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  1. Why are they predominantly blue?

    Regards! Stephen

  2. Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?

    Dunno, but it's the same with the Belgian jerseys. Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is
    universally regarded as ugly. It is by me.

  3. Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?

    Regards! Stephen

    Prussian Blue?

  4. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?


    Dunno, but it's the same with the Belgian jerseys. Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is
    universally regarded as ugly. It is by me.

    Or maybe it's because the German TEAM JERSEY is not the same thing as the German NATIONAL CHAMPION
    JERSEY, which manages to make Zabel look quite dashing by the way.

    -Sonarrat.

  5. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?

    Dunno, but it's the same with the Belgian jerseys. Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is
    universally regarded as ugly. It is by me.

    True, but the Belgian jersey was always blue - Germans changed a few years ago. Now that I think
    about it wasn't the old East German jersey (before the grey skinsuits) blue?

    Regards! Stephen

  6. Quoted message said:

    From: Stewart Fleming [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Prussian Blue?

    Now let's see how many machinists we have here? Bill C

  7. Sonarrat said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?

    Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is universally regarded as ugly.

    Or maybe it's because the German TEAM JERSEY is not the same thing as the German NATIONAL
    CHAMPION JERSEY

    I had that figured out, thanks. And I didn't really think "ugly flag" was a valid reason. Still, the
    national team jerseys all(?) have some design related to the nation, most often inspired by the
    national flag and its colours. One exception is Holland with predominantly orange outfits (after our
    royal House of Orange, and, conveniently, sponsor Rabobank). So what significance does the blue have
    for Belgium and Germany?

  8. Steve McGinty said:

    Why are they predominantly blue?

    Because last year it was the italians turn to wear blue.

  9. TritonRider said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Stewart Fleming [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Prussian Blue?

    Now let's see how many machinists we have here?

    There's that world champion overend hammer lifter isn't there?

  10. TritonRider said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Stewart Fleming [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Prussian Blue?

    Now let's see how many machinists we have here? Bill C


    not something one hears about often in the CNC age I'd bet...

  11. On 10/08/2003 04:04 PM, in article [email hidden], "Ewoud

    Dronkert said:
    Sonarrat said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:17:13 +0100, Steve McGinty wrote:
    > Why are they predominantly blue?

    Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is universally regarded as ugly.

    Or maybe it's because the German TEAM JERSEY is not the same thing as the German NATIONAL
    CHAMPION JERSEY

    I had that figured out, thanks. And I didn't really think "ugly flag" was a valid reason. Still,
    the national team jerseys all(?) have some design related to the nation, most often inspired by
    the national flag and its colours. One exception is Holland with predominantly orange outfits
    (after our royal House of Orange, and, conveniently, sponsor Rabobank). So what significance does
    the blue have for Belgium and Germany?

    Australia's national flag is red, white and blue ... So why are their national champion and national
    team jerseys green and gold????

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
    pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti
    ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe
    dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  12. There are only just so many combinations of red white and blue before designers run out of ides. Some years ago Aussies started questioning our close historic and cultural links to Brittain. Changing the flag was just too contentious so it remains RW&B (for the moment). Instead, we introduced national colours for our sporting teams - Green and Gold. They represent the colour of the wattle tree - a very common tree (Acacia species) across Aus. A slightly grey green foliage with an abundance of yellow flowers in S.Hemisphere Spring.

    Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Steven L. Sheff
    On 10/08/2003 04:04 PM, in article [email hidden], "Ewoud

    Dronkert said:
    Sonarrat said:
    Ewoud Dronkert said:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:17:13 +0100, Steve McGinty wrote:
    > Why are they predominantly blue?

    Maybe the black, yellow, red combination is universally regarded as ugly.

    Or maybe it's because the German TEAM JERSEY is not the same thing as the German NATIONAL
    CHAMPION JERSEY

    I had that figured out, thanks. And I didn't really think "ugly flag" was a valid reason. Still,
    the national team jerseys all(?) have some design related to the nation, most often inspired by
    the national flag and its colours. One exception is Holland with predominantly orange outfits
    (after our royal House of Orange, and, conveniently, sponsor Rabobank). So what significance does
    the blue have for Belgium and Germany?



    Australia's national flag is red, white and blue ... So why are their national champion and national
    team jerseys green and gold????

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
    pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti
    ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe
    dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  13. Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Australia's national flag is red, white and blue ... So why are their national champion and
    national team jerseys green and gold????

    I don't know, but those are well-known national colours, like the orange for Holland. I'm sure there
    is an explanation. I never heard of blue having some sort of meaning for Belgium or Germany. For
    example, the Belgian football team plays in red ("Red Devils"😉.

    The blue must be an arbitrary colour, picked to make an original design for standing out
    in the pack.

  14. "Tezza" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Steven L. Sheff wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Australia's national flag is red, white and blue ... So why are their national champion and
    national team jerseys green and gold????
    --

    There are only just so many combinations of red white and blue before designers run out of ides.
    Some years ago Aussies started questioning our close historic and cultural links to Brittain.
    Changing the flag was just too contentious so it remains RW&B (for the moment). Instead, we
    introduced national colours for our sporting teams - Green and Gold. They represent the colour of
    the wattle tree - a very common tree (Acacia species) across Aus. A slightly grey green foliage
    with an abundance of yellow flowers in S.Hemisphere Spring.


    Ah, the great flag debate :-)

    The only thing that annoys me about the Australian national team jersey is that it looks very
    similar to the Australian champion's jersey. I think this year they introduced yellow sleeves for
    the Aussie champion, but that's about the only difference I can pick up. Maybe there are others.
    It's certainly possible to keep the green & gold colours for both the champion's and the national
    team jerseys without making them too similar.

    Jeff

  15. "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Ah, the great flag debate :-)

    The only thing that annoys me about the Australian national team jersey is that it looks very
    similar to the Australian champion's jersey. I think


    this

    Quoted message said:

    year they introduced yellow sleeves for the Aussie champion, but that's about the only difference
    I can pick up. Maybe there are others. It's certainly possible to keep the green & gold colours
    for both the champion's and the national team jerseys without making them too similar.

    Dumbass -

    Look on the bright side. At least your country doesn't give out 500 Masters Fatties jerseys/year
    that look just like the real thing.

  16. Jeff Jones said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only thing that annoys me about the Australian national team jersey is that it looks very
    similar to the Australian champion's jersey. I think


    this

    Quoted message said:

    year they introduced yellow sleeves for the Aussie champion, but that's about the only difference
    I can pick up. Maybe there are others. It's certainly possible to keep the green & gold colours
    for both the champion's and the national team jerseys without making them too similar.



    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbass -

    Look on the bright side. At least your country doesn't give out 500 Masters Fatties jerseys/year
    that look just like the real thing.

    Dumbass,

    What do you mean by 'look like the real thing'; they are the real thing, or even better than the
    real thing.

    Donald 'Living the Dream' Munro

  17. Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Australia's national flag is red, white and blue ... So why are their national champion and
    national team jerseys green and gold????

    I don't know, but those are well-known national colours, like the orange for Holland. I'm sure
    there is an explanation. I never heard of blue having some sort of meaning for Belgium or Germany.
    For example, the Belgian football team plays in red ("Red Devils"😉.

    The blue must be an arbitrary colour, picked to make an original design for standing out in
    the pack.

    Are New Zealand's ALL BLACK?

    That would be cool.

    -Ken

  18. K. J. Papai said:

    Are New Zealand's ALL BLACK?

    New Zealand flag is similar in colour and composition to Australia. Our sporting teams wear largely
    black and/or silver, often with the Silver Fern emblem (native plant).

    I think the national jersey is predominately black with large silver fern this year and the national
    champions jersey (as you may have seen worn by Gordy McCauley on Schroeder Iron) is white with two
    horizontal black stripes.

    The national triathlon/duathlon uniform is mostly black with silver stripes down the sides. It used
    to be silver-grey but that was found to be a little too revealing in places...

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Fred Marx said:
    TritonRider said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Stewart Fleming [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Prussian Blue?

    Now let's see how many machinists we have here? Bill C


    not something one hears about often in the CNC age I'd bet...

    For the most part, you're right. A small bottle of it will last us about ten years, if it doesn't
    dry out first. It does come in handy when working on odd shaped castings, but mostly we use it
    when we reinstall a set of vise or lathe jaws and need to recut them a few thousandths. But a
    Marks-alot felt pen works just as well, really, and is neater and dries faster. A few years ago,
    I worked at a shop where one guy showed up seriously hung over every day. One morning he was
    using the blue to mark some parts and had the cap off. He was asked what time it was and, of
    course, rolled his arm over to look at his watch. He poured most of the bottle of blue onto his
    shirt, pants and tool box. Machine shop comedy at its best...

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We've reached a higher spiritual plane, that is so high I can't explain We tell jokes to make you
    laugh, we play sports so we don't get fat..." The Dictators

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, "Kurgan Gringioni"

    Quoted message said:


    I have an old Bridgeport mill, but I have no idea WTF Prussian Blue is.

    (obviously I'm not steeped in machinist lore)

    It's also known as "Dykem": layout fluid. Easiest way to describe it is very thin, blue (or
    sometimes red) paint. Apply it and let it dry, then scribe layout lines, etc. The lines will be
    easier to see than they would be on raw metal. As was described, it doesn't get a lot of use
    anymore. It is moving into the "lore" category of machining.

    --
    tanx, Howard

    "We've reached a higher spiritual plane, that is so high I can't explain We tell jokes to make you
    laugh, we play sports so we don't get fat..." The Dictators

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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