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Wow!!! Mary's Loop, Fruita looked intimidating.

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Great collection of shots! Always more interesting for me because I've ridden many of those trails.

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Looks nice. I'll have to check that place out sometime.

Matt

Nice pics! I am very "homesick" now (can I be homesick for CO when where I am at is now home?). Looking at that brown silty water in the CO river below Mary's was the kicker! I miss that part of the world. Good times! Thanks for posting those pics, some very good times and friends are swirling in my mind right now, thanks again.

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Wow!!! Mary's Loop, Fruita looked intimidating.

It's easy compared to many trails here.

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That one pic in Durango looks like Animas Mountain.

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Wow!!! Mary's Loop, Fruita looked intimidating.

It's easy compared to many trails here.

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That one pic in Durango looks like Animas Mountain.

JD

You are right, but you can tell its Raider's because you see FLC soccer field not too far behind.
Most of the rock edge views from Animas are the S. end of the valley (and across to Missionary
Ridge) or towards Falls Creek. Someone else commented on how difficult the pic of Mary's loop makes
it look, and I would agree. But I've had Moore Fun in the Loma area than that 🙂

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Wow!!! Mary's Loop, Fruita looked intimidating.

It's easy compared to many trails here. That one pic in Durango looks like Animas Mountain. JD

You are right, but you can tell its Raider's because you see FLC soccer field not too far behind.
Most of the rock edge views from Animas are the S. end of the valley (and across to Missionary
Ridge) or towards Falls Creek. Someone else commented on how difficult the pic of Mary's loop
makes it look, and I would agree. But I've had Moore Fun in the Loma area than that 🙂

Yes, Mary´s loop is fairly easy, of course one takes pix to make them look good, fact is more than
half of the fun of Mary´s Loop is to enjoy the landscape, it is sensationally beautiful to bike
along the rim of the Colorado River gorge. One bit that was truly intimidating to us is the descent
down to the Horsethief loop, most us included do it as kind of climb-a-bike, have a look at
petefagerlin.comvideo gallery.htmOpen ↗. Though it should be said, there is at the most 10-15
m that is climb-a-bike. The rest i just fun. There is one trail we never got around to doing called
More Fun or something that was said to be difficult. We never got around to doing at as we found
Fruita scorching hot in late August.

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Hey, that first one's not single track!

Mmmm *drool* .... you're inspiring me to cast my net a little wider than the half-hour radius around
my house ... even though all the stuff you snapped would surely kick my butt.

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There is one trail we never got around to doing called More Fun or something that was said to be
difficult.

Difficulty is all relative. The Moore Fun is not all that difficult to many.

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We never got around to doing at as we found Fruita scorching hot in late August.

I wonder why people constantly ignore that fact, here and in Moab. You can fry eggs on sandstone
either place in August.

JD

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Yes, Mary´s loop is fairly easy, of course one takes pix to make them look good, fact is more than
half of the fun of Mary´s Loop is to enjoy the landscape, it is sensationally beautiful to bike
along the rim of the Colorado River gorge. One bit that was truly intimidating to us is the
descent down to the Horsethief loop, most us included do it as kind of climb-a-bike, have a look
at petefagerlin.comvideo gallery.htmOpen ↗. Though it should be said, there is at the most
10-15 m that is climb-a-bike. The rest i just fun. There is one trail we never got around to doing
called More Fun or something that was said to be difficult. We never got around to doing at as we
found Fruita scorching hot in late August.

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We have discussed this before, but the decent to Horsethief is now very hard for me, it was less so,
but not by much, several years ago. I would guess it is due to erosion from heavy rain. Moore Fun is
also difficult, at least at my skill level, but it offered a beautifully made trail, some great
scenery, and a consistantly technical challange. Again, for me. Still, I really liked all your pics.
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I wonder why people constantly ignore that fact, here and in Moab. You can fry eggs on sandstone
either place in August.

As far as we are concerned it was our chance to perhaps ever bike in Fruita. It is far from
Sweden. Bit like americans spend three or four days i Paris in August, when the town is shut, just
to see it.

Have biked in hot countries, as India, Malaysia, Thailand, Lao, Cambodia, Vietnam, and enjoyed it.
What we suffered from most in in Fruita was the approaches, cycling on road with a lot of traffic
out to Loma etc, before we hit the trails.

We still enjoyed Fruita, though no doubt it is more fun in October. After a couple of days we really
longed for the alpine meadows of Crested Butte 66.227.22.242Trail401g.jpgOpen ↗ that probably
are a bit too cold now when it is fine in Fruita. One just can´t have it all.

I may be swearing in the church, and of course it is a matter of personal preferences, but we felt
dessert riding is over rated. We had a look at the mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it is fine
singletrack around Loma but most of it seem to be just dusty gravel road. Met a British couple who
had set out to ride the Divide, and they got so bored of grinding along dust roads that they simply
quit, and went to places with good singletrack instead. We would have done the same. The trails we
liked best we found in Durango, Frisco, Winter Park, and Salida.

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We had a look at the mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it is fine singletrack around Loma but
most of it seem to be just dusty gravel road.

It is. A group of 10 of us had a fun time on it, but the actual riding on the Koko trail is
quite dull.....

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I wonder why people constantly ignore that fact, here and in Moab. You can fry eggs on sandstone
either place in August.

As far as we are concerned it was our chance to perhaps ever bike in

Fruita.

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It is far from Sweden. Bit like americans spend three or four days i Paris in August, when the
town is shut, just to see it.

Have biked in hot countries, as India, Malaysia, Thailand, Lao, Cambodia, Vietnam, and enjoyed it.
What we suffered from most in in Fruita was the approaches, cycling on road with a lot of traffic
out to Loma etc, before we hit the trails.

We still enjoyed Fruita, though no doubt it is more fun in October. After

a

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couple of days we really longed for the alpine meadows of Crested Butte
66.227.22.242Trail401g.jpgOpen ↗ that probably are a bit too cold

now

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when it is fine in Fruita. One just can´t have it all.

I may be swearing in the church, and of course it is a matter of personal preferences, but we felt
dessert riding is over rated. We had a look at

the

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mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it is fine singletrack around Loma but most of it seem to be
just dusty gravel road. Met a British couple who had set out to ride the Divide, and they got so
bored of grinding along dust roads that they simply quit, and went to places with good singletrack
instead. We would have done the same. The trails we liked best we found in Durango, Frisco, Winter
Park, and Salida.

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Your right! Desert riding in August is over rated. Nice photos.

TJ

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... I may be swearing in the church, and of course it is a matter of personal preferences, but we
felt dessert riding is over rated. We had a look at the mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it is
fine singletrack around Loma but most of it seem to be just dusty gravel road.

Per

I won't accuse you of blasphemy, and I can understand how you can miss the appeal of desert riding.
Don't sum it up based on a little time spent in Fruita.

Clearly, different people enjoy different things about a given bike ride. Some people ride a bit of
narrow singletrack and derive a great deal of pleasure from the fact that it's unusually narrow.
Others may ride it and say, "well sure it's narrow, but where it goes is bland and featureless".
Others may say, "who cares how narrow it is or what the terrain looks like? It can get me to the
intersection of three other trails, and from there I can go miles and miles."

Lots of the riding I do in the American West involves some kind of doubletrack. Usually I am riding
on a road or jeep road trying to get to singletrack, but I can think of rides that involve nothing
but dirt road that are great. They are great (for me) because of where they go. If I could ride
singletrack everywhere I want to go, that would be great. But the western USA isn't like that. This
is an area that was explored and tamed with multi-wheeled vehicles.

So is double-track or even ro@d riding just something to tolerate, or is there any pleasure in it?
Depends on the rider, depends on the ride.

I absolutely love the American Desert. I love the Rocky Mountains, and the sweet high country CO
singletrack, but the desert is so sweet. The terrain is varied; I know of jeep roads in the desert
that are much more mentally challenging than lots of my favorite local singletrack. I also dig doing
long treks through unpopulated land, and I don't really care if some of it is on just a dusty dirt
road. Singletrack is better, sure thing. But a dusty road through beautiful canyon country on a
sweet morning can be a sweet ride.

I love camping in the desert, the early mornings in the desert, long shadows in the desert. Wish I
was crawling out of my tent into the red sand this morning.
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Looks nice. I'll have to check that place out sometime.

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We have discussed this before, but the decent to Horsethief is now very hard for me, it was less
so, but not by much, several years ago. I would guess it is due to erosion from heavy rain.

We did not see anyone ride the whole thing. Not even in Fagerlin´s videos. It would take the kind of
bike handling skills only top level trials riders tend to have.

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Moore Fun is also difficult, at least at my skill level, but it offered a beautifully made trail,
some great scenery, and a consistantly technical challange. Again, for me.

Pity we missed it.

Per

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preferences, but we felt dessert riding is over rated. We had a look at

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mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it is fine singletrack around Loma

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most of it seem to be just dusty gravel road.

Per

I won't accuse you of blasphemy, and I can understand how you can miss the appeal of desert
riding. Don't sum it up based on a little time spent in Fruita.

Don´t get me wrong we loved Fruita and would go back any day, even in mid-July or whenever the apex
of the hot season is. The riding was incredibly fun, the local biking culture great, people
friendly, etc. Though the well maintained singletrack around Fruita is one thing, riding dust roads
in a desert is another. I don´t care much for it. Does not imply that I am against. It is more an
issue of personal priorities. Or to put it differently life is short. I rather spend it on Monarch
Crest than on a dust road in a desert.

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I absolutely love the American Desert. I love the Rocky Mountains, and the sweet high country CO
singletrack, but the desert is so sweet. The terrain is varied; I know of jeep roads in the desert
that are much more mentally challenging than lots of my favorite local singletrack. I also dig
doing long treks through unpopulated land, and I don't really care if some of it is on just a
dusty dirt road. Singletrack is better, sure thing. But a dusty road through beautiful canyon
country on a sweet morning can be a sweet ride.

Sure, I see your point, we used to trek in the Alpine deserts of Ladakh, one year we did not see any
human being for three weeks, lowdin.nuZanskar86.htmlOpen ↗, we gave up doing
those long treks because we got fed up of carrying heavy loads: food, fuel, tent, etc., rather not
be a human beast of burden.

Chers Per

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Per Löwdin said:

... I may be swearing in the church, and of course it is a matter of personal preferences, but
we felt dessert riding is over rated. We had a look at the mythical kokopelli trail, and sure it
is fine singletrack around Loma but most of it seem to be just dusty gravel road.

Per

I won't accuse you of blasphemy, and I can understand how you can miss the appeal of desert
riding. Don't sum it up based on a little time spent in Fruita.

Clearly, different people enjoy different things about a given bike ride. Some people ride a bit
of narrow singletrack and derive a great deal of pleasure from the fact that it's unusually
narrow. Others may ride it and say, "well sure it's narrow, but where it goes is bland and
featureless". Others may say, "who cares how narrow it is or what the terrain looks like? It can
get me to the intersection of three other trails, and from there I can go miles and miles."

Lots of the riding I do in the American West involves some kind of doubletrack. Usually I am
riding on a road or jeep road trying to get to singletrack, but I can think of rides that involve
nothing but dirt road that are great. They are great (for me) because of where they go. If I could
ride singletrack everywhere I want to go, that would be great. But the western USA isn't like
that. This is an area that was explored and tamed with multi-wheeled vehicles.

So is double-track or even ro@d riding just something to tolerate, or is there any pleasure in it?
Depends on the rider, depends on the ride.

I absolutely love the American Desert. I love the Rocky Mountains, and the sweet high country CO
singletrack, but the desert is so sweet. The terrain is varied; I know of jeep roads in the desert
that are much more mentally challenging than lots of my favorite local singletrack. I also dig
doing long treks through unpopulated land, and I don't really care if some of it is on just a
dusty dirt road. Singletrack is better, sure thing. But a dusty road through beautiful canyon
country on a sweet morning can be a sweet ride.

I love camping in the desert, the early mornings in the desert, long shadows in the desert. Wish I
was crawling out of my tent into the red sand this morning.

If one knows where they are going in the desert, it can be even better than one might imagine. The
Kokopelli Trail can be boring to singletrack snobs, though a true singletrack snob who knows where
they are going on it can get their fix well into Utah.

JD

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Looks nice. I'll have to check that place out sometime.

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JD

Heh heh heh. I'll second that.

TJ