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  1. I've recently started riding in the dark. At the moment I use a head
    torch but it's not very comfortable (as I can't get it over my helmet,
    so has to go round my forehead underneath the helmet). Does anyone use
    any other form of lighting when unicycling in the dark other than head
    torches?

    Cathy

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  2. underdog said:

    I figured some kind of handlebar mount light for a bike but mounted to
    the seatpost would work but then it's only adjustable right and left.

    As for a front light, depending on the bracket, there should be some
    way of alternatively attaching the bracket to allow up/down adjustment
    of the light.

    I did something similar to mount a Schwinn bike computer on the
    downtube of my uni (use the mounting bracket in a non standard way).

    --Tom

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  3. There are two reasons to use lights: one is to see with; the other is to
    make you visible to others.

    Strictly speaking, the lights should be attached to the vehicle, not
    the rider, to comply with UK law, but as so many cyclists use no light
    at all, the police are very unlikely to worry about lights that exist
    but are not fully compliant - especially if the rider is on a bloody
    great unicycle with no brakes.😉

    I have owned 3 head torches of very different design, and all of them
    have been adjustable to fit round my helmet. I would be surprised if
    yours cannot be made to fit.

    The problem is getting the elastic to sit still instead of slipping up
    the outside of the helmet. An answer to this is to get some
    sticky-backed Velcro discs - the hooky ones, not the furry ones, and
    stick them to the helmet. This will snag the elastic of the head band
    of the torch and hold it in place.

    A 3 LED head torch allows enough light for steady road or pavement
    riding, and easy towpaths and the like. As it is near to your eyeline,
    there is some back scatter from fog or dust, and it also attracts
    insects towards your eyes, which is a Bad Thing.

    Any single point of light will give you only limited information about
    the surface, because you don't get the full 3 dimensionel effect. The
    ideal is to have two sources of light, although very powerful head
    torches (£100 plus!) will do the business. I haven't ridden in the
    dark for a while (getting old and lazy), but when I did, I relied on a
    3 LED head torch and carried a small hand torch (Mini Mag-Lite). I'd
    use the hand torch for scanning the route ahead, and giving more detail
    on tricky bits, and the head torch to provide a pool of light a few
    metres ahead of me. It is important to be able to ride by feel, so
    that you use the lights to tell you what's coming, but your skill to
    deal with what's immediately under your wheel.

    As for the lights to be seen with: there are various cheap and cheerful
    LED lights available. I have a red LEd mounted on the seat post,
    fairly high up, and a white LED mounted just above the fork crown.

    Good luck, you'll have lots of fun.🙂

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  4. cathwood said:

    Does anyone use any other form of lighting when unicycling in the dark
    other than head torches?

    I've tried mounting lights in various places, but if the light is for
    seeing by (rather than being seen by) then I've found that it has to be
    either head-mounted or hand-held.

    Anything mounted to the unicycle will present problematic shadows, and
    usually distracting moving shadows as the legs go past on either side.

    Anything mounted to the body (I've tried abdominal lights) will move
    from side to side with each pedal stroke, which is distracting.

    Head-mounted or hand-held lights will remain steady as you ride and can
    be directed wherever you most need the light. In good weather I prefer
    head-mounting. In snow, rain or fog the reflections from a head
    mounted light will render the light useless, so it has to be hand-held.

    The advantages of head-mounting are so great on a unicycle that I am
    willing to wear a helmet in order to mount my Lumicycles to it - the
    only reason that I would wear a helmet on a unicycle.

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  5. I've used 'pedals with LEDs like these' (http://www.pedalite.com/) on my
    29er at night. Just watch out for rubberneckers! 😉

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  6. You can make a pretty sucsessful headlamp at home

    Go to a hardware or lighting store and get a 40-50watt small lamp, (i
    cant remember what it was exactly) but make sure you get one of the
    ones that is low heat, the lower the better

    You then mount this either in a wire frame or in a peice of plastic
    tubing (hence the low heat thingy) add a switch and a 12v battery (in a
    backpack) and you have a bloody strong headlamp, there was one when i
    was at the 2006 cateye Moonride (a 24 hour mountain bike race, that we
    did on unicycles of course) and it was fantastic, mounted on your
    helmet

    Well hope that makes sense

    Cheers

    Dan

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  7. nzunicyclist.dan said:

    You can make a pretty sucsessful headlamp at home ....

    I converted a maglite to a 12V DC 20 Watt Halogen for my night riding
    on mountain bike.
    [image: http://www.trappersplace.com/maglite/sideshot1.jpg]

    50 watt would be big time overkill and generate too much heat. You
    would also need too big a battery (heavy) to power it any reasonable
    length of time. Even the 20 watt one I built needed a 5 lb battery
    which was fine for a bike but I'm not willing to carry it on the one
    wheeler. I also don't feel I need 20 watt for the uni. I needed 20
    watt for the bike to illuminate far enough ahead to allow me to ride at
    high speed and see stuff in time to navigate it. Speed isn't so much
    an issue on the uni so I'll be modifying it to a 10 watt setup with a
    much lighter power source. I can probably put together a lighter NiMH
    cell pack that will hold up for 2 hours or so now.

    For those that are interested here's the project link. 'Maglite
    Project' (http://tinyurl.com/l7qqb)

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  8. to get a good headlamp without spending a bunch of money you're
    basically going to have to homebrew one much like what's posted above.
    the lower end Niterider lights are under $100US, and some pretty good
    ones can be had for around $250. Cateye makes a light call the
    "doubleshot" which is lightweight and incredibly bright. What you'll
    spend depends on how much light you need. 24 hr mtn bike racing needs
    as much as possible so systems for that run $300-600. riding a unicycle
    after dark down a sidewalk doesn't need much but $70-100 would probably
    be a good investment. if you can still see but need others to see you,
    $25-50 is probaly more than sufficient.

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  9. I've been looking for a decent light for night riding as well. Has
    anyone tried CygoLite such as the following...

    'HiFlux200 B*ke Light'
    (http://www.cygolite.com/2-Products/2-Hiflux200-2.htm)

    Would the water bottle cage mount for the battery work on a Uni?

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  10. seems like a solid light. and the battery would work fine, you'd just
    have to get a helmet mount for the light and put that battery in a
    jersey pocket or camelbak.

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  11. nzunicyclist.dan said:

    You can make a pretty sucsessful headlamp at home

    Go to a hardware or lighting store and get a 40-50watt small lamp, (i
    cant remember what it was exactly) but make sure you get one of the
    ones that is low heat, the lower the better

    You then mount this either in a wire frame or in a peice of plastic
    tubing (hence the low heat thingy) add a switch and a 12v battery (in a
    backpack) and you have a bloody strong headlamp, there was one when i
    was at the 2006 cateye Moonride (a 24 hour mountain bike race, that we
    did on unicycles of course) and it was fantastic, mounted on your
    helmet

    My commercial head torch uses a halogen bulb type MR11 (6V 10W).
    However if you use the larger MR16 bulb (say 12V 10~20W) you can mount
    it in standard plumbing adapters, I have nearly finished building one
    for my bike. A 50W bulb would result in very heavy battery, or a very
    short battery life.

    The easiest way to mount the lights to your helmet is with velcro
    straps (this is the bit I have still to do).

    The total cost, excluding battery and charger, is less than £10. I
    already have the other bits but total cost should be <£30.

    I will try and bring them upto Manchester, alternatively search the web
    for "homemade cycle lights" and you will find lots of pictures,
    including full parts lists. e.g.
    http://www.geocities.com/jimburnetto/bike_light.html in the UK Maplins
    is the easiest shop to buy the parts.

    I used to ride with a Petzl head torch, but found cars would pull out
    on me even if I shone the beam into their eyes. If you have a 10W bulb
    this does not happen, if a car is blinding me on a lane a quick lifting
    of the head to 'flash' the driver usually results in them turning off
    full beam.

    Also a quick look back when a car is approaching fast from behind is a
    great way of slowing them down (I avoid shining the full beam at them)
    as it is unusual. This normally results in me being given sufficient
    road space.

    Keith

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  12. cathwood said:

    I've recently started riding in the dark. At the moment I use a head
    torch but it's not very comfortable (as I can't get it over my helmet,
    so has to go round my forehead underneath the helmet). Does anyone use
    any other form of lighting when unicycling in the dark other than head
    torches?

    Cathy

    Cathy is this on road or off road riding? I can only comment on off
    road muni and XC riding in the dark. All the times have been with a
    'Petzl Xenon' (http://www.sailgb.com/p/myolite_xenon_halogen_headlamp/)
    head torch. This has provided enough light to ride by but to be honest
    something a little stronger would have been nicer. I have also started
    taking out a 3W LED small hand torch that is proving very useful.

    XC night riding is excellent fun and is a great way of improving your
    riding.

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  13. I've got a 12w and a 10w pair of halogen lights. They're head mounted.
    They work.

    They're pretty expensive though, from http://www.lumicycle.co.uk

    Mounting to your heads works best almost all the time. To mount lights
    that don't come with helmet mounts to your helmet, you can buy velcro
    zip-ties from a DIY store to put them on. Night riding is different,
    and things look different, but you get used to watching the shape of
    the ground in other ways than looking at the shadows.

    Generally, people either use halogen bulbs, or LEDs. LEDs are v.v.
    expensive for a good one currently though.

    Personally I'd not bother building my own halogen light any more,
    unless you have lots of bulbs, batteries connectors etc. already,
    because you can buy things like the Electron lights
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5769
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=8736
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=8738
    for about the same as the parts would cost to make a similar light
    yourself.

    Joe

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  14. I have a Lumicycle light too, and if you don't mind the price I can
    recommend them. They seem to be well-built and pretty good value.

    Mine is the 12 watt 'single light' (http://tinyurl.com/j64ux) with a
    2.2 Amp/h Li-Ion battery. I haven't got a helmet mount yet but I've
    used it for night muni by clipping the bracket around my forefinger and
    holding the battery pack in my hand, and it works prety well. The best
    thing about it is that the battery pack is pretty tiny and still lasts
    for almost two hours.

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  15. :o

    Mikefule said:

    I have owned 3 head torches of very different design, and all of them
    have been adjustable to fit round my helmet. I would be surprised if
    yours cannot be made to fit.

    Good luck, you'll have lots of fun.🙂

    Thanks Mike. I went back to my helmet. Took off the take offable peak.
    And lo and behold it fitted (duh!).

    So now the posts about good head lights are relevant.

    Norry - as social conditioning has conditioned me to be afraid of rape
    and pillage if I venture out into the dark and isolated spots on my
    own, I'm going to stick to road riding for now. Having said that I have
    found it great fun to ride round a certain local field in the dark. So
    perhaps when I have more confidence in riding in the dark I'll go with
    the statistics - which suggest I am safer in the dark and isolated spot
    than I am at home.

    So thanks for all the replies. It's time for some shopping.

    Cathy

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  16. cathwood said:


    Norry - as social conditioning has conditioned me to be afraid of rape
    and pillage if I venture out into the dark and isolated spots on my
    own, I'm going to stick to road riding for now. Cathy

    I realise you write half in jest, but the number of people raped by
    strangers each year is tiny; the number of cyclists killed on the road
    is large.

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  17. Mikefule said:

    I realise you write half in jest, but the number of people raped by
    strangers each year is tiny; the number of cyclists killed on the road
    is large.

    Well that was my (half in jest and almost totally obscure) point I
    think. The media doesn't get as hysterical about cyclists being killed
    on the road as it does about women being raped by strangers (especially
    if said strangers have some kind of mental health problem). In my most
    feminist/paranoid moments I wonder if its all some kind of plot to keep
    women from getting too adventurous. And since cars reign supreme in
    this country, we wouldn't want to emphasise their killing power too
    much now would we. 😉

    Cathy

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