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  1. Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.
    That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell a
    few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for another
    price cut. Probably not going to make that.

    http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm

    Looking at that page, I note that ANY style or colour of jerseys can be
    combined for the minimum order size. That means...we don't have to
    choose. Long sleeve, short sleeve, and any colour you like.

    The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or
    embroidered?

    Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text
    Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line
    (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged.

    To reiterate, we'll have to pick one or the other for ALL jerseys.

    Price breakdown, typical examples:

    Long sleeve jersey, embroidered: $51+$12+shipping ($6-15 non-rush) =
    ~$73 to you.

    Short sleeve, flocked: $46.50+$3.50+shipping = ~$60 to you.

    That's about the best and worst case scenarios. If we did a custom
    not-just-his-stock-fonts logo, it would be more expensive.

    Order details:

    -site currently says shirts are back-ordered to February, so be prepared
    to wait.
    -Unless the site owner is prepared to ship each shirt individually, I'll
    receive them all and forward them out. They'll probably go parcel post
    unless you prefer to pay for a faster method. I'll charge true shipping
    and repackaging costs, as best as possible. To give you an idea, I
    plugged France into the Canada Post ship-o-matic calculator, and
    slow-boat shipping would be about C$12, plus whatever a decent envelope
    costs me.
    -Unless there is strenuous objection, I intend to demand payment in
    advance, by PayPal. The vendor accepts PayPal, so that seems to simplify
    the agony of moving the money.

    What's next:
    -complain in this thread about the design, reach consensus on
    embroidered versus flocking and design details (font, second line, etc.)
    -I write to site guy and figure out where to send 20% "reservation"
    deposit.

    Then:
    -"design" finalized
    -website tells me when and how to pay deposit
    -you pick jersey style, paypal me deposit
    -I send in deposits plus jersey order

    Finally:
    -you pay me balance
    -I pay jersey guys
    -Jerseys logo-ized, shipped to me
    -I break* and re-ship the order to all of you
    -weeks later, you receive jersey, wear on your next club ride, hilarity
    ensues. Wear to pub, get people buying you drinks. Wear to Lance
    Armstrong Foundation fundraiser, get ass totally kicked.

    *note use of actual shipping terminology, learned from my brother

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  2. Ryan Cousineau said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    Oooh, I'm about to get my first wool jersey. I guess that means I'm
    still young. That also means that I would prefer a flocked LIVEDRUNK
    only because of the comments from people I think know about these things.

    The font should not be comic sans:
    http://bancomicsans.com/home.html

    but aside from that, the excitement of my first wool jersey means that I
    would also be pleased with an embroidered logo.

    What font is on the yellow bracelet?

  3. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.
    That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell a
    few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for another
    price cut. Probably not going to make that.

    http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm

    Looking at that page, I note that ANY style or colour of jerseys can be
    combined for the minimum order size. That means...we don't have to
    choose. Long sleeve, short sleeve, and any colour you like.

    The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or
    embroidered?

    Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text
    Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line
    (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged.

    To reiterate, we'll have to pick one or the other for ALL jerseys.

    Price breakdown, typical examples:

    Long sleeve jersey, embroidered: $51+$12+shipping ($6-15 non-rush) =
    ~$73 to you.

    Short sleeve, flocked: $46.50+$3.50+shipping = ~$60 to you.

    That's about the best and worst case scenarios. If we did a custom
    not-just-his-stock-fonts logo, it would be more expensive.

    Order details:

    -site currently says shirts are back-ordered to February, so be prepared
    to wait.
    -Unless the site owner is prepared to ship each shirt individually, I'll
    receive them all and forward them out. They'll probably go parcel post
    unless you prefer to pay for a faster method. I'll charge true shipping
    and repackaging costs, as best as possible. To give you an idea, I
    plugged France into the Canada Post ship-o-matic calculator, and
    slow-boat shipping would be about C$12, plus whatever a decent envelope
    costs me.
    -Unless there is strenuous objection, I intend to demand payment in
    advance, by PayPal. The vendor accepts PayPal, so that seems to simplify
    the agony of moving the money.

    What's next:
    -complain in this thread about the design, reach consensus on
    embroidered versus flocking and design details (font, second line, etc.)
    -I write to site guy and figure out where to send 20% "reservation"
    deposit.

    Then:
    -"design" finalized
    -website tells me when and how to pay deposit
    -you pick jersey style, paypal me deposit
    -I send in deposits plus jersey order

    Finally:
    -you pay me balance
    -I pay jersey guys
    -Jerseys logo-ized, shipped to me
    -I break* and re-ship the order to all of you
    -weeks later, you receive jersey, wear on your next club ride, hilarity
    ensues. Wear to pub, get people buying you drinks. Wear to Lance
    Armstrong Foundation fundraiser, get ass totally kicked.

    *note use of actual shipping terminology, learned from my brother

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    I am still in. The various design plans indicated are
    fine with me. Is that your email address up there?

    --
    Michael Press

  4. Kyle Legate said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    Quoted message said:

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?Oooh, I'm about to get my first wool jersey. I guess that means I'm


    still young. That also means that I would prefer a flocked LIVEDRUNK
    only because of the comments from people I think know about these things.

    The font should not be comic sans:http://bancomicsans.com/home.html

    but aside from that, the excitement of my first wool jersey means that I
    would also be pleased with an embroidered logo.

    What font is on the yellow bracelet?


    I'm voting for embroidered too, and am definitely in.
    Bill C

  5. Ryan Cousineau said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.

    Dumbass -

    I'd probably get more than one. Those things will make great wedding
    gifts (especially since most wedding gifts suck).

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  6. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.

    I'd probably get more than one. Those things will make great wedding
    gifts (especially since most wedding gifts suck).

    In that case, maybe you could get the second line to read: "Stay
    married"

    --
    Bill Asher

  7. Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.
    That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell
    a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for
    another price cut. Probably not going to make that.

    http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm

    Ok, I want one too. I would prefer the embroidered logo. In that case,
    I think the second line should be:

    -Benjamin Franklin

    because the world needs more completely obscure "in" jokes, it makes a
    great opening line icebreaker after the ride, and for all we know, maybe
    Franklin really did say that at some point in his life.

    You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these
    over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there
    are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all
    over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little
    extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get
    someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in
    person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you
    because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what
    you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except
    there will be two of us, as usual.

    --
    Bill Asher

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    William Asher said:

    Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Okay, here's my thoughts...

    I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey.
    That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell
    a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for
    another price cut. Probably not going to make that.

    http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm

    Ok, I want one too. I would prefer the embroidered logo. In that case,
    I think the second line should be:

    -Benjamin Franklin

    because the world needs more completely obscure "in" jokes, it makes a
    great opening line icebreaker after the ride, and for all we know, maybe
    Franklin really did say that at some point in his life.

    That is a good inside joke. Now if we could find a way to incorporate "apaling"
    and "stocker" it would be complete.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Never take a tenant with a monkey.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael Press said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]> wrote:

    I am still in. The various design plans indicated are
    fine with me. Is that your email address up there?

    Yes. that email address actually works.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  10. Ryan Cousineau said:

    The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or
    embroidered?

    Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text
    Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line
    (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged.

    I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the
    advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for
    embroidery.

  11. Ryan Cousineau said:

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or
    brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so
    that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was
    worth it.

    Gabe

  12. Robert Chung said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or
    embroidered?

    Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text
    Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line
    (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged.

    I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the
    advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for
    embroidery.


    I vote embroidered. Which Asher line: Benjamin Franklin or Stay
    Married? I tend to like rec.bicycles.racing but the utterly obscure
    Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot.

    Gabe

  13. William Asher said:

    You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these
    over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there
    are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all
    over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little
    extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get
    someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in
    person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you
    because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what
    you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except
    there will be two of us, as usual.

    ok, but if you get a jersey then i don't need to get my own because i
    can just conveniently borrow yours for my frequent (NOT...) race days.
    don't we wear the same size? mmmm, stinky girl sweat 🙂

    although i am willing to help with shipping without requiring any kind
    of "jersey tax" if it will save a bunch of money for everyone else. just
    not before christmas.

    heather

  14. h squared said:
    William Asher said:

    You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these
    over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.?

    Mark the packages something like "Used clothing being returned to
    Owner"

    Value "10 Roublez, NCV" NCV=="No Commercial Value"

    Always worked for Davey who fervently believes in Free Trade

    --
    Le vent à Dos
    Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
    X-Shakespeare: "Thou hast damnable iteration,
    and art indeed able to corrupt a saint."
    -- King Henry IV, I.i.2

  15. Gabe Brovedani <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466
    @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

    Quoted message said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or
    brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so
    that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was
    worth it.

    Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin
    because you have a kidney infection.

    --
    Bill Asher

  16. h squared <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    ok, but if you get a jersey then i don't need to get my own because i
    can just conveniently borrow yours for my frequent (NOT...) race days.
    don't we wear the same size? mmmm, stinky girl sweat 🙂

    although i am willing to help with shipping without requiring any kind
    of "jersey tax" if it will save a bunch of money for everyone else.
    just not before christmas.

    Girls sweat?!?!?!? eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    --
    Bill Asher

  17. William Asher said:

    Gabe Brovedani <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466
    @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

    Quoted message said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?

    No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or
    brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so
    that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was
    worth it.

    Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin
    because you have a kidney infection.

    Dumbass -

    Your wife is gullible enough to believe the "this stuff on my penis
    (gonnorhea) is from my kidney infection" line?

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  18. "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Ryan Cousineau said:

    The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or
    embroidered?

    Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text
    Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second
    line (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged.

    I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the
    advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for
    embroidery.

    Embroidery would also remind the Canadians more of a hockey sweater and
    if you want to attract Canadian business there is nothing better than
    making your product look, feel, smell, taste, and sound like a hockey
    sweater.

    --
    Bill Asher

  19. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    William Asher said:

    Gabe Brovedani <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466
    @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Ryan Cousineau wrote:

    > Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?
    >

    No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or
    brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so
    that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was
    worth it.

    Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin
    because you have a kidney infection.

    Dumbass -

    Your wife is gullible enough to believe the "this stuff on my penis
    (gonnorhea) is from my kidney infection" line?

    If she was dumb enough to marry you (or me or whoever), she'll probably
    believe anything. Besides:

    Seen a man standin’ over a dead dog lyin’ by the highway in a ditch
    He’s lookin’ down kinda puzzled pokin’ that dog with a stick
    Got his car door flung open he’s standin’ out on highway 31
    Like if he stood there long enough that dog’d get up and run
    Struck me kinda funny seem kinda funny sir to me
    Still at the end of every hard earned day people find some reason to
    believe

    -da Boss

    --
    Bill Asher

  20. Gabe Brovedani said:

    Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot.

    Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph.

    --
    E. Dronkert

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