According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.
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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
product.
A cocktail we can say.What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
heroin addict? -
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
product.
A cocktail we can say.What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
heroin addict?I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is Chateau
des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.) and
Banyuls.
No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
And you ? -
<Montesquiou> wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
heroin addict?I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
and Banyuls. No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
And you ?Do you expect us to take your word on that?
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not
a heroin addict?I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
and Banyuls. No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
And you ?Do you expect us to take your word on that?
We can ask for a Lab test.
Oh ... Sorry ! -
Montesquiou a écrit :
Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
confirmed...). Any better offers?During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?Alan
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<[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...
Montesquiou a écrit :Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
product.
A cocktail we can say.Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.*** Oh ! Sorry
One of them was french, if you don't mind...
http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le-controle-de-landis-pourrait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htm
*********My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
confirmed...). Any better offers?During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?Alan
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Montesquiou a écrit :
Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
confirmed...). Any better offers?During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?Remind me what the insulin is supposed to do?
Mark J.
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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
<Montesquiou> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
product.
A cocktail we can say.What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
heroin addict?I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
and Banyuls.
No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
And you ?Tom is rumored on the Internet to suffer from alcoholism, just like Greg
Lemond. I think he's just off his meds. -
Montesquiou said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.Source ?
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Quoted message said:
Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.*** Oh ! Sorry
One of them was french, if you don't mind...
http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le-controle-de-landis-pourrait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htmOk, basically the guy doesnt's know squat more than we do, just pure
conjecture..in fact he knows less as he hasn't heard the confirmation
by the UCI that the T is indeed exogeous, so he can forget about his
little THG story ASAP. -
"Keith" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.*** Oh ! Sorry
One of them was french, if you don't mind...
http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le-controle-de-landis-pourrait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htmOk, basically the guy doesnt's know squat more than we do, just pure
conjecture..in fact he knows less as he hasn't heard the confirmation
by the UCI that the T is indeed exogeous, so he can forget about his
little THG story ASAP.By telling " Selon Gérard Dine, si Landis s'est effectivement dopé, il
existe deux scenarii possibles." is informative.
IF Landis was IN FACT doped THEN two possibilities.
For the second possibility "the use of a Drug cocktail can explain".
'Professeur Gérard Dine, médecin et chercheur à l'Institut biotechnologique
de Troyes et expert auprès du CNRS.' -
Montesquiou said:
According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.So, they've finally developed a test for panache.
[censored] Pound will be along to criminalize it in a moment.
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