Which Inner Tubes?

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever since
I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

Thanks

Daz What size tire? Now what size tube you using? I like it pumped up 60 psi. But if all eles fails try a heavy thick tube and use the right size to tire.

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever since
I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi
and rarely pinch flat, even in
very rocky terrain. I've run
everything from performance
tubes borrowed from friends to
the specialized tubes you are
probably using, and never
problems like that. If
anything, your boing should
help you with that.

I think you need to provide
some more detail about your
setup is . . something is amiss.

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.

I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
something is amiss.

Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

Daz said:

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.

I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
something is amiss.

Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

Daz said:

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.

I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
something is amiss.

tom said:

Daz said:

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Daz wrote:
> Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
> since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.
>
> I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
> still happening.
>
> Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
> some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.

I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
something is amiss.

Quoted message said:

Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

I'd be more interested in finding out what kind of trails you're
riding - rock gardens? Roots?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Mark Hickey said:

tom said:

Daz said:

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

>Daz wrote:
>
>>Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
>>since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.
>>
>>I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
>>still happening.
>>
>>Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
>>some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?
>
>That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
>terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
>to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
>that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.
>
>I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
>something is amiss.

Quoted message said:

Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

I'd be more interested in finding out what kind of trails you're
riding - rock gardens? Roots?

I've ridden nasty nasty rocks
for days without the pinch
problems he's describing,
especially at those pressures
.. . if indeed they are pinch
flats.

Quoted message said:

"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.

I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
something is amiss.

Daz said:

Hey all,

I'm riding a Santa Cruz

Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic
x317 disc rims,

Quoted message said:

Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x

2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

Quoted message said:

Try not top-posting.

Are you sure they're pinch
flats? It's really hard to
believe you pinch at that
pressure unless you're taking
enormous drops or the like.

Daz said:

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading that "self-healing"
slime tubes don't work for pinch flats?

There are also extra-think tubes to consider.

You may just have to try some different things. I'm not sure that a lot of
us have had that much problem with pinch flats, and there are guys who
ride in rocky stuff all the time.

--
-BB-
To e-mail me, unmunge my address

cc said:

Mark Hickey said:

tom said:

Daz wrote:

>Hey all,
>
>I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
>Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

Quoted message said:

>"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
>
>>Daz wrote:
>>
>>>Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
>>>since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.
>>>
>>>I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
>>>still happening.
>>>
>>>Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
>>>some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?
>>
>>That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
>>terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
>>to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
>>that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.
>>
>>I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
>>something is amiss.

Quoted message said:

Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

I'd be more interested in finding out what kind of trails you're
riding - rock gardens? Roots?

I've ridden nasty nasty rocks
for days without the pinch
problems he's describing,
especially at those pressures
. . if indeed they are pinch
flats.

Get this, many people aren't scrawny little psuedointellectual dweebs.
Maybe you should get out more and see the World instead of what your
pinched-nose sees on a computer screen all day.

JD

Did you run your fingers all around the inside of the tire to be sure that
there's nothing still sticking in the wall and causing the flats.
--
DTW .../\.../\.../\...

"

Did you run your fingers all around the inside of the tire to be sure that
there's nothing still sticking in the wall and causing the flats. Or is it
a rough edge somewhere on the rim? Do you have a rim tape in there?
--
DTW .../\.../\.../\...

"

Dave The Wave said:

Did you run your fingers all around the inside of the tire to be sure that
there's nothing still sticking in the wall and causing the flats. Or is it
a rough edge somewhere on the rim? Do you have a rim tape in there?

Perhaps he's counting on the double-boing factor to allow him to bash
into and over everything that he used to navigate prudently,
excersising due caution and, employing riding SKILL? It's quite a
common problem, really.

--
Sand Squid
The (29"😉 Single Speed Champion of Kuwait and Iraq.

Sand Squid said:

Dave The Wave said:

Did you run your fingers all around the inside of the tire to be
sure that there's nothing still sticking in the wall and causing
the flats. Or is it a rough edge somewhere on the rim? Do you
have a rim tape in there?

Quoted message said:

Perhaps he's counting on the double-boing factor to allow him to bash
into and over everything that he used to navigate prudently,
excersising due caution and, employing riding SKILL? It's quite a
common problem, really.

Yup, that's what I was thinking. If you're used to unweighting the rear
wheel (as is necessary) with a hardtail and then switch to a fully, then
it's easy to fall in to the "just roll thru it" trap and trash your wheels
if not the bike.

Still, if it's a new bike (too lazy to go look), sometimes a wheel can come
with a burr or a sharp-edged rim strip or whatever that causes flats till
found. Worth checking.

Bill Sornson said:

Sand Squid said:

Dave The Wave said:

Did you run your fingers all around the inside of the tire to be
sure that there's nothing still sticking in the wall and causing
the flats. Or is it a rough edge somewhere on the rim? Do you
have a rim tape in there?

Quoted message said:

Perhaps he's counting on the double-boing factor to allow him to bash
into and over everything that he used to navigate prudently,
excersising due caution and, employing riding SKILL? It's quite a
common problem, really.

Yup, that's what I was thinking. If you're used to unweighting the rear
wheel (as is necessary) with a hardtail and then switch to a fully, then
it's easy to fall in to the "just roll thru it" trap and trash your wheels
if not the bike.

Still, if it's a new bike (too lazy to go look), sometimes a wheel can come
with a burr or a sharp-edged rim strip or whatever that causes flats till
found. Worth checking.

Something that may be obvious, but no one's mentioned yet... perhaps
he's got a slow leak in the tube, and simply isn't feeling the tire go
soft before he snake-bites it.

The last flat I had was a stem failure, which would lose a lot more
air riding than sitting around the house (and was a bear to find after
I removed the tube).

Just a thought...

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Daz said:

Hi,

Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever since
I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.

I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
still happening.

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?

Thanks

Daz

I would check your tires for cuts or separation along the tire bead.
Put like
80 p.s.i. in and see if the tube pokes through a hole.

JD said:

cc said:

Mark Hickey said:

"tom" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Daz wrote:
>
>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>I'm riding a Santa Cruz Heckler with Hope hubs, Mavic x317 disc rims,
>>Panaracer Fire XC Pro 26 x 2.1 tyres and rubbish inner tubes!

>>"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
>>
>>
>>>Daz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Several weeks ago I swapped my hardtail frame for a full sus and ever
>>>>since I've had a flat tyre almost every single time I've been out.
>>>>
>>>>I'm using Specialized tubes inflated to about 50psi but snake bites are
>>>>still happening.
>>>>
>>>>Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best? I've noticed
>>>>some "self healing" ones, heavy but worth it?
>>>
>>>That's insane. I run 35-40psi and rarely pinch flat, even in very rocky
>>>terrain. I've run everything from performance tubes borrowed from friends
>>>to the specialized tubes you are probably using, and never problems like
>>>that. If anything, your boing should help you with that.
>>>
>>>I think you need to provide some more detail about your setup is . .
>>>something is amiss.

>Uh, sorry to get personal, but how much do you weigh, Daz? Tom

I'd be more interested in finding out what kind of trails you're
riding - rock gardens? Roots?

I've ridden nasty nasty rocks
for days without the pinch
problems he's describing,
especially at those pressures
. . if indeed they are pinch
flats.

Get this, many people aren't scrawny little psuedointellectual dweebs.
Maybe you should get out more and see the World instead of what your
pinched-nose sees on a computer screen all day.

WTF is your problem? Do I jump
into your threads and
psychotically taunt you?

This post is on-topic,
relevant, and has nothing to
do with you! Why don't /you/
go ride your bike and STFU?

Daz said:

Any reviews or recommendations on which tubes are the best?

Don't settle for anything less than the best:

http://www.yestubes.com/

cc said:

Why don't /you/ go ride your bike and STFU?

That's funny, coming from the psuedointellectual windbag that you are.

JD