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  1. limerickman said:

    I'd prefer to see more discussion of the other 95% of races that occur during a season.

    For example <snip> RVV <snip>

    - first of all, you should change the name of this forum to "pro cycling talk" or something like that because the Road Racing forum is too slow and this one is hardly limited to the GTs. Do you have that authority?

    Koppenberg is out next year because of the bad paving - fine with me, it was fun but ridiculous in 2006.

    Can Boonen 3-peat? Only Magni has ever done that, in the 1950's. I think TB could win nothing else all year and still be a superhero if he wins at Vlaanderen.

    If it's windy (make that windier than usual) the first selection can be made well before the first bergs.

    [IMG]rvv.belogo rvv 2007.jpg[/IMG]

  2. Well done, DS.
    Finally there is someone here prepared to discuss something other than the TDF!

    I read that the Koppenberg had been removed from RVV 2007.
    I have to say I like the Koppenberg's inclusion in RVV - especially in wet conditions.

    I agree 2006 Koppenberg was a bit chaotic but it added to the spectacle.

    I expect that RVV will be TB's objective in 2007.

    Although a man who impressed me greatly and who will be a contender is Fabian Cancellara.
    (sorry Fabian if I've put the Kiss O'Death on it for you!)

  3. limerickman said:

    Well done, DS.

    I have to say I like the Koppenberg's inclusion in RVV - especially in wet conditions.

    I agree 2006 Koppenberg was a bit chaotic but it added to the spectacle.

    Thing is, it's too easy for a team mate to "crash on purpose" and take out challengers; one guy goes down and huge numbers of riders wind up walking and losing contact. I like the elements of chance and risk, but not tactics like that. And the cobbles are REALLY bad now - the subsurface has shifted and there are wheel-swallowing gaps between them.

  4. Oh yeah, Tommy Boy will be going to a 3peat and Cancellara is a good bet. But the one I'm interested to see if he can do anything is Leif Hoste now that he's no longer #2 behind Hincapie. I wonder if he has it in him.

  5. earth_dweller said:

    Oh yeah, Tommy Boy will be going to a 3peat and Cancellara is a good bet. But the one I'm interested to see if he can do anything is Leif Hoste now that he's no longer #2 behind Hincapie. I wonder if he has it in him.

    Hoste has two second places, 2004 and 2006 - how much more evidence does one need that he "has it in him" other than winning?

    As for being #2 behind Hincapie, sure didn't seem like it last year. 🙂

  6. Well, you all know what I have to say... it is one of the few races Bettini has not won. He has proven he can have fine form and can deliver on the races he programmes for...

  7. limerickman said:

    Although a man who impressed me greatly and who will be a contender is Fabian Cancellara.
    (sorry Fabian if I've put the Kiss O'Death on it for you!)

    As a Hincapie fan, I would like you to keep kissing the peloton; maybe he'll finally win it!

    Seriously, a question, what has Cancellara done in races with climbing? Roubaix was flat and his TT victories haven't been on a RVV-type course.

    I don't know as much about him as I should.

  8. JRMDC said:

    Hoste has two second places, 2004 and 2006 - how much more evidence does one need that he "has it in him" other than winning?

    As for being #2 behind Hincapie, sure didn't seem like it last year. 🙂

    We'll have to see what Hoste can do without Hincapie and Co. It's a lot easier to slip away when you've got two strong teammates with you in the winning move and they're all eyeballing one in particular.

    And yes, the bicycle racing forum is slow.

  9. helmutRoole2 said:

    We'll have to see what Hoste can do without Hincapie and Co. It's a lot easier to slip away when you've got two strong teammates with you in the winning move and they're all eyeballing one in particular.

    And yes, the bicycle racing forum is slow.


    exactly, I should have said I wonder if he still has in him after a few years at Disco.

  10. helmutRoole2 said:

    We'll have to see what Hoste can do without Hincapie and Co. It's a lot easier to slip away when you've got two strong teammates with you in the winning move and they're all eyeballing one in particular.

    In 2004, when he was 2nd RVV and 12th Roubaix, he rode for Lotto-Domo. The RVV was a solo break of 230 out of 257km. (And don't forget his nominal 2nd at Roubaix 2006!)

    I don't want him to beat Hincapie, but I don't like seeing him put down either - he is one major good rider. He has already shown he can do plenty.

  11. earth_dweller said:

    exactly, I should have said I wonder if he still has in him after a few years at Disco.

    2nd in Flanders and nominal 2nd in Roubaix last year - I'd say Disco didn't hurt him one bit!

  12. JRMDC said:

    In 2004, when he was 2nd RVV and 12th Roubaix, he rode for Lotto-Domo. The RVV was a solo break of 230 out of 257km. (And don't forget his nominal 2nd at Roubaix 2006!)

    I don't want him to beat Hincapie, but I don't like seeing him put down either - he is one major good rider. He has already shown he can do plenty.

    Agreed. Next year, keep your eye on Tyler Farrar (US, Cofidis). That's my boy from the Great Northwest and the Rounde is his kind of race. I mean, he ain't going win. I think he's still 20, but a top 10? Maybe.

  13. Powerful Pete said:

    Well, you all know what I have to say... it is one of the few races Bettini has not won. He has proven he can have fine form and can deliver on the races he programmes for...

    If Paolo really wanted this one, he should have stuck with the T-Mobile offer - no way he's going to do it with Tomtom on his team and in the race. It is a good course for him though.

  14. JRMDC said:

    2nd in Flanders and nominal 2nd in Roubaix last year - I'd say Disco didn't hurt him one bit!

    His photo is also on the promotional poster for RVV 2007 - putting the WC into difficulty (at least that's the story he'll tell his grandkids)

  15. helmutRoole2 said:

    Agreed. Next year, keep your eye on Tyler Farrar (US, Cofidis). That's my boy from the Great Northwest and the Rounde is his kind of race. I mean, he ain't going win. I think he's still 20, but a top 10? Maybe.

    With all due respect, that would be completely out of the blue. He is a promising youngster who nonetheless has nothing approaching a result like this would be. In 2005 he was an espoir. 2006 was to have been his first in the major pros, but he crashed in April; not sure how much he rode the rest of the year. Has he ever even ridden a ProTour race?

    Give him a few years, let him get some more results first. He's 22, by the way.

  16. DiabloScott said:

    His photo is also on the promotional poster for RVV 2007 - putting the WC into difficulty (at least that's the story he'll tell his grandkids)

    I saw that photo, surprised they didn't chose one with more of TB - but two Belgians, so no problems.

    I recall reading that, after Hoste attacked and TB caught up, the latter went "a bloc" to fend off a third rider, don't recall who. Hoste said he was barely able to hang on. Pretty even the rest of the way, but I don't recall either attacking until the final 400m.

  17. DiabloScott said:

    If Paolo really wanted this one, he should have stuck with the T-Mobile offer - no way he's going to do it with Tomtom on his team and in the race. It is a good course for him though.

    Fair enough. But you never know what can happen in a race. And what TB wins in the early season...

    BTW, I also forgot to mention Ballan. That boy can motor in the classics...

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