(N+1)st tool

DeF said:

I decided to make a tool to fix it

That's really gorgeous! It's sure to last a lifetime. Might be a good idea to paint it or get it powder-coated tho...

I've been meaning to braze up a decent wheel-truing stand for years.

suzyj said:

DeF said:

I decided to make a tool to fix it

That's really gorgeous! It's sure to last a lifetime. Might be a good
idea to paint it or get it powder-coated tho...

I've been meaning to braze up a decent wheel-truing stand for years.

I have thought about painting it and have the means to do
it but I was too keen to put it into action!

It should last several lifetimes I think. One problem
with it is that there is a bit of lateral movement at
the head piece. The hole for the bolt is not quite snug
enough. It just takes a bit of care when using it.

DeF

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DeF said:

After a prang a couple of moths ago that resulted
in a bent dérailleur hanger I decided to make a tool
to fix it, following the design of (for example)
the Park tool
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=48&item=DAG%2D1
I could have bought one but they're expensive
and hard to get hold off.

Anyway, I finally got it finished and took
delivery last night. There are some pictures
at
http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/
and click on "cycling" in the second paragraph.

In the end, I didn't do that much myself. I don't
have much metal work stuff in my workshop. I got
my Dad to turn up the head piece (he has a metal
lathe) and a mate of a mate to do the welding.

Pretty time consuming in the end. Had to go on
a treasure hunt to find a bolt in Perth with the
right thread. Had to wait for Aussie post for the
head piece from Adelaide and then it disappeared
while it was getting welded together. I did hacksaw
the handle though and insert white plug in exposed
end.

Wow! Here's what I use: http://tinyurl.com/z8lsx

;-)

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BrettS

BrettS said:

DeF said:

After a prang a couple of moths ago that resulted
in a bent dérailleur hanger I decided to make a tool
to fix it, following the design of (for example)
the Park tool
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=48&item=DAG%2D1
I could have bought one but they're expensive
and hard to get hold off.

Anyway, I finally got it finished and took
delivery last night. There are some pictures
at
http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/
and click on "cycling" in the second paragraph.

In the end, I didn't do that much myself. I don't
have much metal work stuff in my workshop. I got
my Dad to turn up the head piece (he has a metal
lathe) and a mate of a mate to do the welding.

Pretty time consuming in the end. Had to go on
a treasure hunt to find a bolt in Perth with the
right thread. Had to wait for Aussie post for the
head piece from Adelaide and then it disappeared
while it was getting welded together. I did hacksaw
the handle though and insert white plug in exposed
end.

Wow! Here's what I use: http://tinyurl.com/z8lsx

;-)

--
BrettS

Indeed, and that is what I used initially and several
times in the past. However, I had trouble getting it
accurate enough to stop making running noise. Maybe
these new-fangled 9sp systems are a bit more sensitive
than my old 6 and 7 speed bikes.

DeF

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DeF said:

After a prang a couple of moths ago that resulted
in a bent dérailleur hanger I decided to make a tool
to fix it, following the design of (for example)
the Park tool
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=48&item=DAG%2D1
I could have bought one but they're expensive
and hard to get hold off.

Anyway, I finally got it finished and took
delivery last night. There are some pictures
at
http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/
and click on "cycling" in the second paragraph.

In the end, I didn't do that much myself. I don't
have much metal work stuff in my workshop. I got
my Dad to turn up the head piece (he has a metal
lathe) and a mate of a mate to do the welding.

Pretty time consuming in the end. Had to go on
a treasure hunt to find a bolt in Perth with the
right thread. Had to wait for Aussie post for the
head piece from Adelaide and then it disappeared
while it was getting welded together. I did hacksaw
the handle though and insert white plug in exposed
end.

DeF

Have you considered welding on (or otherwise attaching) an adjustable
square, so you aren't relying on holding the ruler manually?
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phillip brown

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Phillip Brown said:

DeF said:

After a prang a couple of moths ago that resulted
in a bent dérailleur hanger I decided to make a tool
to fix it, following the design of (for example)
the Park tool
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=48&item=DAG%2D1
I could have bought one but they're expensive
and hard to get hold off.

Anyway, I finally got it finished and took
delivery last night. There are some pictures
at
http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~dfarrow/
and click on "cycling" in the second paragraph.

In the end, I didn't do that much myself. I don't
have much metal work stuff in my workshop. I got
my Dad to turn up the head piece (he has a metal
lathe) and a mate of a mate to do the welding.

Pretty time consuming in the end. Had to go on
a treasure hunt to find a bolt in Perth with the
right thread. Had to wait for Aussie post for the
head piece from Adelaide and then it disappeared
while it was getting welded together. I did hacksaw
the handle though and insert white plug in exposed
end.

DeF

Have you considered welding on (or otherwise attaching) an adjustable
square, so you aren't relying on holding the ruler manually?

Yes I have. In fact, that is what the Park version of the
tool has. Couple of problems. First, the square has to
slide along the arm for different size wheels and because the
hanger axis is not the same as the axle's. Second, I couldn't
think of a simple way to do it. This is not a tool I hope to
need to use all that often! Holding onto the ruler is actually
not much effort and you have to put it down to bend the hanger
anyway. If it were attached to the arm I think it would get
in the way. Version 1.0 seems to be working OK, version 1.1
will be the same but painted. Version 2.0 will have a longer
head piece so there's not as much lateral movement.

DeF

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DeF said:

One problem with it is that there is a bit of lateral
movement at the head piece. The hole for the
bolt is not quite snug enough. It just takes a bit
of care when using it.

You could fix that by brazing a sleeve over your M10x1 bolt, then chucking the bolt in a lathe and turning the sleeve so it's nice and round, and more importantly has a nicely defined shoulder. Then open the hole up so that it's a nice fit on the sleeve.

You might need to put a circlip groove in there somewhere to keep the handle piece from sliding up and down the sleeve.

When you use it, just screw the bolt into the hanger so that the shoulder on the sleeve sits nicely on the side of the hanger, and Bob's your uncle...

Of course, all that is predicated on easy access to a lathe.

Cheers,

Suzy (who doesn't have her own lathe, but knows what sort of beer her friends with lathes like)

DeF

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suzyj said:

DeF said:

One problem with it is that there is a bit of lateral
movement at the head piece. The hole for the
bolt is not quite snug enough. It just takes a bit
of care when using it.

You could fix that by brazing a sleeve over your M10x1 bolt, then
chucking the bolt in a lathe and turning the sleeve so it's nice and
round, and more importantly has a nicely defined shoulder. Then open
the hole up so that it's a nice fit on the sleeve.

You might need to put a circlip groove in there somewhere to keep the
handle piece from sliding up and down the sleeve.

When you use it, just screw the bolt into the hanger so that the
shoulder on the sleeve sits nicely on the side of the hanger, and Bob's
your uncle...

Of course, all that is predicated on easy access to a lathe.

Cheers,

Suzy (who doesn't have her own lathe, but knows what sort of beer her
friends with lathes like)

DeF

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I don't have my own lathe either. I live in Perth so I sent
the specs to Pater (in Adelaide) and he mailed the head piece
back. One doesn't like to comment on any perceived differences
between how he and I may have done things.....

It's nice lathe to - an old Hercules Model C with a collection
of thread cutting gears. Picked the lot up for $100 about
25 years ago. Unbelievable. He spent more than that getting
a new tool stock shortly after.

In fact, it's one of those pieces of equipment that has lots of
stories associated with it. In my youth, I made a couple of
stub axles on it that are still kicking around somewhere. The
dog used to sleep on the pile of metal cuttings. She was forever
causing havoc by bringing them inside as they stuck to her fur.

Other things: I obviated the need for a circlip by leaving room
for two nuts that lock against each other.

DeF

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quote='suzyj'DeF said:

I decided to make a tool to fix it

That's really gorgeous![/QUOTE]Now there's a compliment! 🙂