Anyway, if his Stage 17 urine sample was so radioactive for exogenous testosterone, why don't they test his other pee samples for the same thing? Surely he gave subsequent samples, especially after the TT. Would that not be better than a B sample ?
Will they be able to scientifically prove that it is indeed his sample, not a "donor".
The lab said that the test is foolproof, a test equipment manufacturer said that there is an margin of error and my common sense says that nobody, or test is foolproof. Damm, he has a hell of a high legal mountain to conquer.
This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write a song about this?
"Steve" <h90943@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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... or is it for the UCI.
Anyway, if his Stage 17 urine sample was so radioactive for exogenous testosterone, why don't they test his other pee samples for the same thing? Surely he gave subsequent samples, especially after the TT. Would that not be better than a B sample ?
Will they be able to scientifically prove that it is indeed his sample, not a "donor".
The lab said that the test is foolproof, a test equipment manufacturer said that there is an margin of error and my common sense says that nobody, or test is foolproof. Damm, he has a hell of a high legal mountain to conquer.
They have already shown that his ratio was hors limits and the exogenous testosterone. What more would retesting the other samples prove? And with the half life of the testosterone, from Landis' POV it could onvy validate what the lab/UCI is claiming.
They have already shown that his ratio was hors limits and the exogenous testosterone. What more would retesting the other samples prove? And with the half life of the testosterone, from Landis' POV it could onvy validate what the lab/UCI is claiming.
If they test the other sampels and find exogenous test., it shows a timeline. If they sample and find normal ratio, it might establish the masking agent.
Anyway, if his Stage 17 urine sample was so radioactive for exogenous testosterone, why don't they test his other pee samples for the same thing? Surely he gave subsequent samples, especially after the TT. Would that not be better than a B sample ?
Will they be able to scientifically prove that it is indeed his sample, not a "donor".
The lab said that the test is foolproof, a test equipment manufacturer said that there is an margin of error and my common sense says that nobody, or test is foolproof. Damm, he has a hell of a high legal mountain to conquer.
This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write a song about this?
This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write a song about this?
Steve
who is David Byrne? i have never heard of him.
David Byrne is the lead singer of the Talking Heads. Surely you've heard of the Talking Heads. If not, look em up. Really good tunes. Though I can't recall the song Steve mentioned.
This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write a song about this?
Steve
who is David Byrne? i have never heard of him.
David Byrne is the lead singer of the Talking Heads. Surely you've heard of the Talking Heads. If not, look em up. Really good tunes. Though I can't recall the song Steve mentioned.
> This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write > a song about this? > > Steve who is David Byrne? i have never heard of him.
David Byrne is the lead singer of the Talking Heads. Surely you've heard of the Talking Heads. If not, look em up. Really good tunes. Though I can't recall the song Steve mentioned.
Linda
"Stop Making Sense"
I think Steve meant "Crosseyed and Painless." Or maybe "Don't Worry About the Government."
Ben
ps. "Stop making sense" is actually a line from the song "Girlfriend is Better." Yes, I am a geek for knowing that.
>> This whole thing does not make sense. Wait, didn't David Byrne write >> a song about this? >> >> Steve > who is David Byrne? i have never heard of him. David Byrne is the lead singer of the Talking Heads. Surely you've heard of the Talking Heads. If not, look em up. Really good tunes. Though I can't recall the song Steve mentioned.
Linda
"Stop Making Sense"
I think Steve meant "Crosseyed and Painless." Or maybe "Don't Worry About the Government."
Ben
ps. "Stop making sense" is actually a line from the song "Girlfriend is Better." Yes, I am a geek for knowing that.
A yeah, they had a live album with that name. Maybe "Drugs"?
[...]
The boys are making a big mess This makes the girls all start to laugh I don't know what they're talking about The boys are worried, the girls are shocked They pick the sound and let it drop Nobody know what they're talking about
I'm charged up...I'm kinda wooden I'm barely moving...I study motion I study myself...I fooled myself I'm charged up...It's pretty intense. I'm charged up...Don't put me down Don't feel like talking...Don't mess around I feel mean...I feel O.K. I'm charged up...Electricity.
"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BrVBg.5295$yO4.1346@dukeread02...
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"Steve" <h90943@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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... or is it for the UCI.
Anyway, if his Stage 17 urine sample was so radioactive for exogenous testosterone, why don't they test his other pee samples for the same thing? Surely he gave subsequent samples, especially after the TT. Would that not be better than a B sample ?
Will they be able to scientifically prove that it is indeed his sample, not a "donor".
The lab said that the test is foolproof, a test equipment manufacturer said that there is an margin of error and my common sense says that nobody, or test is foolproof. Damm, he has a hell of a high legal mountain to conquer.
They have already shown that his ratio was hors limits and the exogenous testosterone. What more would retesting the other samples prove? And with the half life of the testosterone, from Landis' POV it could onvy validate what the lab/UCI is claiming.
Really? Has the lab proved anything? The only thing we know is that the lab (the same lab that refused to cooperate with a UCI audit) has made some accusations. This is the same lab that accused Armstrong of taking EPO in 1999. What credibility does the lab have? Do you believe the lab's accusation agsinst Armstrong also? What more does a lab have to do to lose credibility? Are all cyclists easily imtimidated?
"Stu Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Carl Sundquist said:
They have already shown that his ratio was hors limits and the exogenous testosterone. What more would retesting the other samples prove? And with the half life of the testosterone, from Landis' POV it could onvy validate what the lab/UCI is claiming.
If they test the other sampels and find exogenous test., it shows a timeline. If they sample and find normal ratio, it might establish the masking agent.
If they test all the samples and find exogenous testosterone in only one, the one sample associated with the most newsworthy performanceof the entire TDF, it shows that
1) the LNDD lab tainted that sample. Or 2) Landis purposly tainted himself in order to win, knowing that he would be tested and caught.
"Yves LaDouche" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Stu Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Carl Sundquist said:
They have already shown that his ratio was hors limits and the exogenous testosterone. What more would retesting the other samples prove? And with the half life of the testosterone, from Landis' POV it could onvy validate what the lab/UCI is claiming.
If they test the other sampels and find exogenous test., it shows a timeline. If they sample and find normal ratio, it might establish the masking agent.
If they test all the samples and find exogenous testosterone in only one, the one sample associated with the most newsworthy performanceof the entire TDF, it shows that
1) the LNDD lab tainted that sample. Or 2) Landis purposly tainted himself in order to win, knowing that he would be tested and caught.
Which makes more sense?
3) Landis purposly tainted himself in order to win, thinking he will get away with it.
