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  1. hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

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  2. Quoted message said:

    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

    Sustained Energy is virtually tasteless.

    Perpetuum has a subtle taste, and is arguably better for long distance
    riding because of the added protein.

    YMMV,

    Chris Neary
    [email hidden]

    "Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could
    you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I
    loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

  3. M. Bakunin said:

    hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

    I've used my own concotion of soy powder, oat powder and water and/or
    lactose reduced milk with good results (have to shake it often...). I
    haven't experiemented that much however, and virtually not at all in
    hot weather. I like using my own concoction because I can regulate the
    balance of carbos and protein.

    I've also used watered down plain yogurt.

    I have not done any multiple-day rides, so I don't know what the
    long-term effects of such a diet would be. I started experimenting
    because I too dislike the sweet taste and carbo-heavy type of mixes
    I've seen.

    Joseph

  4. M. Bakunin said:

    hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

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    I just put a concentrated gatorade powder mix in my water bottles, and
    use a camelbak with water only. I only need to take a swig or two every
    hour of the gatorade mix and sip the water regularily. Taste is
    superfluous, it just keeps me rolling.

  5. "M. Bakunin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

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    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.
    Looking at the ingredients and nutrients in the Soy based powder, they
    pretty much have it all in there already.
    Gatoraid Powder Mix too.
    If you need to travel light, and you have water stops along the way you know
    of, I simply carry the powder mixes and use the stuff when I make the water
    stops or breaks.
    When I go it alone, I have a hybration backpack and a couple of water
    bottles. The water bottles get the protein drink and gatoraid stuff. I keep
    only water in the Cameback.
    If you have a support crew team, they take care of it all for you and you
    can go extra light then.

  6. "M. Bakunin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

    Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY **
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    http://www.usenet.com

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.
    Looking at the ingredients and nutrients in the Soy based powder, they
    pretty much have it all in there already.
    Gatoraid Powder Mix too.
    If you need to travel light, and you have water stops along the way you know
    of, I simply carry the powder mixes and use the stuff when I make the water
    stops or breaks.
    When I go it alone, I have a hybration backpack and a couple of water
    bottles. The water bottles get the protein drink and gatoraid stuff. I keep
    only water in the Cameback.
    If you have a support crew team, they take care of it all for you and you
    can go extra light then.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Earl Bollinger said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.

    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Earl Bollinger said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.

    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

  9. M. Bakunin said:


    Quoted message said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.

    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

    "SOOOOOYEEEEE!"

  10. gds said:


    M. Bakunin said:


    Quoted message said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly


    beacause it

    Quoted message said:

    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.


    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    --
    Bob in CT

  11. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    Eating it is bad for you.

    --
    fnood fneep gnip gnop
    http://greep.flood.nit
    [email hidden]

  12. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:25:01 -0400, Kevan Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    Eating it is bad for you.

    News to me, as I'm on a low carb diet and eat cholesterol all the time.
    My normal breakfast is three eggs and ham and/or bacon. Bring on the
    cholesterol and healthy saturated fat!

    --
    Bob in CT

  13. Bob in CT said:
    gds said:


    M. Bakunin said:


    > I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly
    beacause it
    > is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    > cholesterol in it.

    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    --Bob in CT

    I eat junk and ride and my total Cholesterol is only 201, so what's the
    big deal? For energy, it is Sugar, period, the Protein can come later. I
    carry a bottle or 2 of pancake syrup and chug it when I know I will need
    a boost in about 5 or 10 minutes. Works great. Followed by water or
    course since I can stand only so much sweet. BTW, it is high Fructose
    corn syrup, not plain table sugar, found in almost everything these
    days. More sweet per dollar for the industry.
    Bill Baka
    Don't forget the salt and Potassium.

  14. Bob in CT said:

    On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:25:01 -0400, Kevan Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    Eating it is bad for you.

    News to me, as I'm on a low carb diet and eat cholesterol all the time.
    My normal breakfast is three eggs and ham and/or bacon. Bring on the
    cholesterol and healthy saturated fat!

    --
    Bob in CT

    Like most health info the answer isn't the same for everyone.
    For most folks ~80% of serum cholestrol is metabolized (manufactored)
    by the body.. So, diet is not the main contributer.
    Thus, for most folks, absent other risk factors, a diet which includes
    cholestrol in reasonable amounts poses little problem.
    However, for folks with serious risk factors even small amounts of
    "extra" cholestrol can lead to problems.

    Many societes have diets which are pretty rich in fat/cholestrol and
    still have better health indicators than others with lower
    fat/cholestrol intake. Almost uniformly these societies also have less
    sedentary populations and less obesity. In the end ehalth status is
    linked to lots of variables and most data show that one need not be
    extreme in attacking any single variable to achieve good results.

  15. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Kevan Smith said:

    "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    What's wrong with cholesterol?

    Eating it is bad for you.

    News to me ....

    Wow! Have you been living in a cave for the past 20 years?

    --
    fnood fneep gnip gnop
    http://greep.flood.nit
    [email hidden]

  16. gds said:


    Bob in CT said:

    On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:25:01 -0400, Kevan Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    > What's wrong with cholesterol?

    Eating it is bad for you.

    News to me, as I'm on a low carb diet and eat cholesterol all the time.
    My normal breakfast is three eggs and ham and/or bacon. Bring on the
    cholesterol and healthy saturated fat!

    --
    Bob in CT

    Like most health info the answer isn't the same for everyone.
    For most folks ~80% of serum cholestrol is metabolized (manufactored)
    by the body.. So, diet is not the main contributer.
    Thus, for most folks, absent other risk factors, a diet which includes
    cholestrol in reasonable amounts poses little problem.
    However, for folks with serious risk factors even small amounts of
    "extra" cholestrol can lead to problems.

    Many societes have diets which are pretty rich in fat/cholestrol and
    still have better health indicators than others with lower
    fat/cholestrol intake. Almost uniformly these societies also have less
    sedentary populations and less obesity. In the end ehalth status is
    linked to lots of variables and most data show that one need not be
    extreme in attacking any single variable to achieve good results.

    The never disproven theory of Dr. Atkins is that a high fat diet is
    converted to bad cholesterol and plaque in the presence of some level
    (I can't recall how much) of carbohydrates.

    When I was on Atkins it was a riot to hear people tell me how
    unhealthy it must be. After quizzing them on what they ate during a
    normal day, usually it included huge amounts of fat, I discovered they
    were already /on/ Atkins, only eating all the [censored] with it. Take a
    guess how many grams of fat are in a Bloomin' Onion at Outback? 153.

  17. "M. Bakunin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Earl Bollinger said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause
    it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.

    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

    I think it depends on the store, but the big jug is usually called "Genisoy
    unflavored soy protein powder ", there are also some vanilla and chocolate
    flavored versions too.
    Spring Valley Brand has some smaller cans of the powder too. The last time I
    bought a big jug of the powder it cost like $17.00 US. For me the stuff
    lasts a long time.
    Check out the vitamin nutrition section, the dieting and the health food
    suppliment sections. The jars, cans or bottles have a huge SOY word
    prominnently located on the labels.
    One can make a pretty good fruit smoothie or breakfast shake like drink
    using fruit you like and a one or two of scoops of the soy powder.
    SILK brand soy milk works good too.

  18. Earl Bollinger said:

    "M. Bakunin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Earl Bollinger said:

    I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause
    it
    is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    cholesterol in it.


    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

    I think it depends on the store, but the big jug is usually called "Genisoy
    unflavored soy protein powder ", there are also some vanilla and chocolate
    flavored versions too.
    Spring Valley Brand has some smaller cans of the powder too. The last time I
    bought a big jug of the powder it cost like $17.00 US. For me the stuff
    lasts a long time.
    Check out the vitamin nutrition section, the dieting and the health food
    suppliment sections. The jars, cans or bottles have a huge SOY word
    prominnently located on the labels.
    One can make a pretty good fruit smoothie or breakfast shake like drink
    using fruit you like and a one or two of scoops of the soy powder.
    SILK brand soy milk works good too.


    I am sooo with you on soy. I take at least a half gallon of chocolate
    soy in a thermos type container in addition to my water, O.J., and
    whatever other fluids I take but the soy is my favorite. My wife buys me
    half gallons with a screw on pour spout and I just pour it into my
    thermos jug, which fits nicely in my Phred saddle rack on the back. With
    3 water bottles and the soy, plus an ice chest of food in the other
    saddle rack I am good for about 9 hours or out door go anywhere fun.
    Cheers,
    Bill Baka

  19. On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:03:48 GMT, Bill Baka <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Earl Bollinger said:

    "M. Bakunin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Earl Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I use a Soy based protein powder mix I get at Wal-mart. Mainly beacause
    > it
    > is easier to digest than milk based products, and it doesn't have
    > cholesterol in it.
    Could you tell us how is it called?
    Thanks.

    I think it depends on the store, but the big jug is usually called "Genisoy
    unflavored soy protein powder ", there are also some vanilla and chocolate
    flavored versions too.
    Spring Valley Brand has some smaller cans of the powder too. The last time I
    bought a big jug of the powder it cost like $17.00 US. For me the stuff
    lasts a long time.
    Check out the vitamin nutrition section, the dieting and the health food
    suppliment sections. The jars, cans or bottles have a huge SOY word
    prominnently located on the labels.
    One can make a pretty good fruit smoothie or breakfast shake like drink
    using fruit you like and a one or two of scoops of the soy powder.
    SILK brand soy milk works good too.


    I am sooo with you on soy. I take at least a half gallon of chocolate
    soy in a thermos type container in addition to my water, O.J., and
    whatever other fluids I take but the soy is my favorite. My wife buys me
    half gallons with a screw on pour spout and I just pour it into my
    thermos jug, which fits nicely in my Phred saddle rack on the back. With
    3 water bottles and the soy, plus an ice chest of food in the other
    saddle rack I am good for about 9 hours or out door go anywhere fun.
    Cheers,
    Bill Baka

    Nine hours on the bike.

    Bwaaaaaahahahahahaha......!

    (Alright, I forgot, it's Planet Baka; Population: 1)

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    M. Bakunin said:

    hello out there,
    was reading on various websites, including ultracycling, about food
    taken during long rides: double-centuries, etc... and there is a case
    made for eating 'liquid' food instead of solid, for various reasons well
    explained.
    my question is: do you, long distance riders, could point me to a
    source/brand/type of liquid food that is not sweet or goopy? which
    provides what 's needed but doesn't leave the aftertaste and impression
    you just gulped a a quart of maple syrup mixed with i don't know what
    sticky stuff? and obviously give the needed nutrients...

    Shoot, I thought this was gonna be about beer (liquid bread.)

    Maybe de-alcoholized beer has something going for it as a
    source of on-the-fly nutrition & energy?

    cheers,
    Tom

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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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