Gonchar

Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

Joseph

He has a prety good record in the Giro.

But it was refreshing to see a historic TT specialist winning bck his bread
and butter. It seems that finally the times of the cross-over specialists
are all gone after Operacion Puerto ( read alert on Cunego, though!! 🙂.

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Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

Joseph

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Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

He was a very happy bunny on the podium again, which is refreshing to
see. But yes, the man's a monster. Looks about as ungainly and
uncomfortable on a time trial bike as it's possible to be, but if it
works, don't knock it. Mind you, his nose certainly breaks UCI
regulations on fairings...

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Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

Now you've gone and done it. Robert will have to publish a couple of charts.

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Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

IFYPFY.

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>,

(') said:

Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

He was a very happy bunny on the podium again, which is refreshing to
see. But yes, the man's a monster. Looks about as ungainly and
uncomfortable on a time trial bike as it's possible to be, but if it
works, don't knock it. Mind you, his nose certainly breaks UCI
regulations on fairings...

It was funny listening to the Norwegian Eurosport commentator talk
rubbish about how spinning a high cadence is preferable because it
inhibits lactic acid build up. Cut to video if Gonchar churning about
40 rpm and clobbering everyone. Again.

Joseph

Simon Brooke said:

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(') said:

Robert Chung said:

Yikes.

Why doesn't he do better overall? He's obviously monster strong, not
over-extended after 3 weeks and isn't any heavier than the others.

He was a very happy bunny on the podium again, which is refreshing to
see. But yes, the man's a monster. Looks about as ungainly and
uncomfortable on a time trial bike as it's possible to be, but if it
works, don't knock it. Mind you, his nose certainly breaks UCI
regulations on fairings...

I never got to see Indurain in action - how does Gonchar's stance on the
bike compare with his position?

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I never got to see Indurain in action - how does Gonchar's stance on the
bike compare with his position?

If you do a Google image search on Indurain, a metric buttload of shots of him on
TT bikes will turn up. Granted, sometimes it's hard to really compare because
Indurain rode some very odd looking bikes compared with what they're riding now.

One thing's certain - Miguel Indurain never responded to winning a stage like
this:

<http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour0
619/DV96059>

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It was funny listening to the Norwegian Eurosport commentator talk
rubbish about how spinning a high cadence is preferable because it
inhibits lactic acid build up. Cut to video if Gonchar churning about
40 rpm and clobbering everyone. Again.

I'm one of those people whose legs burn up if I pedal (hard) at any
cadence less than about 80. What is it that allows some riders to pedal
super-slow for such a long time?

/Robert

Robert said:

I'm one of those people whose legs burn up if I pedal (hard) at any
cadence less than about 80. What is it that allows some riders to pedal
super-slow for such a long time?

/Robert

Cadence is a red herring.

Robert said:

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Quoted message said:

It was funny listening to the Norwegian Eurosport commentator talk
rubbish about how spinning a high cadence is preferable because it
inhibits lactic acid build up. Cut to video if Gonchar churning about
40 rpm and clobbering everyone. Again.

I'm one of those people whose legs burn up if I pedal (hard) at any
cadence less than about 80. What is it that allows some riders to pedal
super-slow for such a long time?

/Robert

And I am the opposite. There are so many factors that it is probably
impossible to answer. One thing that is for sure is there is a large
range with no right or wrong way in general.

Joseph

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

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Quoted message said:

It was funny listening to the Norwegian Eurosport commentator talk
rubbish about how spinning a high cadence is preferable because it
inhibits lactic acid build up. Cut to video if Gonchar churning about
40 rpm and clobbering everyone. Again.

I'm one of those people whose legs burn up if I pedal (hard) at any
cadence less than about 80. What is it that allows some riders to pedal
super-slow for such a long time?

/Robert

Alex said:

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

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Could be that T-Mobile got a good contract on a lifetime supply of 56T
rings and picked only riders that were capable of using them up ;-)

/Robert

Alex said:

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

Notorious ? Does that imply there's something wrong with such a style ?

Donald Munro said:

Alex said:

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

Notorious ? Does that imply there's something wrong with such a style ?

Lance spins and Lance wins. So spinning is good right? I have an
entirely baseless theory that one of the reasons spinning helped Lance
was training like that helped him keep his muscle mass down to stay
lighter, and since he trained like that, he raced like that. In Oslo at
the World Championships he sure was buff. I saw it live but I didn't
pay any attention to cadence. What sort of cadence did he use in the
old days?

Joseph

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Lance spins and Lance wins. So spinning is good right? I have an
entirely baseless theory that one of the reasons spinning helped Lance
was training like that helped him keep his muscle mass down to stay
lighter, and since he trained like that, he raced like that. In Oslo at
the World Championships he sure was buff. I saw it live but I didn't
pay any attention to cadence. What sort of cadence did he use in the
old days?

I saw a video of that race, and he seemed to use a normal cadence for
a classics-riding pro.

I watched him first-hand in his second-to-last amateur road race and
noticed he was using a pretty low cadence early in the race -- but
nothing was going on and he seemed to just not bother shifting down so
much on the hills. I didn't see what he was doing later to in the
race -- he was up the road.

JT

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Alex said:

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

Notorious ? Does that imply there's something wrong with such a style ?

No. I meant generally known and talked of.

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Alex said:

It seems that T-Mobile likes (used to like) low cadence cyclists:
Gontchar, Sevilla and Ullrich are notorious examples.

Notorious ? Does that imply there's something wrong with such a style ?

No. I meant generally known and talked of.

That would be "notable" or "noted."

Ron

Robert said:

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Quoted message said:

It was funny listening to the Norwegian Eurosport commentator talk
rubbish about how spinning a high cadence is preferable because it
inhibits lactic acid build up. Cut to video if Gonchar churning about
40 rpm and clobbering everyone. Again.

I'm one of those people whose legs burn up if I pedal (hard) at any
cadence less than about 80. What is it that allows some riders to pedal
super-slow for such a long time?

/Robert

I can hardly even keep my cadence above 90, but that might be just poor
technique rather than a natural proclivity. I definitely do ride
strongest at 70-80 rpm.