Fabric Conditioner?

Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain softener/conditioner (check the box).

You may need to put it through the wash a couple of times to finally get rid of it.

Andy H said:

Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with fabric
conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm out :-(

What's worse is when the soap doesn't get rinsed out of your riding
clothes. I remember one particularly epic ride where that had
apparently happened to my tights... it was a damp, wet ride, and my
tights were literally foaming. Pretty odd...

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...

Quoted message said:

Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
softener/conditioner (check the box).

You may need to put it through the wash a couple of times to finally
get rid of it.

softener is usually added as a seperate step, or in the dryer. So first, talk to
the person who is doing the laundry, and quit using fabric softener on wicking
fabrics. Also, line dry them.

Here's what happened to your clothing from
http://www.fabriclink.com/Carefaq.html#Fabricsoftener

Take a walk through a display of high tech apparel and you´ll find a number of
care labels that say "no fabric softeners." Many high performance fabrics and
finishes, including microfibers, allow the fabric to breathe and transport
moisture away from the skin to the outer surface of the fabric, where it can
evaporate. This keeps the wearer dry and comfortable. The "fatty" material in a
fabric softener attaches directly to the fabric and makes the fabric feel
softer. However, fabric softeners can buildup over time, and can reduce the
ability of the fabric to manage moisture and breathe.

Washing in regular detergent MAY do the job, I'm going to research this a little
more. Also fabric softener ruins DWR properties, not just wicking.

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...

Quoted message said:

Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
softener/conditioner (check the box).

Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.

small change said:

"new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...

Quoted message said:

Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
softener/conditioner (check the box).

Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.

And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Mark Hickey said:

Andy H said:

Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with
fabric
conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm
out :-(

What's worse is when the soap doesn't get rinsed out of your riding
clothes. I remember one particularly epic ride where that had
apparently happened to my tights... it was a damp, wet ride, and my
tights were literally foaming. Pretty odd...

Mark Hickey

Foaming... in the croch area... not good!
--
Slack

Slack said:

Foaming... in the croch area... not good!

Better...than...fizzing?!? ("Alka-scrotum"???)

Bill "bored waiting for the Chargers game...obviously" S.

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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:01:43 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Andy H said:

Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with
fabric
conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm
out :-(

What's worse is when the soap doesn't get rinsed out of your riding
clothes. I remember one particularly epic ride where that had
apparently happened to my tights... it was a damp, wet ride, and my
tights were literally foaming. Pretty odd...

Mark Hickey

Foaming... in the croch area... not good!
--
Slack

Time for a new washer?

"matagi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
softener/conditioner (check the box).

You may need to put it through the wash a couple of times to finally
get rid of it.

--
matagi

Here's some info I got from my fabric guru (-ess)

Removing fabric softener isn't easy!! Laundering several times may do it
but some of the detergents are not strong enough to break down the fabric
softener. Biz, an enzyme detergent that removes oily and protein stains may
help. However, very hot water is needed at the first of the process and
then soaking several hours, even overnight, produces the best results.

1¢

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"Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:01:43 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Andy H" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
> clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with
> fabric
> conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm
> out :-(

What's worse is when the soap doesn't get rinsed out of your riding
clothes. I remember one particularly epic ride where that had
apparently happened to my tights... it was a damp, wet ride, and my
tights were literally foaming. Pretty odd...

Mark Hickey

Foaming... in the croch area... not good!
--
Slack

Time for a new washer?

Can't afford a new washer....What's the going rate for adivorce? 60, 70%
plus maintenance payments? Ouch!

Ride-A-Lot said:

small change said:

"new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...
>
> Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
> washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
> softener/conditioner (check the box).
>

Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.

And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

"Hoagie"?

You can take the guy out of South Jersey, but....

/s

Scott Gordo said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

small change said:

"new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...
>> Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
>> washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
>> softener/conditioner (check the box).
>>
Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.

And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

"Hoagie"?

You can take the guy out of South Jersey, but....

/s

OK. OK. In an effort to please all those who eat large sandwiches, I
will add:

Hero
Submarine
Sub
Grinder

Did I miss any?

BTW... My pick of best Sub shop in the entire world is Tastee Sub Shop,
Plainfield Ave., Edison, NJ. If you haven't tried them, you need to.
Order a special, wet the bread, and put some hot stuff. They'll know
what you mean if you say that.

Born in NY, grew up in East Brunswick, NJ, College in Ohio, and started
my working life in Cherry Hill, NJ. I've been exposed to all of those
sandwich names.

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o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Ride-A-Lot said:

Scott Gordo said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

small change wrote:
> "new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...
>>> Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
>>> washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
>>> softener/conditioner (check the box).
>>>
> Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
> water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.
>
>
>
And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

"Hoagie"?

You can take the guy out of South Jersey, but....

/s

OK. OK. In an effort to please all those who eat large sandwiches, I
will add:

Hero
Submarine
Sub
Grinder

Did I miss any?

BTW... My pick of best Sub shop in the entire world is Tastee Sub Shop,
Plainfield Ave., Edison, NJ. If you haven't tried them, you need to.
Order a special, wet the bread, and put some hot stuff. They'll know
what you mean if you say that.

Born in NY, grew up in East Brunswick, NJ, College in Ohio, and started
my working life in Cherry Hill, NJ. I've been exposed to all of those
sandwich names.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Used to chow there back in my construction days. It was considered a
treat.

The usual was MVDeli in New Brunswick. IIRC, $3.25 for a 12 inch sub
piled VERY high. MV's roast beef may have had a taste and texture
consistent with newspaper boiled in boullion, but when I was living out
of my car during a particularly icy winter, quality took a back seat to
quantity.

/s

"Hand me roll."

Scott Gordo said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

Scott Gordo said:

Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> small change wrote:
>> "new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>>> In article <[email hidden]>, matagi says...
>>>> Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
>>>> washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
>>>> softener/conditioner (check the box).
>>>>
>> Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the rinse
>> water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.
>>
>>
>>
> And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉
>
>
>
> --
> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws
"Hoagie"?

You can take the guy out of South Jersey, but....

/s

OK. OK. In an effort to please all those who eat large sandwiches, I
will add:

Hero
Submarine
Sub
Grinder

Did I miss any?

BTW... My pick of best Sub shop in the entire world is Tastee Sub Shop,
Plainfield Ave., Edison, NJ. If you haven't tried them, you need to.
Order a special, wet the bread, and put some hot stuff. They'll know
what you mean if you say that.

Born in NY, grew up in East Brunswick, NJ, College in Ohio, and started
my working life in Cherry Hill, NJ. I've been exposed to all of those
sandwich names.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Used to chow there back in my construction days. It was considered a
treat.

The usual was MVDeli in New Brunswick. IIRC, $3.25 for a 12 inch sub
piled VERY high. MV's roast beef may have had a taste and texture
consistent with newspaper boiled in boullion, but when I was living out
of my car during a particularly icy winter, quality took a back seat to
quantity.

/s

"Hand me roll."

Hell yeah! Do you remember Stuff Yer Face in New Brunswick or who can
forget Greasy Tonys. Friggin' institutions!!!

Then dinner at Tamulties Pub. 1 pound burger and half a head of lettuce
with he model trains rolling overhead.

~sigh~ I'm old.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

This Thread has officialy been Hi-Jacked. Please move along.

TJ

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THOMAS HUNDTOFT
"Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Scott Gordo said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

Scott Gordo wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> small change wrote:
>>> "new account" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email hidden]...
>>>> In article <[email hidden]>, matagi
>>>> says...
>>>>> Soak your riding gear in warm water for a few hours. Put it in the
>>>>> washing machine with some laundry detergent which does not contain
>>>>> softener/conditioner (check the box).
>>>>>
>>> Also just found something that said to try a cup of vinegar in the
>>> rinse
>>> water, vinergar is very good at cutting residue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> And making you smell like a turkey hoagie. 😉
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>> www.schnauzers.ws
> "Hoagie"?
>
> You can take the guy out of South Jersey, but....
>
> /s
>
OK. OK. In an effort to please all those who eat large sandwiches, I
will add:

Hero
Submarine
Sub
Grinder

Did I miss any?

BTW... My pick of best Sub shop in the entire world is Tastee Sub Shop,
Plainfield Ave., Edison, NJ. If you haven't tried them, you need to.
Order a special, wet the bread, and put some hot stuff. They'll know
what you mean if you say that.

Born in NY, grew up in East Brunswick, NJ, College in Ohio, and started
my working life in Cherry Hill, NJ. I've been exposed to all of those
sandwich names.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Used to chow there back in my construction days. It was considered a
treat.

The usual was MVDeli in New Brunswick. IIRC, $3.25 for a 12 inch sub
piled VERY high. MV's roast beef may have had a taste and texture
consistent with newspaper boiled in boullion, but when I was living out
of my car during a particularly icy winter, quality took a back seat to
quantity.

/s

"Hand me roll."

Hell yeah! Do you remember Stuff Yer Face in New Brunswick or who can
forget Greasy Tonys. Friggin' institutions!!!

Then dinner at Tamulties Pub. 1 pound burger and half a head of lettuce
with he model trains rolling overhead.

~sigh~ I'm old.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

Those kind of washers are real expensive. You would be better off keeping
the model you have.

TJ

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:01:43 -0700, Mark Hickey <[email hidden]>
wrote:

> "Andy H" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
>> clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with
>> fabric
>> conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm
>> out :-(
>
> What's worse is when the soap doesn't get rinsed out of your riding
> clothes. I remember one particularly epic ride where that had
> apparently happened to my tights... it was a damp, wet ride, and my
> tights were literally foaming. Pretty odd...
>
> Mark Hickey

Foaming... in the croch area... not good!
--
Slack

Time for a new washer?

Can't afford a new washer....What's the going rate for adivorce? 60, 70%
plus maintenance payments? Ouch!

Andy H said:

Any of you lot know how to get rid of fabric conditioner residue from
clothing, all my wicking riding gear seems to have been washed with fabric
conditioner/softener and now it's just sticky damp clothing when I'm out :-(

Cheap. Shower or bathe)wearing the clothing. Use a bathroom soap.

Expensive. Here we have several companies who make proofing products for outer layer fabrics.
Most recommend a prior wash using another of their products designed to remove detergents, air pollutants,
sweat, mud particles and so on which clog the pores in the fabric.
That works well on my winter thermal gear before its put away for the summer.
Mike