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  1. I've just been reading the 100 mile riders thread. Now I have 2 goals -
    next year the Manchester-Blackpool ride. And after that 100 miles in a
    day. So I was wondering what kind of seats you use when you ride these
    distances? Does everyone have an air seat?

    Thanks.

    Cathy

    Ps I don't mean 'after that' as in on the same day. Just incase you
    thought I was being silly.

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  2. try a gel, try an angle, try custom foam, and try air... its the only
    way to know exactly whats best for your bum as eveyone has a different
    one.

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  3. I'd need an armchair grafted atop the seatpost before I would consider
    100 miles in a day. Initially that was mean't as a joke, but on
    reflection: do we really have the best seat designs?

    Nao

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  4. The design that both 'Lars Clausen'
    (http://www.straightintogayamerica.com/) & 'Gracie Sorbello'
    (http://onewheelforlife.blogspot.com/) use is described as follows.
    ... all I know is that long distance cyclists love this seat.
    It's a sewn cover around a 12" inner tube, totally wrapped in polar
    fleece to avoid abrasions and wearing of the tube. You can try it out
    with a 12" wrapped tube, inflated to firm, and then for starters, just
    duct tape it to your seat. Let me know what you think after your next
    30 mile ride. Lars

    Thanks to the input of Lars Clausen and Keith Cash,
    one-wheelers who have done the coast-to-coast gig, I was able to put
    together an amazingly comfortable seat; the phrase "I feel your pain"
    had returned to its literal meaning. Gracie
    Appearently, this is the design that doesn't make long
    distance riders end their day in tears :o

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  5. Naomi said:

    I'd need an armchair grafted atop the seatpost before I would consider
    100 miles in a day.

    I really consider this a good idea (specially the "arms" of the
    armchair: there were previous attempt at this and I consider those
    design could be enhanced)

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  6. What muzzle said.

    Personally I woudn't ride an airseat for any sort of distance.

    I use a carbon KH/Fusion with cut down foam and either a GB or Std KH
    handle. Works great. But I think a gel in the same configuration
    would be even better.

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  7. I'm convinced that one's weight has something to do with it. I've been
    riding days a week now for a number of months and I still get sore ( I
    call it "hot sack"😉 after about 10 miles. Actually I feel
    uncomfortable at about 5 miles and take a few minute break then get
    back on. When i get near 10 I'm looking for the shortest route home.
    I've tried repositioning the seat, different bike shorts, and other
    little tidbits but none of it has amounted to much. The only thing I
    haven't tried yet is chamois cream and it's only because I'm in doubt
    of it's ability as the "miracle cure".

    Being a very heavy lad in the sport of unicycling I'm beginning to
    think that there may be excessive downward force into the seat which is
    my primary issue, so I'm going to go down that route and start a
    distance vs weight chart for myself. I figure it wont hurt none and
    I'll benefit from the loss anyway. We'll let you know how it goes.

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  8. The problem is more often to do with chaffing and stretching of the skin
    than just the weight on the sit bones. I ride quite long distances on
    a standard Miyata. I did 55 miles in a long day last year, and found
    that removing my shorts and only wearing my cycling longs helped
    everything to er... fall into place more comfortably.

    So put some thought into what you wear, and how you sit.

    And remember, it's a game, not an endurance test.

    Good luck with your two objectives, Cathwood. The hardest part of a
    long ride is sometimes finding a worthwhile and safe route that's long
    enough.

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  9. I use a standard velo/kh seat. Not perfect, but the best available right
    now. An airseat is not ideal as it tends to evenly distribute pressure,
    which for guys is not a good thing in some areas. Might be a different
    consensus among women. However, you could use some tape on an airseat
    to fix some of the tube to specific areas and make it have less
    pressure in some areas.

    Butt butter does help prevent rubbing, whether it's lube from the
    family planning section of your local store, or cycling specific cream
    from a bike shop.

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  10. Mikefule said:

    The problem is more often to do with chaffing and stretching of the skin
    than just the weight on the sit bones. I ride quite long distances on
    a standard Miyata. I did 55 miles in a long day last year, and found
    that removing my shorts and only wearing my cycling longs helped
    everything to er... fall into place more comfortably.

    So put some thought into what you wear, and how you sit.

    Good luck with your two objectives, Cathwood. The hardest part of a
    long ride is sometimes finding a worthwhile and safe route that's long
    enough.

    I don't have a problem with chaffing, perhaps it's a girlie thing, or
    perhaps I've never ridden far enough.

    I have been researching cycle shorts for a while now and found a pair
    that fit fantastic and have really good padding. I bought the 2 pairs
    that were on sale in the cycle shop.

    You're right about the route. Even thinking about where I could go on a
    40 mile ride is difficult (I don't like riding on actual roads, even on
    my bike).

    Actually I find my gel saddle quite comfortable and feel that with
    practice and the slightly shorter cranks, I will be able to ride
    further on it before I have to walk briskly for a few yards to let the
    blood reach the parts that it doesn't reach when I'm riding.

    Trapper - I'm also not a particularly slender unicyclist. Still,
    perhaps if I manage my long distances, I will become more slender
    (although no sign of it so far).

    So - distance training, speed training and saddle training.

    Cathy

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  11. cathwood said:

    I don't have a problem with chaffing, perhaps it's a girlie thing, or
    perhaps I've never ridden far enough.

    I've never had a problem with chafing; I've tried Butt Butt'r but I
    can't say I actually noticed any effect. I find it's just a problem of
    weight on places that weren't designed to have weight put on them for
    long periods of time. The curved design of KH seats doesn't seem to
    help the distribution of weight in a comfy manner.

    After Rob's post about seat angles I think my next ride is going to be
    an experimental one to try out different angles; I have mine set back
    as far as it will go, thinking that the flatter rear will provide more
    support, but maybe it's not as simple as that.

    Phil

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  12. Try shorter cranks for less chafing too

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  13. I remember in another thread there was mention of cutting a groove in kh
    seats.

    I was thinking of trying this as I have found that certain pants that
    have a more defined seam in the crotch tend to give me more pain more
    quickly, but if I had a groove that would probably eliminate that and
    generaly relieve my urethra of pressure.

    Does anyone know the dimentions and correct location of this groove? I
    want to do it but I don't want to be hacking up a pretty Gel seat.

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  14. I have a few pictures of my channeled KH seat in my gallery.
    http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat
    or
    http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery/?g2_itemId=140776
    Scroll down to the bottom.

    I believe the next generation of KH Fusion seats are going to have a
    molded in channel and also be dual density foam. When those come out
    I'll likely get one and try the same style of seat mod as my exiting KH
    seat mod (cutting a wedge out of the front).

    I like my modified KH seat for Coker riding. I'm able to handle more
    saddle time than with my air seat. I found the air seat to be more
    comfortable for short rides (less than 10 miles). But for longer rides
    the modified foam seat gives me more saddle time.

    I'm still not able to do 30+ mile rides in comfort. I'll have to play
    around with some more ideas. I just tilted my saddle up one more notch
    and I'll see how that changes things. I'm thinking about doing a 30 -
    40 mile ride tomorrow.

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  15. Trapper said:

    ...I still get sore ( I call it "hot sack"😉 after about 10 miles.
    Actually I feel uncomfortable at about 5 miles and take a few minute
    break then get back on. When i get near 10 I'm looking for the shortest
    route home. I've tried repositioning the seat, different bike shorts,
    and other little tidbits but none of it has amounted to much.

    don't you have the $500 scott wallis road relief saddle??

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  16. boo radley said:

    don't you have the $500 scott wallis road relief saddle??

    Yes, he does (but the saddles themselves aren't $500). I need to get
    that boy over here and see what his problem is.😉
    There are a lot of variables and it can be difficult to get them sorted
    out. And, some people will be sensitive to the pressure that unicyling
    puts on their crotch and sitbones no matter what seat they use. From
    his description it sounds like more of a friction/chaffing issue than
    pressure. But, Trapper doesn't give up so I am sure he will work
    through the discomfort issues and start achieving his mileage goals.

    Scott

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  17. I think that it's highly unlikely there will ever be seats designed for
    women.

    Cathy

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  18. Does anyone else use Assos cream for long rides? I find it pretty good
    but then I've never used butt butt'r. Is there anyone about who can
    give a comparison?

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  19. cathwood said:

    I think that it's highly unlikely there will ever be seats designed for
    women.

    That's probably because women are better designed for (unicycle) seats
    than men are.😄

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  20. S_Wallis said:

    Yes, he does (but the saddles themselves aren't $500). I need to get
    that boy over here and see what his problem is.😉
    There are a lot of variables and it can be difficult to get them sorted
    out. And, some people will be sensitive to the pressure that unicyling
    puts on their crotch and sitbones no matter what seat they use. From
    his description it sounds like more of a friction/chaffing issue than
    pressure. But, Trapper doesn't give up so I am sure he will work
    through the discomfort issues and start achieving his mileage goals.

    Scott

    Yeah, what he said. 🙂 I'll find the answer. It'll just take some
    time.

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