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  1. Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?

    Joseph

  2. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?


    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

  3. bill said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?


    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    Joseph

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    Joseph

    Not even canning supplies? Where do you live? Easter Island?

    Jeff

  5. Quoted message said:
    bill said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?


    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    Also sold as "canning wax", have you tried that?


  6. Quoted message said:

    bill wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Joseph said:

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=paraffin+refill+-bath+-spa&btnG=Search

    or similar.

    Should be readily mail-order-able.

    Wax on....

  7. Quoted message said:

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains?

    Back when I XC skied, I used department store canning paraffin for
    glide wax. AFAICT, it's the same stuff - but, like Phil Wood Tenacious
    Oil, it's sold in cuter containers for a higher price.

    Quoted message said:

    Would some other additive added during the melt process help matters?

    Yes. Until I started adding about 5% motor oil (or sometimes, gear
    oil) to my wax, it got sqeaky immediately after getting rained on. The
    oil fixed that.

    Quoted message said:

    What about candle wax?

    I haven't tried it, but what I've read hasn't been encouraging. Why go
    with something that's more costly and not as well-reputed?

    Quoted message said:

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?

    Properly done wax/oil mix will take care of the clean part. I don't do
    squeaky.

    - Frank Krygowski

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bill wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Joseph said:

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=paraffin+refill+-bath+-spa&btnG=Search

    or similar.

    Should be readily mail-order-able.

    Wax on....

    Try this instead. Better, cheaper:

    http://tinyurl.com/y76k4z

  9. Quoted message said:

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    I've been using parrafin wax with a shot of motor oil for years w/o
    problem. This wax is frequently sold as 'canning wax'. Candle wax
    constains stearic acid that helps the candles stay firm during hot
    weather and also release cleanly from a mold. Candle wax will not
    lube the chain properly and will flake off.

    Wax is a miserable lubricant, if a lubricant at all, but it does keep
    the chain from squeeking and wearing out...as long as it doesn't get
    wet.

  10. Ozark Bicycle said:
    Quoted message said:
    bill said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Hi All,
    >
    > My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    > old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    > are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    > and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    > old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    > thinking about lubing them with hot wax.
    >
    > The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    > suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    > during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?
    >
    > How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?
    >
    Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    Also sold as "canning wax", have you tried that?

    I haven't done an exhaustive search yet. The hardware store didn't have
    any, and to complicate matters here in Norway "parafin" means kerosene.

    I'll give canning wax a shot, but in general the selection of various
    things at supermarkets here is quite a bit more limited than in the US.
    I will be pleasantly surprised if the supermarket has any. Where else
    would someone get paraffin?

    Joseph

  11. Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:
    Quoted message said:

    bill wrote:
    > [email hidden] wrote:
    > > Hi All,
    > >
    > > My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    > > old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    > > are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    > > and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    > > old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    > > thinking about lubing them with hot wax.
    > >
    > > The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    > > suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    > > during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?
    > >
    > > How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?
    > >
    > Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.

    Not around here. Nobody has it.

    Also sold as "canning wax", have you tried that?

    I haven't done an exhaustive search yet. The hardware store didn't have
    any, and to complicate matters here in Norway "parafin" means kerosene.

    I'll give canning wax a shot, but in general the selection of various
    things at supermarkets here is quite a bit more limited than in the US.

    Any place that sells home canning supplies ("Mason" jars, etc.) will
    likely have canning wax (under whatever name may be used in your
    locale).

    Quoted message said:

    I will be pleasantly surprised if the supermarket has any. Where else
    would someone get paraffin?

  12. Quoted message said:

    Back when I XC skied, I used department store canning paraffin for
    glide wax. AFAICT, it's the same stuff - but, like Phil Wood Tenacious
    Oil, it's sold in cuter containers for a higher price.


    Maybe it was the same stuff back then, and *maybe* the simplest,
    cheapest bulk ski pre wax is the same nowadays -- which you can get
    for about $20/lb. But most ski wax that you'll ski on is not the same
    as canning stuff. It's typically flourinated and available in
    different hardnesses.

    --
    JT
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  13. Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?

    White Lightning is simpler than a DIY mix and works OK.

    I find that when I use oil and wipe the chain religiously (not in a
    confessional, silly) afterwards, the drivetrain stays clean as well.

    With new chains, I just wipe the outside dry with mineral spirits, and
    they're good for near a thousand miles, as the factory goop stays put
    on the inside better than any concoction I can whip up.

  14. Ozark Bicycle said:
    Quoted message said:
    Ozark Bicycle said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > bill wrote:
    > > [email hidden] wrote:
    > > > Hi All,
    > > >
    > > > My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    > > > old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    > > > are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    > > > and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    > > > old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    > > > thinking about lubing them with hot wax.
    > > >
    > > > The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    > > > suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    > > > during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?
    > > >
    > > > How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?
    > > >
    > > Parafin is easy to obtain from the grocery store, hardware store etc.
    >
    > Not around here. Nobody has it.
    >
    >

    Also sold as "canning wax", have you tried that?

    I haven't done an exhaustive search yet. The hardware store didn't have
    any, and to complicate matters here in Norway "parafin" means kerosene.

    I'll give canning wax a shot, but in general the selection of various
    things at supermarkets here is quite a bit more limited than in the US.

    Any place that sells home canning supplies ("Mason" jars, etc.) will
    likely have canning wax (under whatever name may be used in your
    locale).

    The supermarket didn't have any, and the woman there said that nobody
    uses wax for that anymore. But they did have a good selection of
    candles and some of the more expensive ones are pure paraffin wax, so
    I'm in business!

    Joseph

  15. landotter said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,

    My eBay fever has broken, and I have now a whole bunch of nice NOS and
    old used stuff to give my vintage rides the love they deserve. These
    are now exclusively good weather bikes, and I want to keep them nice
    and shiny. In particular I want the chains and freewheels (nice
    old-school gold finishes!) to stay super clean. To that end I have been
    thinking about lubing them with hot wax.

    The only wax I have easy access to is ski glider of various grades. How
    suitable would these be for chains? Would some other additive added
    during the melt process help matters? What about candle wax?

    How best to keep my drivetrain squeaky clean (booo...)?

    White Lightning is simpler than a DIY mix and works OK.

    No place to get it. I'd like to use that on my regular bike.

    Quoted message said:

    I find that when I use oil and wipe the chain religiously (not in a
    confessional, silly) afterwards, the drivetrain stays clean as well.

    With new chains, I just wipe the outside dry with mineral spirits, and
    they're good for near a thousand miles, as the factory goop stays put
    on the inside better than any concoction I can whip up.

    I've tried that on my regular bike, but it gets grimey right away. Not
    bad enugh to care on my regular bike, but for these "show" bikes I want
    things super clean.

    I think it is a combination of studded tires on asphalt, and pulverized
    gravel that makes things so grimey around here.

    Joseph

  16. How bout toilet bowl rings- the wax donut that they put under the toilet
    when seating it... Hardware store item... Pat

  17. patrick mitchel said:

    How bout toilet bowl rings- the wax donut that they put under the toilet
    when seating it... Hardware store item... Pat

    I don't know ... that's very sticky stuff, sort of like XC skiing
    klister. I imagine it would get very filthy very quickly!

    - Frank Krygowski

  18. Quoted message said:
    patrick mitchel said:

    How bout toilet bowl rings- the wax donut that they put under the toilet
    when seating it... Hardware store item... Pat

    I don't know ... that's very sticky stuff, sort of like XC skiing
    klister. I imagine it would get very filthy very quickly!

    - Frank Krygowski

    The hardware store is closed now, so I couldn't run down there to get
    one. They won't have one anyway, so I just pulled my toilet to have a
    look. Too sticky is right!

    Joseph

  19. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    patrick mitchel said:

    How bout toilet bowl rings- the wax donut that they put under the toilet
    when seating it... Hardware store item... Pat

    I don't know ... that's very sticky stuff, sort of like XC skiing
    klister. I imagine it would get very filthy very quickly!

    - Frank Krygowski

    The hardware store is closed now, so I couldn't run down there to get
    one. They won't have one anyway, so I just pulled my toilet to have a
    look. Too sticky is right!

    Wow. I admire your dedication!

    - Frank Krygowski

  20. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    patrick mitchel wrote:
    > How bout toilet bowl rings- the wax donut that they put under the toilet
    > when seating it... Hardware store item... Pat

    I don't know ... that's very sticky stuff, sort of like XC skiing
    klister. I imagine it would get very filthy very quickly!

    - Frank Krygowski

    The hardware store is closed now, so I couldn't run down there to get
    one. They won't have one anyway, so I just pulled my toilet to have a
    look. Too sticky is right!

    Wow. I admire your dedication!

    I'm laying groundwork as insurance for a future insanity plea!

    I was of course just kidding, but I recall from back in the days when I
    did monkey with toilet donuts that they were rather sticky and had a
    brownish color. Not the white I expected of paraffin.

    Joseph

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