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  1. I've been searching around for 13 gauge spokes and having no luck. Does
    anyone know where I might be able to find some? So far I've only been
    able to find 12 and 14 gauge in the size I need (185mm). Any help would
    be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Andrew

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  2. Unfortunatly I don't know where you can get them, but I'm curious as to
    why you would want them over 12 or 14? What rim or hub are you using
    that uses that size?

    Edit: is there even such a thing as a rim or hub that would need 13
    gauge spokes?

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  3. I remember hearing that the KH Moment hub used 13, but don't quote me on
    that. =p

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  4. What is the difference between 12, 13, and 14?

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  5. The moment hub is advertised as using 13 gauge spokes. I would say not
    to worry about trying to find 13 gauge and go for the 14. They are
    easier to find and probably more abundant.

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  6. Jerrick said:

    I remember hearing that the KH Moment hub used 13, but don't quote me on
    that. =p

    really?

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  7. blackbike said:

    really?

    Yes. Really. This is straight from UDC. Look for the bold and
    highlighted words:p

    # Rim: New Kris Holm 19” Trials rim, 36 hole, 47mm wide, with
    eyelets for extra strength.
    # Weight: 5.7 kg (12 lbs)
    # Minimun pedal-saddle distance: 65 cm (26 inches)
    # Color: dark blue with high-durability, glossy clearcoat, laser-etched
    logo
    # Frame:7005 T6 Aluminium frame
    # Hub: KH Moment ISIS hub
    # Cranks: KH Moment 7075 Aluminum cranks(137mm) (125mm also available)
    # Pedals: Snafu Concave (black)
    # Saddle: Kris Holm Fusion Street gel saddle with front lift handle and
    removable cover.
    # Seatpost: Alloy 27.2 x 300mm bolt-on style
    # Tire: 19 x 2.50 Maxxis Creepy Crawler trials, black with schraeder
    valve, 20-inch inner tube and rim tape
    # *Spokes: New Black stainless steel 13G with nipple eyelets to make a
    stronger wheel*
    # Seatpost clamp: New double-bolted, aluminium.

    EDIT:

    This is from the KH website:

    Kris Holm Trials/Street 20" Click to enlarge
    Carefully crafted to withstand abuse while remaining lightweight, the
    KH20 trials and street unicycle is built specifically for trials and
    street riding. Also a great kids mountain unicycle.

    Select Features:

    * 7005 T6 Aluminum frame
    * KH Moment ISIS hub,
    * KH Moment 7075 Aluminum cranks (137 mm) (125mm also available)
    * Fusion Street gel saddle
    * 19” x 47 mm x 36 hole, double wall KH rim with eyelets
    * *High strength 13 gauge spokes (172 mm length)*
    * Weight: 5.65 kg

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  8. is it possible to use any othe gauge in the hub?

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  9. Speaking in technical terms, I guess it is. A thicker gauge is
    typically stronger than a thinner gauge. Using a thicker gauge lets
    you use less spokes because of the added strength. Less spokes means
    less weight. I think that was the intention a long time ago. Bicycle
    rims and hubs started using less spokes as technology progressed.

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  10. but any gauge will fit through the holes in the hub?

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  11. p1choco said:


    Speaking in technical terms, I guess it is. A thicker gauge is
    typically stronger than a thinner gauge.

    No. A thicker spoke might give you a stronger spoke in a single
    static test, it doesn't necesarily give you a stronger wheel.
    Further, a thicker spoke is reasonably likely to be weaker under
    typical fatigue loading in a wheel.

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  12. p1choco said:

    Using a thicker gauge lets you use less spokes because of the added
    strength. Less spokes means less weight.

    Except thicker spokes weigh more?

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  13. Ian Smith said:
    p1choco said:


    Speaking in technical terms, I guess it is. A thicker gauge is
    typically stronger than a thinner gauge.

    No. A thicker spoke might give you a stronger spoke in a single
    static test, it doesn't necesarily give you a stronger wheel.
    Further, a thicker spoke is reasonably likely to be weaker under
    typical fatigue loading in a wheel.

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    I never said a thicker spoke will make your wheel stronger, but you
    said yourself, "A thicker spoke might give you a stronger spoke in a
    single static test...". And pretty much that is all I said. Further
    more, how and why is a thicker spoke likely to be weaker under typical
    fatigue loading in a wheel?

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  14. kington99 said:

    Except thicker spokes weigh more?

    That may be the case but you are dealing with less of them. If you
    were to compare identical rims and hubs laced with a) 48 12g spokes and
    b) 36 14g spokes, I'm assuming that the later will come in weighing a
    tiny bit less or maybe the weight might even out.

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  15. p1choco said:

    That may be the case but you are dealing with less of them. If you were
    to compare identical rims and hubs laced with a) 48 12g spokes and b)
    36 14g spokes, I'm assuming that the later will come in weighing a tiny
    bit less or maybe the weight might even out.

    yes, but were all talking about 36 hole wheels correct?

    not many unis use 48 holes...

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