Brake bolt threading

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

M6 - 6mm diameter, 1mm pitch

Jeff

JeffWills said:

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

M6 - 6mm diameter, 1mm pitch

Jeff

Thanks brothah! My local hardware store, the venerable Cumberland
Hardware, will have the stainless bits I need. If you're ever in town,
you have to check them out. Outstanding service. about 100 years old,
and they have hardware store cats you can pick up and snuggle with
while you're asking Mister John about faucet valves.

http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/9325303/nashville_tn/cumberland_hardware_co.html

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
normal front brake with allen key nut.

Zog The Undeniable said:

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

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David L. Johnson said:

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

landotter wrote:

> Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
> this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
> recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
> with the nut inside the fork routine.
>
Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

It's the rear that poses the problem. It's just a round tube with
holes, no brazed on flats. I should be good to go if I use the thick
rounded washers from the original and stay nutted, but trying to drill
out a thick aluminum washer w/o a bench vise is intimidating. ;-)

landotter said:

It's the rear that poses the problem.

Family newsgroup, buddy.

(OK, now I'll go change it back. <eg> )

landotter said:

JeffWills said:

landotter said:

Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
with the nut inside the fork routine.

M6 - 6mm diameter, 1mm pitch

Jeff

Thanks brothah! My local hardware store, the venerable Cumberland
Hardware, will have the stainless bits I need. If you're ever in town,
you have to check them out. Outstanding service. about 100 years old,
and they have hardware store cats you can pick up and snuggle with
while you're asking Mister John about faucet valves.

http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/9325303/nashville_tn/cumberland_hardware_co.html

I might have to do that- although my cats will get jealous of me
canoodling with strange felines. FWIW: if I'm shopping for odd
hardware, I go to Parkrose: http://www.parkrosehardware.com/ . They've
lots of neat stuff, even nylon screws and wingnuts for attaching the
fairing to my Easy Racer.

Jeff

David L. Johnson said:

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

landotter wrote:

> Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
> this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
> recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
> with the nut inside the fork routine.
>
Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

I drilled the whole shebang out and everything just worked. Took an
hour and walks all over the old 600 side pulls. $20 for front and read,
by far the most rediculously effective upgrade I've ever done for the
money.

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

landotter said:

David L. Johnson said:

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>
> > Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
> > this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
> > recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
> > with the nut inside the fork routine.
> >
> Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
> normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

I drilled the whole shebang out and everything just worked. Took an
hour and walks all over the old 600 side pulls. $20 for front and read,
by far the most rediculously effective upgrade I've ever done for the
money.

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

"rear", not "read". I need a small portable blonde copy editor.

On 19 Jul 2006 10:53:36 -0700, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

David L. Johnson said:

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>
> > Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
> > this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
> > recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
> > with the nut inside the fork routine.
> >
> Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
> normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

I drilled the whole shebang out and everything just worked. Took an
hour and walks all over the old 600 side pulls. $20 for front and read,
by far the most rediculously effective upgrade I've ever done for the
money.

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

Dear Landotter,

That's all very well, but what is the dog's name and why was it not
included in the second picture?

Indignantly,

Carl Fogel

Quoted message said:

On 19 Jul 2006 10:53:36 -0700, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

David L. Johnson said:

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:03:52 -0700, landotter wrote:

> Zog The Undeniable wrote:
>> landotter wrote:
>>
>> > Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
>> > this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
>> > recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
>> > with the nut inside the fork routine.
>> >
>> Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
>> normal front brake with allen key nut.
>
> Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
> rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
> anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

I drilled the whole shebang out and everything just worked. Took an
hour and walks all over the old 600 side pulls. $20 for front and read,
by far the most rediculously effective upgrade I've ever done for the
money.

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

Dear Landotter,

That's all very well, but what is the dog's name and why was it not
included in the second picture?

That is Emil, named after the character in the Astrid Lindgren book. He
had birds to chase and [censored] to sniff, no time to be a picture
primadonna!

http://tinyurl.com/et44z

Quoted message said:

Indignantly,

Carl Fogel

landotter said:

David L. Johnson said:

landotter said:

Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>
> > Is it standard metric or english? I'm getting a set of new calipers
> > this week to retrofit an old nutted frame, and will need to replace the
> > recessed nuts with regular or cap nuts as I'm doing the back in front
> > with the nut inside the fork routine.
> >
> Or just drill the hole at the rear of the fork out to 8mm and use a
> normal front brake with allen key nut.

Nah, as I'm getting a set, it's easier to just run the front in the
rear in nutted fashion. I don't have a 90 degree drill attachment
anyway. ;-)

90-degree drill bit? Drilling out the back of the fork works fine, and is
exactly what a modern fork has. For the rear, I just drilled out the
whole hole to the size needed for the recessed nut, and it had no problem.
I may have put a sleeve in there, but I can't remember.

I drilled the whole shebang out and everything just worked. Took an
hour and walks all over the old 600 side pulls. $20 for front and read,
by far the most rediculously effective upgrade I've ever done for the
money.

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

Update, mainly for anybody doing a search on these brakes and thinking
about getting a set.

The Nashbar (Tektro) Long Reach Brakes get a big thumbs up from this
rider. I gave them a 20 mile workout this afternoon, and compared to
the 1st generation 600 sidepulls they replaced, they just rock. Nice
and stiff, decent finish, beautiful barrel adjusters, and better
mechanical advantage, especially in the hoods. Even the stock pads are
miles better than some Shimano and Bontrager dreck I've tried. Do
yourself a favor and sand off the glaze first thing, and you'll be very
pleased. No need to immediately upgrade to Koolstops.

As my old brake shoes were worn to the limit, I feel like I got a set
of calipers for free for the price of being re-shod. Good stuff.

landotter said:

"rear", not "read". I need a small portable blonde copy editor.

They tend to be pretty expensive.

--

David L. Johnson

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_`\(,_ | mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so
(_)/ (_) | that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am
nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

landotter said:

Quoted message said:

http://static.flickr.com/44/193502228_7880576147_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/47/193502227_c2cf93a12b_o.jpg

"rear", not "read". I need a small portable blonde copy editor.

Humph. My wife (a tall blonde with a MSCS) would get very jealous.
She'd probably leave me if I got one of those... and take the cats.

Jeff

Off-topic: today is our 14th anniversary. So there.