Long runs

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Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

Duh, no keep doing the exact same thing. OF COURSE you do something different. Get rid of the crud
and eat real food instead.

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Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during the run,

This reminds me of former neighbors who were serious drunks. They drank this [censored] water called
Golden Anniversary beer because it was $4.99 a case (yes, thats 4 six packs). After attending a few
of their slugfests they called partys, I realized this beer gave me serious diarhea the next day. So
the next time I was offered one I casually said "No thanks, it gives me diarhea", to which one of
them looked at me and non-chalantly said "Oh, it does that to us too..." YIKES! They drank two cases
PER DAY of this stuff, so I'd hate to be in that house in the morning... They apparently figured
this was so cheap it was worth the price it exacted.

Quoted message said:

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

David Pinedo

Yes I think nearly everyone experinaces this. Everyone is slightly different and what upsets
your stomache may be fine in mine. You'll have to experimanet with different foods, drinks,
concentrations etc. You will also end up finding that you may change over time. What works
today may not work next year. This is also true for different temperatures, intensities and
durations. Experiment and find what works for you.

~Matt

Quoted message said:

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

David Pinedo

When I started doing long runs (over 10 mi.) I just drank water and it started making me a little
nauseous, and also I was running out of energy. I switched over to gatorade or powerade during my
long runs, plus eating a powerbar at around mi. 9 or 10, then another powerbar around mi. 17 or 18.
I can't say as I really like powerbars, it's kinda like eating a piece of tar, but I've tried
oatmeal bars and gu, and it gives me the best energy boost to date. I also take along 3 or 4 lemon
drops, or jolly rancher candys for a good sugar boost every few miles, plus it helps pass the time.
I drink about every 3 mi., not much maybe 3 or 4 oz., but I make sure I'm well hydrated before I
start. I don't get sick now, and I have enough energy to finish the run. You'll find that you have
to experiment to see what works best for you, and your body will adjust to longer distances. Still,
not every long run is a good long run, just hang in there.

Kelly Lee

As Matt said, you will have to experiment to see what works for you. Try a little at a time and your
body will tell you what it likes.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

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This is a great forum... A couple of years ago, I posted some questions about plantar fasciitis,
and Ozzie responed with some good things to do to alleviate the pain. I have since gotten
orthotics, and seem to have licked that problem.

Last week, I posted a question about a plantar wart. Kelly Lee recommended Wartner. A few minutes
after reading about it, I headed for the drug store. I couldn't find that exact product, but I did
find something similiar with the Compound W brand. I used it that afternoon, and was able to get
in my weekly long run the following day. The wart feels like it will go away soon. Thanks!

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

David Pinedo

Quoted message said:

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

Have not had this problem, except for a rare emergency in a dark gazebo.

Things to check in you diet:

milk, dairy, wheat, coffee, beans, ...

Kelly Lee said:

When I started doing long runs (over 10 mi.) I just drank water and it started making me a little
nauseous, and also I was running out of energy. I switched over to gatorade or powerade during my
long runs, plus eating a powerbar at around mi. 9 or 10, then another powerbar around mi. 17 or 18.
I can't say as I really like powerbars, it's kinda like eating a piece of tar, but I've tried
oatmeal bars and gu, and it gives me the best energy boost to date. I also take along 3 or 4 lemon
drops, or jolly rancher candys for a good sugar boost every few miles, plus it helps pass the time.
I drink about every 3 mi., not much maybe 3 or 4 oz., but I make sure I'm well hydrated before I
start. I don't get sick now, and I have enough energy to finish the run. You'll find that you have
to experiment to see what works best for you, and your body will adjust to longer distances. Still,
not every long run is a good long run, just hang in there.

Kelly Lee

Gee, do you carry wet naps for a cleanup afterward, a dinner mint? Try something called "training"
instead. A few glasses of Gatorade and eat right. Whimps...

David:

I have always had digestive issues with long runs. On many of them I have not felt well afterwards.
Does your situation change with the weather? I have found that I feel a whole lot better (sometimes
even quite hungry) on a long run during cool weather.

Also, on the long run, it seems to me that it is important not to take on too much fuel at a time,
though 2 clif shots, adequately spaced, hardly seems like too much.

I hope this isn't to biological, but it might help to find a public restroom or porta-john on your
long run, maybe even early in the run. It has helped with me.

Are you training for something? Marathon?

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Quoted message said:

This is a great forum... A couple of years ago, I posted some questions about plantar fasciitis,
and Ozzie responed with some good things to do to alleviate the pain. I have since gotten
orthotics, and seem to have licked that problem.

Last week, I posted a question about a plantar wart. Kelly Lee recommended Wartner. A few minutes
after reading about it, I headed for the drug store. I couldn't find that exact product, but I did
find something similiar with the Compound W brand. I used it that afternoon, and was able to get
in my weekly long run the following day. The wart feels like it will go away soon. Thanks!

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

David Pinedo

David, As others have said this is pretty common among endurance athletes. If you are for ideas you
might try looking at Ultra Cycling and Long Triathlon websites as well as running. Those events span
many hours so the nutrition and hydration are heavily discussed issues there.

Steve W.

Quoted message said:

Now my next problem: as my runs are getting longer, I'm finding my stomach is getting upset during
and after my long run. So far, I have been drinking only water, and eating a couple of packets of
Cliff Shot during my run. The first one usually goes down OK. The second one is difficult to
stomach. After the run, I don't feel like eating for quite a while, and spend quite a bit of time
in the bathroom.

Have others experienced something like this? Should I change what I'm drinking and eating during
the run, or is it only a matter of conditioning?

David Pinedo

Brian Jones <[email hidden]> wrote:
: David:

: Are you training for something? Marathon?

I'm training for the Tucson Marathon on December 7. I ran the half last year, and had a blast. It
was too easy, so I'm looking for a bigger challenge. :-)

I'm trying to increase my long run from about 2.5 hours to 3.5 hours by November 22. That means I
have 5 longs runs to get to 3.5 hours. If I add 15 minutes per run (average of less than 10% per
week) I should be able to get there.

My schedule is a little tighter than I would like it. The tighter schedule means I'm more likely to
get injured or to get an upset stomach during my long runs. :-(

I'm already committed: I already purchased airline tickets. I'm holding off on signing up for the
race until just before the next price increase (November 27). Does anyone know if they limit the
number of runners for the Tucson Marathon?

David Pinedo