home-made citrus solvents

Cyclopath! - Keiron said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Pedro's "Oranj Peelz" citrus degreaser is made out of Mineral Spirits
and orange scent. Are any of the citrus degreasers made only out of
citrus?

Cyclopath! - Keiron said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

I don't know if that would work. But it sounds tasty. Ditch the white
part of the rind though.

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Llatikcuf said:

Cyclopath! - Keiron said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus
based solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part
friendly to the environment but does anybody out there know what
processing they've undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire
orange and using the resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser?
Will the sugars in the solution destroy the objects being degreased?
Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Pedro's "Oranj Peelz" citrus degreaser is made out of Mineral Spirits
and orange scent. Are any of the citrus degreasers made only out of
citrus?

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/citrus2.htm

It's basically D-limolene - "orange oil". I believe you would need an
industrial press to extract it from oranges. It's not really something
you can produce at home.

Quoted message said:

'Waterless' orange oil is a powerful solvent. It can melt plastic,
remove glues and do many useful industrial tasks where a solvent would
be used. 'Waterless' orange oil is too strong to be of use to most
consumers. It cannot be diluted with water.

They evidently add surfactants in order to make it usable in a home
context.

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In Marseilles they make half the toilet soap we consume in America, but
the Marseillaise only have a vague theoretical idea of its use, which they
have obtained from books of travel. -- Mark Twain

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dane Buson said:

Quoted message said:

Pedro's "Oranj Peelz" citrus degreaser is made out of Mineral Spirits
and orange scent. Are any of the citrus degreasers made only out of
citrus?

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/citrus2.htm

It's basically D-limolene - "orange oil". I believe you would need an
industrial press to extract it from oranges. It's not really something
you can produce at home.

My question is, how biodegradable are these products? Do they get
degraded over days or longer if I pour it in the soil?
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"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

g'day
youth

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

g'day
youth

Dear Youth,

Here's a link into the middle of one 32-post thread on "Simple" Green,
which turns out to be a bit complicated.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

g'day
youth

Dear Youth,

Here's a link into the middle of one 32-post thread on "Simple" Green,
which turns out to be a bit complicated.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Oops! Here's the missing link:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/5d9626bfae307484/389c0d2366790243?lnk=gst&q=%22simple+green%22+dillute&rnum=1#389c0d2366790243
or http://tinyurl.com/q5voh

CF

youth said:

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

Here we go.....

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Quoted message said:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
>A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
> solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to
> the
> environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
> undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
> resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
> solution
> destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?
>
> Your ideas please
>

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

g'day
youth

Dear Youth,

Here's a link into the middle of one 32-post thread on "Simple" Green,
which turns out to be a bit complicated.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Oops! Here's the missing link:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/5d9626bfae307484/389c0d2366790243?lnk=gst&q=%22simple+green%22+dillute&rnum=1#389c0d2366790243
or http://tinyurl.com/q5voh

CF

Interesting didn't know it could be damaging to bike components & it seems
citrus work better, but for the price/quantity I think I'll stick with
Simple Green.

g'day
youth

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dane Buson said:

Quoted message said:

Pedro's "Oranj Peelz" citrus degreaser is made out of Mineral Spirits
and orange scent. Are any of the citrus degreasers made only out of
citrus?

http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/citrus2.htm

It's basically D-limolene - "orange oil". I believe you would need an
industrial press to extract it from oranges. It's not really something
you can produce at home.

My question is, how biodegradable are these products? Do they get
degraded over days or longer if I pour it in the soil?

Whatever came off of your chain is in there.

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
Artoi <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My question is, how biodegradable are these products? Do they get
degraded over days or longer if I pour it in the soil?

Whatever came off of your chain is in there.

Ok, I should have asked about just the citrus component.
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>
>"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>news:[email hidden]...
>>A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
>> solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to
>> the
>> environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
>> undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
>> resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
>> solution
>> destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?
>>
>> Your ideas please
>>
>
>
>Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
>well.
>
>g'day
>youth

Dear Youth,

Here's a link into the middle of one 32-post thread on "Simple" Green,
which turns out to be a bit complicated.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Oops! Here's the missing link:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/5d9626bfae307484/389c0d2366790243?lnk=gst&q=%22simple+green%22+dillute&rnum=1#389c0d2366790243
or http://tinyurl.com/q5voh

CF

Interesting didn't know it could be damaging to bike components & it seems
citrus work better, but for the price/quantity I think I'll stick with
Simple Green.

g'day
youth

Basically, do not soak your chain in it for long periods of time.
Just clean and wash off the chain using it.

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<[email hidden]>,

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
Artoi <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My question is, how biodegradable are these products? Do they get
degraded over days or longer if I pour it in the soil?

Whatever came off of your chain is in there.

Ok, I should have asked about just the citrus component.

So why are you discarding fresh, unused citrus cleaner?

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article
<[email hidden]>,
Artoi <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

> My question is, how biodegradable are these products? Do they get
> degraded over days or longer if I pour it in the soil?

Whatever came off of your chain is in there.

Ok, I should have asked about just the citrus component.

So why are you discarding fresh, unused citrus cleaner?

I am not. Purely on a technical point to see just how easily
biodegradable it is. 100 years vs 10 mins.
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Cyclopath! - Keiron said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

I heartily encourage you to test your proposal, and record and report
your results, so that others may be enlightened.

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

You must be getting a different Simple Green than what's sold here.
The junk peddled under that name in this area is next to worthless as
a degreaser or cleaner.
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Not to mention all the threads a while back saying that using Simple Green on
chains caused cracking in the chain. I don't say this myself as I don't use the
stuff and I personally cannot see how this would be but...

Werehatrack said:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:07:15 -0500, "youth" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cyclopath! - Keiron" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the
solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Just use Simple Green. Btw I wonder what it's made of since it works so
well.

You must be getting a different Simple Green than what's sold here.
The junk peddled under that name in this area is next to worthless as
a degreaser or cleaner.

On 10 Sep 2006 12:49:26 -0700, "Llatikcuf" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Cyclopath! - Keiron said:

A recent post re: filtering solvent, got me looking in to citrus based
solvents. Most seem to have claims to be at least in part friendly to the
environment but does anybody out there know what processing they've
undergone? What's to stop me crushing an entire orange and using the
resulting juice/peel oil mix as a degreaser? Will the sugars in the solution
destroy the objects being degreased? Is it even effective?

Your ideas please

Pedro's "Oranj Peelz" citrus degreaser is made out of Mineral Spirits
and orange scent. Are any of the citrus degreasers made only out of
citrus?

AFAIK, I haven't bought any that featured a petrochem-based solvent so
far, but none were pure citrus oil derivative. I've seen what that
stuff's like; it will curdle old paint. It's also distressingly
expensive, which is why it's just one component in the citrus-based
cleaning products.
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Werehatrack said:

AFAIK, I haven't bought any that featured a petrochem-based solvent so
far, but none were pure citrus oil derivative. I've seen what that
stuff's like; it will curdle old paint. It's also distressingly
expensive, which is why it's just one component in the citrus-based
cleaning products.

I scanned the label of the "Oranj Peelz" bottle, it's some pretty bad
[censored]! Don't think I'll buy that again. It does contain some orange peel
extract (as d-limonene), but it also says it has mineral spirits in it.
Check out the warnings!

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dial up-ers)

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