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  1. Hi All,

    Winter has arrived, so I am going to do some maintence on my road bike
    and go put it in humidity controlled storage at a boat facility so it
    won't corrode too much in the salty air here. I want to get it all
    ready so when I take it out in the spring I can hit the road right
    away. So I am swapping cables, new chain, etc to get it ship-shape. I
    also plan to change the headset. The original headset died last winter
    during storage, so I replaced it. It is a Pinarello that uses some sort
    of proprietary integrated design. I bit the bullet and bought
    replacements, but they did not seat properly on the fork race, which
    created a gap at the frame-fork union which gathers crud, and is just
    not right. The problem is that the replacement bearings have a very
    square inside edge, while the original ones were somewhat chamfered
    allowing the fork race to seat as it was designed to. Today at an
    industrial machine shop, they had replacements with the proper chamfer,
    but at $90 a piece, I balked. I have a new Campagnolo Centaur hiddenset
    headset lying around, so I am considering trying to use it instead. The
    original headset is 42x30x7 (61806 RS) and has somewhere between an
    interference and slip fit. The Campagnolo one is 41.6-8 or so. Will
    this have too much slop? Will the cup shape of the Campy one be too
    different? This integrated design seems dumb becaue the cartridge
    bearings are supporting a large lateral load which they do not seem
    designed for, so I feel even a sloppy loose-ball Campy one with races
    designed to bear loads in th edirection they do will be better.

    The reason I am hesitant to just try is I am worried about killing the
    original fork race, and being SOL.

    Joseph

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    Hi All,

    Winter has arrived, so I am going to do some maintence on my road bike
    and go put it in humidity controlled storage at a boat facility so it
    won't corrode too much in the salty air here. I want to get it all
    ready so when I take it out in the spring I can hit the road right
    away. So I am swapping cables, new chain, etc to get it ship-shape. I
    also plan to change the headset. The original headset died last winter
    during storage, so I replaced it. It is a Pinarello that uses some sort
    of proprietary integrated design. I bit the bullet and bought
    replacements, but they did not seat properly on the fork race, which
    created a gap at the frame-fork union which gathers crud, and is just
    not right. The problem is that the replacement bearings have a very
    square inside edge, while the original ones were somewhat chamfered
    allowing the fork race to seat as it was designed to. Today at an
    industrial machine shop, they had replacements with the proper chamfer,
    but at $90 a piece, I balked. I have a new Campagnolo Centaur hiddenset
    headset lying around, so I am considering trying to use it instead. The
    original headset is 42x30x7 (61806 RS) and has somewhere between an
    interference and slip fit. The Campagnolo one is 41.6-8 or so. Will
    this have too much slop? Will the cup shape of the Campy one be too
    different? This integrated design seems dumb becaue the cartridge
    bearings are supporting a large lateral load which they do not seem
    designed for, so I feel even a sloppy loose-ball Campy one with races
    designed to bear loads in th edirection they do will be better.

    The reason I am hesitant to just try is I am worried about killing the
    original fork race, and being SOL.

    Joseph

    For anyone in the future who is contemplating this and finds this post
    in a seach, forget it.

    I got antsy, so I pulled my headset and test fit the Campy cups.
    Doesn't work. The cups won't sit squarely, so they wobble around. I've
    just orderd proper bearings from www.simplybearings.co.uk.

    Joseph

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