Re: Front Wheel Replacement

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:09:39 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>

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Ted Bennett said:

« Grìffîñ » wrote:

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Dear Ted,

For $100 plus tax, the original poster can probably wheel a complete
new Next bike out of WalMart in 20 minutes. That gives him an awful lot
of spare parts.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2061606

That link shows my exact bike. Only I paid $139 last October for it.
The Walmart I purchased it from doesn't sell replacement wheels (so they
said when I called)

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What will the bicycle store charge to replace his front wheel and how
long will it take?

Admittedly, WalMart sells bikes without gratuitous insults (and so do
most local bike shops), but those can be obtained for free here at RBT.

Of course, for $53.73 plus tax, he could own a true classic, the Fury
RoadMaster:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1977659

Alas, the Fury no longer appears to come in ominous black like my
model.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

There are no bicycle shops here anymore. They all folded or bellied up.
Your link shows the exact model that I have and it rode like a feather.
I've wrecked it three times..each time the front wheel took the brunt of
the force and warped it into a pretzel. Twice now I've been able to
re-shape it back into something like a wheel, but the third wreck wreaked
havoc to be sure. I was hauling mail when a dog ran out to play chase. I
was too fast to miss the dog. I ran over the mut, ate the asphalt,
slammed into a fire hydrant..two spokes busted clean, and again, another
pretzel. Put my right fore-arm in a cast. Yep.

So I'm having trouble locating an online source for a replacement and I
had hoped I could beckon upon your experiences here.

Thanks again for the help...

Dear Griffin,

Where are you?

With a location, people might be able to point you to bike shop nearer
than you think.

But if you've trashed three front wheels, the front fork may be bent,
or the aluminum frame.

That WalMart link will get that model shipped for about $20 to an
average location, so for $120 you'd have the new bike to ride and the
old bike for spares. If it's in stock at your local WalMart, $98 plus
tax.

Or you could take your wheel and axle to the WalMart and see if it
matches the front wheel of a $53 Fury RoadMaster (or any of the other
bikes on the rack).

Or you could visit a thrift shop and see what kind of used bikes are
available for $10 to $25.

It's true that spare parts for more than tires and tubes are rare at
WalMart, but they sell whole bicycles for less than what a pair of
tubes and tires often cost elsewhere.

The cheapest 26" front wheel from Performance is $85 plus shipping:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/sub_cat.cfm?subcategory_ID=5310&orderby=2&filterby=&view_all=0&searchSize=

The cheapest 26" front non-disk wheel from Nashbar is $100 plus
shipping:
http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1201&category=126&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

No idea if they'd fit your axle and fork.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:09:39 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ted Bennett wrote:
> « Grìffîñ » wrote:

Quoted message said:

Dear Ted,

For $100 plus tax, the original poster can probably wheel a complete
new Next bike out of WalMart in 20 minutes. That gives him an awful lot
of spare parts.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2061606

That link shows my exact bike. Only I paid $139 last October for it.
The Walmart I purchased it from doesn't sell replacement wheels (so they
said when I called)

Quoted message said:

What will the bicycle store charge to replace his front wheel and how
long will it take?

Admittedly, WalMart sells bikes without gratuitous insults (and so do
most local bike shops), but those can be obtained for free here at RBT.

Of course, for $53.73 plus tax, he could own a true classic, the Fury
RoadMaster:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1977659

Alas, the Fury no longer appears to come in ominous black like my
model.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

There are no bicycle shops here anymore. They all folded or bellied up.
Your link shows the exact model that I have and it rode like a feather.
I've wrecked it three times..each time the front wheel took the brunt of
the force and warped it into a pretzel. Twice now I've been able to
re-shape it back into something like a wheel, but the third wreck
wreaked
havoc to be sure. I was hauling mail when a dog ran out to play
chase. I
was too fast to miss the dog. I ran over the mut, ate the asphalt,
slammed into a fire hydrant..two spokes busted clean, and again, another
pretzel. Put my right fore-arm in a cast. Yep.

So I'm having trouble locating an online source for a replacement and I
had hoped I could beckon upon your experiences here.

Thanks again for the help...

Dear Griffin,

Where are you?

With a location, people might be able to point you to bike shop nearer
than you think.

But if you've trashed three front wheels, the front fork may be bent,
or the aluminum frame.

That WalMart link will get that model shipped for about $20 to an
average location, so for $120 you'd have the new bike to ride and the
old bike for spares. If it's in stock at your local WalMart, $98 plus
tax.

Or you could take your wheel and axle to the WalMart and see if it
matches the front wheel of a $53 Fury RoadMaster (or any of the other
bikes on the rack).

Or you could visit a thrift shop and see what kind of used bikes are
available for $10 to $25.

It's true that spare parts for more than tires and tubes are rare at
WalMart, but they sell whole bicycles for less than what a pair of
tubes and tires often cost elsewhere.

The cheapest 26" front wheel from Performance is $85 plus shipping:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/sub_cat.cfm?subcategory_ID=5310&orderby=2&filterby=&view_all=0&searchSize=

The cheapest 26" front non-disk wheel from Nashbar is $100 plus
shipping:
http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?subcategory=1201&category=126&browse=&storetype=&estoreid=&brand=&searchbox=&start=1&orderby=price1&pagename=

No idea if they'd fit your axle and fork.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Yeh..I checked Performance before I posted the SOS. And you're right, I
could just pick up another and have parts. And I wasn't ready to cut my
wrists by purchasing 100 bucks worth of 'rims' that cost as much as a
replacement =\

The forks are fine. If I knew someone with a press-brake, I could do a
better job of trueing up the wheel.

But, as it goes, I have a neighbor that gave me a 26 inch wheel. It's not
out-of-round and all appears okay. Upon the first ride, it had a
noticable 'bump' in its rotation, with the feedback traveling up the
forks, through the shockers, on up to my wrists. I thought that the
bearings were bad, or maybe a bearing was frozen or just gone. I took the
axle out and the all the bearings looked good, save the absence of grease.
I couldn't determine the source of the bump. I needed more coffee with a
cigarette and put my engineer's cap on.

Thanks abunch for the help.
--

.... Save The Planet For Another Day -

Off topic-

I'm almost 6'2", teetering 'round 200# and money is tight these days.
Walmart is my closest bike source. I would have preferred a larger frame
with 29" wheels. I just need a comfortable ride with descent ergonomics on
a thin wallet.

But I'm tweaked by the Fury link you provided. Any comments on its
ride/durability.

Slamming dogs, curbs and fire hydrants isn't my normal riding
behaviour.....crusing at a good clip is, though =)

« Grìffîñ » said:

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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:09:39 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>
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But, as it goes, I have a neighbor that gave me a 26 inch wheel. It's not
out-of-round and all appears okay. Upon the first ride, it had a
noticable 'bump' in its rotation, with the feedback traveling up the
forks, through the shockers, on up to my wrists. I thought that the
bearings were bad, or maybe a bearing was frozen or just gone. I took the
axle out and the all the bearings looked good, save the absence of grease.
I couldn't determine the source of the bump. I needed more coffee with a
cigarette and put my engineer's cap on.

Thanks abunch for the help.
--

A noticeable bump when the wheel was rotating?

Hmmmm, not sure what you mean.

Is the tire evenly seated all the way aroung the rim?

Doesthe sidewall protrude and hit the brake?

When you hold the front wheel off the ground and give it a spin does it
slowly come to a stop or does it suddenly stop? The latter is
indicative of overly tight bearing cones.

If none of these could you describe the bump like where or when it
happens?

Peter

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:20:29 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Off topic-

I'm almost 6'2", teetering 'round 200# and money is tight these days.
Walmart is my closest bike source. I would have preferred a larger frame
with 29" wheels. I just need a comfortable ride with descent ergonomics on
a thin wallet.

But I'm tweaked by the Fury link you provided. Any comments on its
ride/durability.

Slamming dogs, curbs and fire hydrants isn't my normal riding
behaviour.....crusing at a good clip is, though =)

Dear Griffin,

Endless comments here:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/8d7200c0d5ed8733

Briefly, the Fury RoadMaster worked fine for over a thousand miles of
4 mile laps at speed, simulating what a 195-lb kid commuting back and
forth to school would have done.

The single mechanical failure was a mysterious rear flat on the rim
side of the tube.

For under $60, it would be silly to complain.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

Sir Ridesalot said:

« Grìffîñ » said:

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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:09:39 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>
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A noticeable bump when the wheel was rotating?

Hmmmm, not sure what you mean.

Is the tire evenly seated all the way aroung the rim?

Doesthe sidewall protrude and hit the brake?

When you hold the front wheel off the ground and give it a spin does it
slowly come to a stop or does it suddenly stop? The latter is
indicative of overly tight bearing cones.

If none of these could you describe the bump like where or when it
happens?

Peter

This tire was out in their backyard against the shed. It's fairly
weathered, so to speak, but not a total loss.

[..Laughing part comes now-]

I swapped over my tire, tube and liner, aired up which revealed I didn't
pinch/cut the tube.

Test drive revealed a bump as the tire rotated (me riding)...this 'bump'
timing was linear through the tire's rotation...ie- faster speeds, faster
bumps..slower speeds.....

The wheel/sidewalls don't touch the brake pads, double-checked that during
the mounting.
After I re-assembled the axle (checking the bearing conditions) with some
lithium grease and WD-40, the wheel spins like a top on steroids, taking
measures to be sure clearances were at a minimum at the seals (beveled
nuts that cover the bearings, for lack of a better word)....

The only thing I'm not sure how to rule out is if the tire is evenly
seated about the wheel. From close inspection, all looks and feels
normal, looking closely around the sidewalls.

And this "Fury" Roadmaster is available at Walmart?...Holy [censored], Batman.
A thousand miles for the price is more than any sane person should ask for
these days. Thanks for the tip, BigTime.

--

.... Save The Planet For Another Day -

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:20:29 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Off topic-

I'm almost 6'2", teetering 'round 200# and money is tight these days.
Walmart is my closest bike source. I would have preferred a larger frame
with 29" wheels. I just need a comfortable ride with descent ergonomics on
a thin wallet.

You don't want 29". Larger wheels are bad, or at least not particularly
good for large weights (although, tbh, I'm an awful lot heavier than you,
you could certainly use a standard 622-rim-diameter (29"😉, 36 spoke wheel
without worrying about it collapsing). For a given number of spokes, a
larger rim will make for a weaker wheel. 36 spoke MTB/26-7 inch wheels,
fitted out with slick/semi-slick tires (or at least Not Knobblies) for
road use, are pretty close to bombproof. Hit a kerb or pothole hard enough
and you'll still dent the rim or get a snakebite flat, but Don't Do That
Then.

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But I'm tweaked by the Fury link you provided. Any comments on its
ride/durability.

Not much of either, but what d'you expect for 60 bucks for an entire bike.
It'll get you to the shops and back, and even probably for longer periods.

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Slamming dogs, curbs and fire hydrants isn't my normal riding
behaviour.....crusing at a good clip is, though =)

Well, then you definitely don't want knobbies.

Jasper

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:03:50 GMT, « Grìffîñ » <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

But, as it goes, I have a neighbor that gave me a 26 inch wheel. It's not
out-of-round and all appears okay. Upon the first ride, it had a
noticable 'bump' in its rotation, with the feedback traveling up the
forks, through the shockers, on up to my wrists. I thought that the
bearings were bad, or maybe a bearing was frozen or just gone. I took the
axle out and the all the bearings looked good, save the absence of grease.
I couldn't determine the source of the bump. I needed more coffee with a
cigarette and put my engineer's cap on.

It's usually the tire telling you it's going bad.

Jasper