Landis questions

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Steve' h90943@hotmaildotcom said:

This whole Landis positive thing has me confused. Could someone list some
possible, rational, explanations why Landis would have an elevated T/E,
without elevated testosterone and positive for exegenous testosterone ?

The only possibilities that I can think of are; contaminated samples, an
error in administering a testosterone program, or mixing of urine.

Team or doctor bungled his doping regimen. Why else would
he test positive? Have you heard the eleventh commandment?

--
Michael Press

in message <[email hidden]>, Steve

('h90943@hotmaildotcom') said:

This whole Landis positive thing has me confused. Could someone list
some possible, rational, explanations why Landis would have an elevated
T/E,
without elevated testosterone and positive for exegenous testosterone
?

The only possibilities that I can think of are; contaminated samples,
an error in administering a testosterone program, or mixing of urine.

Reduce that to one: an error in administering a testosterone programme.

If someone had tampered with the sample, they could easily have /added/
testosterone, but removing epitestosterone would have been very much
harder. If someone had mixed someone else's urine with Landis', the
result would have a quite different biochemical profile than the samples
collected from Landis two days earlier and two days later.

Tampering doesn't account for this pattern of results.

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Simon Brooke said:

Reduce that to one: an error in administering a testosterone programme.

If someone had tampered with the sample, they could easily have /added/
testosterone, but removing epitestosterone would have been very much
harder. If someone had mixed someone else's urine with Landis', the
result would have a quite different biochemical profile than the samples
collected from Landis two days earlier and two days later.

Tampering doesn't account for this pattern of results.

How about adding water (and testosterone)?

Jeff

There have been reports that his T level was basically normal to the
general population in the test. If his tested E level was
representative of his true natural T level, prior to doping, that seems
to imply that his natural T level was like 1/11th of a "normal" T
level. So he would appear to have doped to a approximately a normal T
level.

Since everybody round here keeps talking about T patches, how long an
application of a T patch would it take to elevate one's T level from
1/11th of normal to normal? How much gel?

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Except reports are that the T-levels were normal, while the E-levels were
abnormally low, hence the unbalanced ratio.

I know Landis has reported the low E but has anyone else confirmed this?

Barnard Frederick schreef:

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wouldn't trust them to test dog [censored], and that is my professional
opinion.

You're a dog show judge?

--
E. Dronkert

Quoted message said:

Team or doctor bungled his doping regimen. Why else would
he test positive? Have you heard the eleventh commandment?

--
Michael Press

Would it be similiar toReagan's 11th commandment ? Thou shall not speak ill
of those injecting me ? Reagan said that thou shall not speak ill of fellow
Republicans, or something to that effect.

in message <[email hidden]>, JessicaG

(') said:

Quoted message said:

Except reports are that the T-levels were normal, while the E-levels
were abnormally low, hence the unbalanced ratio.

I know Landis has reported the low E but has anyone else confirmed
this?

It's what l'Equipe printed only a couple of days after the 'A' test.
Landis' team have, in essence, confirmed the l'Equipe story.

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;; the Worlock

Barnard Frederick said:

Ewoud Dronkert says...

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You're a dog show judge?

I give you a golden opportunity and that's the best you can do?

Hey... my Golden (God rest his soul) was better company than most of my
friends.

Damn... I need another dog or better friends...

Joe

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve' h90943@hotmaildotcom said:

Quoted message said:

Team or doctor bungled his doping regimen. Why else would
he test positive? Have you heard the eleventh commandment?

Would it be similiar toReagan's 11th commandment ? Thou shall not speak ill
of those injecting me ? Reagan said that thou shall not speak ill of fellow
Republicans, or something to that effect.

XI Thou shalt not get caught

--
Michael Press

Steve said:

Quoted message said:

Would it be similiar toReagan's 11th commandment ? Thou shall not speak ill
of those injecting me ? Reagan said that thou shall not speak ill of fellow
Republicans, or something to that effect.

Michael Press said:

XI Thou shalt not get caught

Amendment I: If you do get caught, keep your mouth shut.

Ewoud Dronkert says...

Quoted message said:

You're a dog show judge?

I give you a golden opportunity and that's the best you can do?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve' h90943@hotmaildotcom said:

Quoted message said:

Team or doctor bungled his doping regimen. Why else would
he test positive? Have you heard the eleventh commandment?

Would it be similiar toReagan's 11th commandment ? Thou shall not speak ill
of those injecting me ? Reagan said that thou shall not speak ill of fellow
Republicans, or something to that effect.

XI Thou shalt not get caught

For Nixon, the twelfth is, "When the President does it, that means that it's not
illegal."

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?