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  1. After yet another driver making a point of passing dangerously close
    when I chose not to use a cycle lane I finally got round to drafting a
    letter to East Dunbartonshire Council regarding one of their cycle
    farcilities. With his permission I stole some of Bob Downie's letter
    to Glasgow City Council regarding the new cycle lanes in Kilmarnock
    Road. For a picture of the farcility in question See
    www.flickr.com/photos/24192247@N00/308662833/

    Anyway my first draft is below. Any suggestions as improvement welcome
    Iain

    Corporate Director (Environment)
    East Dunbartonshire Council
    Tom Johnston House
    Civic Way
    Kirkintilloch
    G66 4TJ

    Dear Sir
    Re: Cycle Lane on Milngavie Road
    I am writing to you about the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road
    , Bearsden,
    It is a rule of the road for car drivers that you give parked vehicles
    a reasonable margin when passing, so that in the event of a vehicle
    occupant unexpectedly opening an offside door, no collision will occur.
    Indeed, one may fail a driving test for not doing so. A similar
    principle applies to cycles. It is accepted by those working in cycle
    safety that cyclists should give a similar wide berth to parked
    vehicles for identical reasons. The government approved text
    "Cyclecraft"* (page66) suggests 1.5m/5ft as a minimum clearance. In the
    case of cyclists the need to maintain a wide berth is even more
    pressing than for cars, as the risks of personal injury are higher than
    to a car driver.
    . In view of the simple necessity to maintain a margin, I am
    puzzled as to how I am to safely use the northbound cycle lane on
    Milngavie Road. The lane varies between 1m and 1.2 m in width. Between
    Manse Road and Mosshead Road the lane is placed immediately to the
    right of parked vehicles with little or no gap. In fact the open door
    of a car parked just south of Mosshead Road takes up the full width of
    the adjacent cycle lane which is 1m in width at that point.
    (Photograph enclosed) This means there is no point in the lane being
    there as it is not safe to use it. This, the narrowest section of the
    cycle lane, also follows a downhill section meaning cycling speeds are
    higher and the consequences of a crash caused by an opening door are
    more likely to be serious. Aside from any injury caused by the impact
    with the open door cyclists involved in these types of collisions are
    frequently thrown into the path of following traffic with fatal
    consequences.

    The cycle lane has the side effect of giving some drivers the
    perception that a cyclist using the main traffic lane (to get enough
    clearance from parked cars) should not be there. This sometimes results
    in drivers behaving aggressively towards the cyclist. In other words
    the situation for cyclists is worse than if the lane was not there at
    all.

    To conclude, I would be grateful if you would provide responses to the
    following questions.
    What design guides or standards did you employ when designing the cycle
    routes? The route was clearly not designed using the Scottish
    Executive's guidance on cycle facility design
    (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library2/cbd/cbd-00.asp) which stipulates a
    minimum lane width of 1.5m (Table 5.1) and an absolute minimum of 0.5
    metres between the outside of the parking bay and the inside of the
    cycle lane (Figure 5.4 and Table 5.3).
    How do you feel that the finished cycle lanes enhance the safety of the
    cyclists that use them? In particular I would be grateful if you could
    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to
    the implementation of these lanes.·
    Given the discrepancies between safe riding, for example as described
    in Cyclecraft, and the present layout of the lanes in question, how can
    the lanes now be improved?
    Yours sincerely,

    *Cyclecraft (The definitive guide to skilled cycling technique),

  2. Quoted message said:

    After yet another driver making a point of passing dangerously close
    when I chose not to use a cycle lane I finally got round to drafting a
    letter to East Dunbartonshire Council regarding one of their cycle
    farcilities. With his permission I stole some of Bob Downie's letter
    to Glasgow City Council regarding the new cycle lanes in Kilmarnock
    Road. For a picture of the farcility in question See
    www.flickr.com/photos/24192247@N00/308662833/

    Anyway my first draft is below. Any suggestions as improvement welcome
    Iain

    Corporate Director (Environment)
    East Dunbartonshire Council
    Tom Johnston House
    Civic Way
    Kirkintilloch
    G66 4TJ

    Dear Sir
    Re: Cycle Lane on Milngavie Road
    I am writing to you about the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road
    , Bearsden,
    It is a rule of the road for car drivers that you give parked vehicles
    a reasonable margin when passing, so that in the event of a vehicle
    occupant unexpectedly opening an offside door, no collision will occur.
    Indeed, one may fail a driving test for not doing so. A similar
    principle applies to cycles. It is accepted by those working in cycle
    safety that cyclists should give a similar wide berth to parked
    vehicles for identical reasons. The government approved text
    "Cyclecraft"* (page66) suggests 1.5m/5ft as a minimum clearance. In the
    case of cyclists the need to maintain a wide berth is even more
    pressing than for cars, as the risks of personal injury are higher than
    to a car driver.
    . In view of the simple necessity to maintain a margin, I am
    puzzled as to how I am to safely use the northbound cycle lane on
    Milngavie Road. The lane varies between 1m and 1.2 m in width. Between
    Manse Road and Mosshead Road the lane is placed immediately to the
    right of parked vehicles with little or no gap. In fact the open door
    of a car parked just south of Mosshead Road takes up the full width of
    the adjacent cycle lane which is 1m in width at that point.
    (Photograph enclosed) This means there is no point in the lane being
    there as it is not safe to use it. This, the narrowest section of the
    cycle lane, also follows a downhill section meaning cycling speeds are
    higher and the consequences of a crash caused by an opening door are
    more likely to be serious. Aside from any injury caused by the impact
    with the open door cyclists involved in these types of collisions are
    frequently thrown into the path of following traffic with fatal
    consequences.

    The cycle lane has the side effect of giving some drivers the
    perception that a cyclist using the main traffic lane (to get enough
    clearance from parked cars) should not be there. This sometimes results
    in drivers behaving aggressively towards the cyclist. In other words
    the situation for cyclists is worse than if the lane was not there at
    all.

    To conclude, I would be grateful if you would provide responses to the
    following questions.
    What design guides or standards did you employ when designing the cycle
    routes? The route was clearly not designed using the Scottish
    Executive's guidance on cycle facility design
    (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library2/cbd/cbd-00.asp) which stipulates a
    minimum lane width of 1.5m (Table 5.1) and an absolute minimum of 0.5
    metres between the outside of the parking bay and the inside of the
    cycle lane (Figure 5.4 and Table 5.3).
    How do you feel that the finished cycle lanes enhance the safety of the
    cyclists that use them? In particular I would be grateful if you could
    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to
    the implementation of these lanes.·
    Given the discrepancies between safe riding, for example as described
    in Cyclecraft, and the present layout of the lanes in question, how can
    the lanes now be improved?
    Yours sincerely,

    *Cyclecraft (The definitive guide to skilled cycling technique),

    That is a quality letter, especially cos there's an identical cycle
    lane here:

    http://tinyurl.com/ybbkfe

    Cycle in the lane but away from the doors and you get bibbed by [censored],
    one of whom swerved toward me when he eventually undertook.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>
    [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to


    ^
    out

  4. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>
    [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to


    ^
    out

    I think that the OPs letter is beautifully crafted.

    Perhaps he will consider one to the relevant police authorities
    enquiring about the errant drivers that are mentioned. What to
    enquire about them I shall leave to you since you seem to
    be much better at chosing such material than I am.

    OH dear! - rant has developed below:-

    I have stopped cycling on the road due to the discomfort
    caused by the threats that are offered. I know that the numbers
    say that it is pretty safe however I simply find being put
    in needlessly dangerous positions every few minutes (London
    busses mostly on my most recent routes) to be beyond
    my tolerance.

    On the bright side I can not previously recall such public debate
    regarding road safety as is presently the case regarding cycling
    and there seems to be to be some hope that the practise driving
    5 tons of bus containing nearly 100 passengers at a defeceless
    cyclist or pedestrian in the name of personal
    gratification will become an unacceptable and effectively criminal
    practise.

    It seems to me that even a Daily Mail style rant telling them to
    get their helmets on is a good thing since perhaps a critical
    mass of people are now able to see such statements for
    what they truely are - A coldly calculated attack on a minority
    group designed to create bonding and good cheer among the
    baying crowd.

    I have recently formed the idea that the Criminal Justice
    System is Institutionally Motorist, a view that appears to have been
    supported by the recent Cyclist Causing Obstruction case and
    that this is the reason that motorised vehicle drivers are
    at present able to threaten a significant proportion
    of the population with death on such regular basis.

    Compare the difference in reaction of the Police between you
    complaining that a bus driver had just whizzed by 6 inches
    off your handlebar and that you felt that this had been threatning
    and their reaction to information that there was a jolly nice
    man in the high street firing a shotgun in the air in apparent
    celebration. Vehicles are not seen as the instruments of death
    and injury that they are and their drivers are seen as intrinsically
    marvellous people.

  5. Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>
    [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to


    ^
    out

    I think that the OPs letter is beautifully crafted.

    Perhaps he will consider one to the relevant police authorities
    enquiring about the errant drivers that are mentioned. What to
    enquire about them I shall leave to you since you seem to
    be much better at chosing such material than I am.

    OH dear! - rant has developed below:-

    I have stopped cycling on the road due to the discomfort
    caused by the threats that are offered. I know that the numbers
    say that it is pretty safe however I simply find being put
    in needlessly dangerous positions every few minutes (London
    busses mostly on my most recent routes) to be beyond
    my tolerance.

    On the bright side I can not previously recall such public debate
    regarding road safety as is presently the case regarding cycling
    and there seems to be to be some hope that the practise driving
    5 tons of bus containing nearly 100 passengers at a defeceless
    cyclist or pedestrian in the name of personal
    gratification will become an unacceptable and effectively criminal
    practise.

    It seems to me that even a Daily Mail style rant telling them to
    get their helmets on is a good thing since perhaps a critical
    mass of people are now able to see such statements for
    what they truely are - A coldly calculated attack on a minority
    group designed to create bonding and good cheer among the
    baying crowd.

    I have recently formed the idea that the Criminal Justice
    System is Institutionally Motorist, a view that appears to have been
    supported by the recent Cyclist Causing Obstruction case and
    that this is the reason that motorised vehicle drivers are
    at present able to threaten a significant proportion
    of the population with death on such regular basis.

    Compare the difference in reaction of the Police between you
    complaining that a bus driver had just whizzed by 6 inches
    off your handlebar and that you felt that this had been threatning
    and their reaction to information that there was a jolly nice
    man in the high street firing a shotgun in the air in apparent
    celebration. Vehicles are not seen as the instruments of death
    and injury that they are and their drivers are seen as intrinsically
    marvellous people.

    Quality post.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>
    [email hidden] <[email hidden]> wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    provide a copy of the official Safety Audit that was carried prior to


    ^
    out

    I think that the OPs letter is beautifully crafted.


    OP said "Any suggestions as improvement welcome". I pointed out he'd
    dropped a word. I couldn't find fault with the rest.

  7. Rob Morley said the following on 29/11/2006 12:19:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think that the OPs letter is beautifully crafted.

    Quoted message said:

    OP said "Any suggestions as improvement welcome". I pointed out he'd
    dropped a word. I couldn't find fault with the rest.

    I don't think Bod43 was criticising your post. I just read it as he
    happened to choose your post to follow up on.

    I might be wrong, of course!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  8. On 28 Nov 2006 09:47:02 -0800 someone who may be
    "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    The government approved text "Cyclecraft"*

    Is it? If so which department approved it?

    Quoted message said:

    (page66) suggests 1.5m/5ft as a minimum clearance.

    I wonder if the page numbers are the same in every edition. It might
    be better to say something like, "(page 66 in my edition dated
    2006)".

    However, it is a really good letter.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  9. In article <[email hidden]>

    Paul Boyd usenet.dont.work@plusnet said:

    Rob Morley said the following on 29/11/2006 12:19:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think that the OPs letter is beautifully crafted.

    Quoted message said:

    OP said "Any suggestions as improvement welcome". I pointed out he'd
    dropped a word. I couldn't find fault with the rest.

    I don't think Bod43 was criticising your post. I just read it as he
    happened to choose your post to follow up on.


    It struck me as a strange choice for a FU, as it contained only one line
    of the OP. Then I looked at his headers and all became clear. :-)

  10. David Hansen said:

    On 28 Nov 2006 09:47:02 -0800 someone who may be
    "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    The government approved text "Cyclecraft"*

    Is it? If so which department approved it?

    Quoted message said:

    (page66) suggests 1.5m/5ft as a minimum clearance.

    I wonder if the page numbers are the same in every edition. It might
    be better to say something like, "(page 66 in my edition dated
    2006)".

    However, it is a really good letter.

    I am going to use the suggestions by David and Robert.
    I will remove - "The government approved text
    "Cyclecraft"* (page66)"

    and replace with - " "Cyclecraft" (a manual of skilled cycling
    techniques for adults)."

    and of course add "out" where I missed it.

    Also change references in the last paragraph from "lanes" to "lane".

    Hopefully the photo showing an open door blocking the entire cycle
    lane and the fact the lane falls woefully short of the Scottish design
    standards will get the message over.
    Iain

  11. Rob Morley said the following on 29/11/2006 14:18:

    Quoted message said:

    It struck me as a strange choice for a FU, as it contained only one line
    of the OP. Then I looked at his headers and all became clear. :-)

    Ah - yes, I see what you mean. It's that flippin' GG again, and I don't
    mean horses!

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  12. [email hidden] said the following on 29/11/2006 14:27:

    Quoted message said:

    Hopefully the photo showing an open door blocking the entire cycle
    lane

    That picture should make the problem clear to even the thickest local
    councillor. I suspect though that reality may be different...

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  13. Quoted message said:

    I am going to use the suggestions by David and Robert.
    I will remove - "The government approved text
    "Cyclecraft"* (page66)"

    and replace with - " "Cyclecraft" (a manual of skilled cycling
    techniques for adults)."

    I don't know if it's been approved by any particular department, but
    it's published by The Stationery Office, which surely implies some
    kind of sanction -

    The RoSPA-approved manual "Cyclecraft" (The Stationery Office,
    ISBN 0 11 702051 6)

    Or alternatively you could go to the source (or what appears to be the
    source, as per some Googling - IANAE) and reference the DOT/IHT/CTC
    joint report "Cycle-friendly Infrastructure: Guidelines for Planning
    and Design" which states 1.5m minimum, 2m recommended.

    -dan

    --
    http://www.coruskate.net/

  14. Paul Boyd wrote on 29/11/2006 15:10 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    That picture should make the problem clear to even the thickest local
    councillor.

    And they will not doubt work out where all the parked car doors would be
    and put in cyclists dismount signs for each of them ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  15. In article <[email hidden]>

    Tony Raven said:

    Paul Boyd wrote on 29/11/2006 15:10 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    That picture should make the problem clear to even the thickest local
    councillor.

    And they will not doubt work out where all the parked car doors would be
    and put in cyclists dismount signs for each of them ;-)


    When I see one of those signs I usually respond with something like "of
    course they do, otherwise they wouldn't all fit in the pub", but if the
    signs were only a few yards apart that could become rather tiresome
    (what's that? ... it already is? ...) ;^>

  16. Tony Raven said the following on 29/11/2006 16:07:

    Quoted message said:

    And they will not doubt work out where all the parked car doors would be
    and put in cyclists dismount signs for each of them ;-)

    For gawd's sake don't let the relevant local council see that suggestion :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  17. Daniel Barlow said:


    The RoSPA-approved manual "Cyclecraft" (The Stationery Office,
    ISBN 0 11 702051 6)

    Yup, can use that.

    Quoted message said:

    Or alternatively you could go to the source (or what appears to be the
    source, as per some Googling - IANAE) and reference the DOT/IHT/CTC
    joint report "Cycle-friendly Infrastructure: Guidelines for Planning
    and Design" which states 1.5m minimum, 2m recommended.

    I have quoted the Scottish Design standards which are pretty similiar.
    2m recommended. 1.5m minimum. 1.2m for a few special cases like the
    last few yards prior to advance stop lines at lights.

    Iain

  18. [email hidden] wrote:

    Final version e-mailed with photo as attachment. I'll update UK rec
    Cycling with any response I get.

    The Chief Executive
    East Dunbartonshire Council

    Re: Cycle Lane on Milngavie Road

    I am writing to you about the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road ,
    Bearsden,

    It is a rule of the road for car drivers that you give parked vehicles
    a reasonable margin when passing, so that in the event of a vehicle
    occupant unexpectedly opening an offside door, no collision will occur.
    Indeed, one may fail a driving test for not doing so. A similar
    principle applies to cycles. It is accepted by those working in cycle
    safety that cyclists should give a similar wide berth to parked
    vehicles for identical reasons. "Cyclecraft"* suggests 1.5m/5ft as a
    minimum clearance. In the case of cyclists the need to maintain a wide
    berth is even more pressing than for cars, as the risks of personal
    injury are higher than to a car driver.

    In view of the simple necessity to maintain a margin, I am puzzled as
    to how I am to safely use the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road.
    The lane varies between 1m and 1.2 m in width. Between Manse Road and
    Mosshead Road the lane is placed immediately to the right of parked
    vehicles with little or no gap. In fact the open door of a car parked
    just south of Mosshead Road takes up the full width of the adjacent
    cycle lane which is 1m in width at that point. (Photograph attached)
    This means there is no point in the lane being there as it is not safe
    to use it. This, the narrowest section of the cycle lane, also follows
    a downhill section meaning cycling speeds are higher and the
    consequences of a crash caused by an opening door are more likely to be
    serious. Aside from any injury caused by the impact with the open door
    cyclists involved in this type of collision are frequently thrown into
    the path of following traffic with fatal consequences.

    The cycle lane has the side effect of giving some drivers the
    perception that a cyclist using the main traffic lane (to get enough
    clearance from parked cars) should not be there. This sometimes results
    in drivers behaving aggressively towards the cyclist. In other words
    the situation for cyclists is worse than if the lane was not there at
    all.

    To conclude, I would be grateful if you would provide responses to the
    following questions.

    What design guides or standards were employed when designing the cycle
    route? The route was clearly not designed using the Scottish
    Executive's guidance on cycle facility design
    (_http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library2/cbd/cbd-00.asp_) which stipulates
    a minimum lane width of 1.5m (Table 5.1) and an absolute minimum of 0.5
    m between the outside of the parking bay and the inside of the cycle
    lane (Figure 5.4 and Table 5.3).

    Do you feel that the finished cycle lane enhances the safety of the
    cyclists that use it? In particular I would be grateful if you could
    provide a copy of any official Safety Audit that was carried out prior
    to the implementation of this lane.

    Given the discrepancies between safe riding, for example as described
    in Cyclecraft, and the present layout of the lane in question, how can
    the lane now be improved?

    Yours sincerely,

    Iain Cullen

    * The RoSPA-approved manual "Cyclecraft" (The Stationery Office,
    ISBN 0 11 702051 6) (a manual of skilled cycling techniques for
    adults).

  19. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    Final version e-mailed with photo as attachment. I'll update UK rec
    Cycling with any response I get.


    Rest of letter snipped.

    Excellent letter. I remember when they put that in. I emigrated south
    shortly afterwards. although must confess that it wasn't the cycle lane
    that drove me to do so.

    IARC, the road at that point is extremely wide, and there is plenty of
    room to leave a decent margin between cycle and door.

    Peter.

  20. In message <[email hidden]>,
    "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    [email hidden] wrote:

    Final version e-mailed with photo as attachment. I'll update UK rec
    Cycling with any response I get.

    The Chief Executive
    East Dunbartonshire Council

    Re: Cycle Lane on Milngavie Road

    I am writing to you about the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road ,
    Bearsden,

    It is a rule of the road for car drivers that you give parked vehicles
    a reasonable margin when passing, so that in the event of a vehicle
    occupant unexpectedly opening an offside door, no collision will occur.
    Indeed, one may fail a driving test for not doing so. A similar
    principle applies to cycles. It is accepted by those working in cycle
    safety that cyclists should give a similar wide berth to parked
    vehicles for identical reasons. "Cyclecraft"* suggests 1.5m/5ft as a
    minimum clearance. In the case of cyclists the need to maintain a wide
    berth is even more pressing than for cars, as the risks of personal
    injury are higher than to a car driver.

    In view of the simple necessity to maintain a margin, I am puzzled as
    to how I am to safely use the northbound cycle lane on Milngavie Road.
    The lane varies between 1m and 1.2 m in width. Between Manse Road and
    Mosshead Road the lane is placed immediately to the right of parked
    vehicles with little or no gap. In fact the open door of a car parked
    just south of Mosshead Road takes up the full width of the adjacent
    cycle lane which is 1m in width at that point. (Photograph attached)
    This means there is no point in the lane being there as it is not safe
    to use it. This, the narrowest section of the cycle lane, also follows
    a downhill section meaning cycling speeds are higher and the
    consequences of a crash caused by an opening door are more likely to be
    serious. Aside from any injury caused by the impact with the open door
    cyclists involved in this type of collision are frequently thrown into
    the path of following traffic with fatal consequences.

    The cycle lane has the side effect of giving some drivers the
    perception that a cyclist using the main traffic lane (to get enough
    clearance from parked cars) should not be there. This sometimes results
    in drivers behaving aggressively towards the cyclist. In other words
    the situation for cyclists is worse than if the lane was not there at
    all.

    To conclude, I would be grateful if you would provide responses to the
    following questions.

    What design guides or standards were employed when designing the cycle
    route? The route was clearly not designed using the Scottish
    Executive's guidance on cycle facility design
    (_http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library2/cbd/cbd-00.asp_) which stipulates
    a minimum lane width of 1.5m (Table 5.1) and an absolute minimum of 0.5
    m between the outside of the parking bay and the inside of the cycle
    lane (Figure 5.4 and Table 5.3).

    Do you feel that the finished cycle lane enhances the safety of the
    cyclists that use it? In particular I would be grateful if you could
    provide a copy of any official Safety Audit that was carried out prior
    to the implementation of this lane.

    Given the discrepancies between safe riding, for example as described
    in Cyclecraft, and the present layout of the lane in question, how can
    the lane now be improved?

    Yours sincerely,

    Iain Cullen

    * The RoSPA-approved manual "Cyclecraft" (The Stationery Office,
    ISBN 0 11 702051 6) (a manual of skilled cycling techniques for
    adults).


    I couldn't have put it better myself 🙂. Interestingly I did
    (eventually) get forwarded a copy of the official safety audit on the
    lane I was complaining about. This did not even mention the possibility
    of car door injuries so in my book is woefully deficient. I am working
    on the wording of my reply letter, including something along the lines
    as follows.

    "As a final point, I would formally like it put on record that your
    safety audit has failed to consider the clear and obvious danger of
    cyclists being collision with car doors and is therefore deficient. As a
    result, the Council could find itself liable in the event that any
    cyclist has an accident of this nature while using the Kilmarnock Road
    cycle lanes."

    Good luck with your letter. I only got a response after 2 months only
    because I got a cycle friendly journalist to follow up on it.
    --
    Bob Downie
    Devotee of the wheel
    please remove #n0spam# to reply directly

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