Doper admits!!

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Gatlin admits drug use

By Philip Hersh
Tribune olympic sports reporter
Published August 22, 2006, 5:04 PM CDT

Olympic 100-meter champion Justin Gatlin has admitted doping and faces
a ban that could effectively end his track and field career.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Tuesday that Gatlin has agreed to
the validity of his positive test for testosterone and "promised to
cooperate'' in anti-doping efforts.

Well hopefully Landis is next.

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In exchange for that promise, USADA said it would seek a maximum
suspension of eight years and will allow Gatlin, 24, to seek a
reduction in the length of that ban.

Under international anti-doping rules, Gatlin could be banned for life
because he previously had tested positive for a banned stimulant.

Neither Gatlin nor his attorneys could be reached for comment.

Gatlin's promise to cooperate likely includes his willingness to
provide evidence against his coach, Trevor Graham, who has been the
target of anti-doping investigators the past three years.

Gatlin is one of 10 athletes to have been suspended for doping
violations that occurred while they were being coached by Graham.

"Justin Gatlin's doping case has been a setback for our sport,'' USA
Track and Field chief executive Craig Masback said in a statement
Tuesday. "While we are glad Justin has taken responsibility for his
positive test and will cooperate in USADA's anti-doping efforts, we are
sorely disappointed in him.''

Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune

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Gatlin admits drug use

By Philip Hersh
Tribune olympic sports reporter
Published August 22, 2006, 5:04 PM CDT

Olympic 100-meter champion Justin Gatlin has admitted doping and faces
a ban that could effectively end his track and field career.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Tuesday that Gatlin has agreed to
the validity of his positive test for testosterone and "promised to
cooperate'' in anti-doping efforts.

"Cooperation" defined as admitting the use of dope, or cooperating as
in naming names (all the names) of people who supplied, advised and
enabled him?

Another one swept under the rug. Not a clean sweep, but a sweep
nonetheless.

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Gatlin admits drug use

I don't believe him.
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Gatlin admits drug use

I don't believe him.

I demand that he shoot up on national television.

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Michael Press

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Gatlin admits drug use

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From what I heard he was still claiming that a disgruntled trainer

rubbed testosterone cream on him without his knowledge. So he admits
that the positive test was valid, not that he is a doper.
Jeff

Jeff said:

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Gatlin admits drug use

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From what I heard he was still claiming that a disgruntled trainer

rubbed testosterone cream on him without his knowledge. So he admits
that the positive test was valid, not that he is a doper.
Jeff

This would be a nice time for a [censored] Pound quote in the media. If
cycling were to give a 2nd offender a mere 8-year rap (without at least
an admission), he'd be all over us.

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Gatlin admits drug use

By Philip Hersh
Tribune olympic sports reporter
Published August 22, 2006, 5:04 PM CDT

Olympic 100-meter champion Justin Gatlin has admitted doping and faces
a ban that could effectively end his track and field career.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Tuesday that Gatlin has agreed to
the validity of his positive test for testosterone and "promised to
cooperate'' in anti-doping efforts.

"Cooperation" defined as admitting the use of dope, or cooperating as
in naming names (all the names) of people who supplied, advised and
enabled him?

Another one swept under the rug. Not a clean sweep, but a sweep
nonetheless.

As I read it, Gatlin's choices were: (a) don't "cooperate", and be
banned for life; (b) "cooperate", and be banned only for 8 years. The
penalties are practically equivalent (like he's really gonna stage a
huge comeback 8 years from now...), so it figures that the
"cooperation" will be effectively worthless.

Dwayne said:

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Gatlin admits drug use

By Philip Hersh
Tribune olympic sports reporter
Published August 22, 2006, 5:04 PM CDT

Olympic 100-meter champion Justin Gatlin has admitted doping and faces
a ban that could effectively end his track and field career.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced Tuesday that Gatlin has agreed to
the validity of his positive test for testosterone and "promised to
cooperate'' in anti-doping efforts.

"Cooperation" defined as admitting the use of dope, or cooperating as
in naming names (all the names) of people who supplied, advised and
enabled him?

Another one swept under the rug. Not a clean sweep, but a sweep
nonetheless.

As I read it, Gatlin's choices were: (a) don't "cooperate", and be
banned for life; (b) "cooperate", and be banned only for 8 years. The
penalties are practically equivalent (like he's really gonna stage a
huge comeback 8 years from now...), so it figures that the
"cooperation" will be effectively worthless.

Actually, they are dangling the carrot of a reduced suspension if he
cooperates. That's what USADA is telling the media. Of course, they
have not elaborated on what they meant (nor should we ever expect them
to). Their big issue: that he not contest the validity of the test
(that's probably what they mean by being cooperative). With this
supposed "compromise" they are still allowing him to continue to
attempt to show that he has extenuating circumstances...So they are
essentially allowing him to continue to search for a good excuse. Not
contesting the test itself will be perceived as "cooperating", and
we'll have Gaitlin back and running again in virtually no time at all.

If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing
code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

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Dwayne said:

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Another one swept under the rug. Not a clean sweep, but a sweep
nonetheless.

As I read it, Gatlin's choices were: (a) don't "cooperate", and be
banned for life; (b) "cooperate", and be banned only for 8 years. The
penalties are practically equivalent (like he's really gonna stage a
huge comeback 8 years from now...), so it figures that the
"cooperation" will be effectively worthless.

Actually, they are dangling the carrot of a reduced suspension if he
cooperates. That's what USADA is telling the media. Of course, they
have not elaborated on what they meant (nor should we ever expect them
to). Their big issue: that he not contest the validity of the test
(that's probably what they mean by being cooperative). With this
supposed "compromise" they are still allowing him to continue to
attempt to show that he has extenuating circumstances...So they are
essentially allowing him to continue to search for a good excuse. Not
contesting the test itself will be perceived as "cooperating", and
we'll have Gaitlin back and running again in virtually no time at all.

If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing
code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

Good point. I thought of that after I posted (and wished I hadn't).
Still, something bugs me. Why would Gatlin's lawyers advise him to
admit guilt *without a firm deal in hand*? Seems like an impossibly big
gamble, unless we ratchet things up to conspiracy theory levels of
complexity (e.g. there's a secret addition to the announced deal,
selected details of which will be released at a later date, that
seriously reduces the penalty). But I agree, USADA gives athletics a
lot more leeway than cycling.

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If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing

code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

Well, last night I heard that they cut the suspension from 8 years
down to 4. Still almost career-ending for a sprinter if it stands (not
sure how old Gatlin is), and more than the 2 years for cycling.
But as you say, they will probably figure out a way to bring him
back in 1-2 years.

quote='Jeff said:

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If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing

code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

Well, last night I heard that they cut the suspension from 8 years
down to 4. Still almost career-ending for a sprinter if it stands (not
sure how old Gatlin is), and more than the 2 years for cycling.
But as you say, they will probably figure out a way to bring him
back in 1-2 years.[/QUOTE]

Gatlin is 24.

Jeff said:

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If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing

code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

Well, last night I heard that they cut the suspension from 8 years
down to 4. Still almost career-ending for a sprinter if it stands (not
sure how old Gatlin is), and more than the 2 years for cycling.
But as you say, they will probably figure out a way to bring him
back in 1-2 years.

I'd be in favor of giving him just 2 years. His prior ban was over an
ingredient in his ADHD medication, and he'd been taking it for several
years before he began competing.

But they can't just let him walk (or run) away.

Jeff said:

last night I heard that they cut the suspension from 8 years
down to 4. Still almost career-ending for a sprinter if it stands (not
sure how old Gatlin is),

He's 24

quote=''Jeff said:

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Quoted message said:

If you ask me, it's the USADA's way of brilliantly dodging the existing

code. They'll be able to spin it in such a manner that WADA and the
IOC won't get mad, and they'll be able to get Gaitlin back in
competition again. Unfortunately for Floyd, cycling does not mean as
much to them as track and field does.

Well, last night I heard that they cut the suspension from 8 years
down to 4. Still almost career-ending for a sprinter if it stands (not
sure how old Gatlin is), and more than the 2 years for cycling.
But as you say, they will probably figure out a way to bring him
back in 1-2 years.

I'd be in favor of giving him just 2 years. His prior ban was over an
ingredient in his ADHD medication, and he'd been taking it for several
years before he began competing.

But they can't just let him walk (or run) away.[/QUOTE]

Yes the extrodinaroy circumstances of the first offense are such the current penalty ought be treated similar to a first offense, particularly when you consider he was 9 when placed on that medication, had been on it over a decade going back to that young age and could not have been expected to know better. Also, while there were performance enhancing stimulants included in that cocktail, the medication on balance had more performance inhibiting elements net.