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  1. Bill Baka said:

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    Check out these images (careful not to drool on your keyboard):

    <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,

    <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,

    <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.

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    That bent looks almost like a piece of art to be hung in a museum. It
    also looks almost too comfortable, like I might doze off in bliss while
    riding.

    I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
    keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
    "John Wayne style"😉. ;-)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  2. Mark Hickey said:
    Bill Baka said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

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    > Check out these images (careful not to drool on your keyboard):
    >
    > <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
    >
    > <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
    >
    > <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.

    Quoted message said:

    That bent looks almost like a piece of art to be hung in a museum. It
    also looks almost too comfortable, like I might doze off in bliss while
    riding.

    I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
    keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
    "John Wayne style"😉. ;-)

    Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
    the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
    has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
    high performance bike.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

  3. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Mark Hickey wrote:

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    >> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
    >>
    >> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ffotos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
    >>
    >> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos/nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.

    I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
    keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
    "John Wayne style"😉. ;-)

    Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
    the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
    has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
    high performance bike.

    I'm truly curious about this though - I know on my own wedgie bikes,
    my knees pass within an inch or so of the top tube. If I assume that
    I don't automatically go all bow-legged when riding a 'bent, I'd
    assume that the when my knees passed across the upper chainline/pulley
    on the 'bent in the photos above, that they'd be similarly close to
    the bike's centerline (something around two inches / 5cm or less).
    Clearly the chain is further from the bike's centerline than that - I
    suspect that the tube itself is wider than that - add at least a
    couple more inches for the idler pulley and chain, and I simply don't
    see why I wouldn't be smacking some part of my leg on the drivetrain
    regularly.

    What am I missing?

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Hickey said:
    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

    Mark Hickey wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos
    >>> /nme/foto-001.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>,
    >>>
    >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/html/picturepopup.php?picture=images%2Ff
    >>> otos%2Fnme%2Ffoto-011.jpg&quality=87&size=100%25&type=0&show_info_tags=
    >>> 1&sort=1&repeat=&taal=en>,
    >>>
    >>> <http://www.challengebikes.com/images/picture.php?filename=images/fotos
    >>> /nme/foto-012.jpg&size=500&type=2&quality=87>.

    I suspect trying to keep your right knee away from the chain might
    keep you awake... (or do 'bent riders like to ride with their knees
    "John Wayne style"😉. ;-)

    Having owner several lowracers and ridden a few more, contact between
    the chain and the rider's leg will not be an issue, unless the rider
    has very fat legs. In that case, he/she is not likely to be riding a
    high performance bike.

    I'm truly curious about this though - I know on my own wedgie bikes,
    my knees pass within an inch or so of the top tube. If I assume that
    I don't automatically go all bow-legged when riding a 'bent, I'd
    assume that the when my knees passed across the upper chainline/pulley
    on the 'bent in the photos above, that they'd be similarly close to
    the bike's centerline (something around two inches / 5cm or less).
    Clearly the chain is further from the bike's centerline than that - I
    suspect that the tube itself is wider than that - add at least a
    couple more inches for the idler pulley and chain, and I simply don't
    see why I wouldn't be smacking some part of my leg on the drivetrain
    regularly.

    What am I missing?

    I suspect there's two easy answers here:

    1) despite what you may think, your knee never goes near the chain (or
    that top idler pulley). It traces a circle within the triangle made by
    the chain run, and that circle may not even cover the frame tube. Note
    that the seat is really low: your leg definitely on a strongly upward
    line. Indeed, this bike seems to have a high "bottom" bracket even by
    lowracer standards. Hm...I checked a few, this seems fairly typical of
    lowracer designs.

    2) the Q factor could just be really bad, fixing all the clearance
    problems.

    I think a more serious concern is whether this vehicle (human powered)
    might inspire more bad lowracer epic poems:

    http://32go.us/pow/lowracer.htm

    Please, no,

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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