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I thought Kris Holm was the only one?

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It all depends on what you mean by "pro"

If by pro, you mean someone who makes a living off of unicycling, then
I'm sure that there are 100's.

If by pro, you mean someone who does like, extreme unicycling and is
sponsored by companies and stuff, I'd have to say there are
considerably less.

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pro unicyclist: someone who unicyclists for a profession.

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someone who always raises the bar, makes something new happen.. someone
who beats the rest and does what we think coudn be done..shaun
johanesson

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Well no non-street performer people make money from unicycle *riding*.

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pro as in professional means its your profession=something you do for a
living

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if being a pro unicyclist is making money of it i can consider myself as
a pro unicyclist...

I make money unicycling , i work as a artist but i also juggle too...
and this is my PROfession

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it shouldnt be called pro if its not a profession

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benjaug said:

Are there any professional unicyclists?

Lots of professional circus artists who have specialised in
unicycling.

Teresa and Sem Abrahams come to mind too.

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i by pro you mean get the $'s i need then yes I am

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tomtrevor said:

how the hell do u get fluro brown??? it would also probably look like
uve dunked the uni in a big pile of [censored]

iridemymuni said:

What colour [censored] do you do tom ? flouro brown [censored]? thats kinda weird

tomtrevor said:

y do u want to know the colour of my [censored]? like that just isn't natural
for someone to think that.

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I think a pro is someone who makes a significant proportion of their
total earnings through the named activity,either directly or through
sponsorship. I would imagine that the vast majority or pro unicyclists
are circus or stage performers. There is some debate in my mind over
people like KH, he doesn't get paid to ride, but his riding advertises
the products that he sells, which i would imgaine is his main
breadwinner. 'Pro' smacks of commerciality anyway, so perhaps isnt
something to aim for if you want to maintain the status quo of people
being in to unicycling for the fun rather than to make the most money.

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Yeah, I meant pro as in someone who makes a living of unicycling.

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Professional ... well, my only job is as a unicycle instructor (and
that's where I earn all my money) and, sometimes, I ride in shows and
so on. But I am only 17 years old and live at home. I go to school. I
think a professional athlete (in any sport, really) should have the
sport as his main source of income AND main activity in the daily life.
If you get up every monday and ride your unicycle and get paid for
that, you're a pro.

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benjaug said:

I am asuming there are because of the IUF

What does the IUF has to do with profesional unicycling?
In my opinion even less than the WJF has to do with profesional
juggling.

benjaug said:

Ryan Atkins

Is still a student, getting himself a decent education.

stuckinwheeliemode said:

kris holm

He use to have a dayjob, as well at a university.

benjaug said:

Yeah, I meant pro as in someone who makes a living of unicycling.

...and not just a little money, while living at your parents!
Someone who fills in "unicyclist" at the line -profession- at a
tax-form, which I'm doing ever since I got those sent to me, but I
wonder for how long that will be.

maxisback said:

Shaun Johanesson

Is a great rider. Got my respect, but I don't think he's making a
living out of it, or is he?

president_luke said:

Well no non-street performer people make money from unicycle *riding*.

I strongly disagree on that; though I do perform on street-theater
festivals, I don't consider myself a street-performer.
And what about 'Malte Knapp' (http://www.malteknapp.com/) or 'Iouri and
Diana' (http://www.iouri-diana.de/)?

I would like to adjust your statement to: -Right now no muni- or street
unicyclist is making a living out of unicycle *riding*.-
Right?

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Hasn't anyone said "Me" yet?
anyways, me
Ben Matthews
look for me on selfdestructing Munis dot com
A site so special, only pro unicyclists can see it:P

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EvanWilson said:

If by pro, you mean someone who makes a living off of unicycling, then
I'm sure that there are 100's.

If by pro, you mean someone who does like, extreme unicycling and is
sponsored by companies and stuff, I'd have to say there are
considerably less.

Actually this may be the other way around. With all the talk of
"non-pro" riders on this forum getting "sponsored" by various
companies, I'm pretty sure they outnumber the people who actually make
a living from unicycling. Because those are very few!

There are many ways to define "professional" in sports or other
disciplines. Let's start with the IUF (which, as Leo mentioned, has
almost nothing to do with professional unicyclists). The IUF *used to*
have a definition of pro, to determine whether "professional"
unicyclists would have to compete with the experts. That definition
broke it down as someone who makes at least 50% of their annual income
from performing, where that performing contained a significant amount
of unicycling.

That definition would have been hard to enforce, unless one was
familiar with the types of performance a rider did. But the idea was to
keep "pro" riders from being over-qualified in non-expert age groups.
Later we removed the pro distinction, as we had never used it, and upon
the realization that very few professional performers do the type of
riding that would give them a competitive advantage in an IUF artistic
competition.

Simple definition: You got paid to unicycle, at least once. Many of us
would qualify.

More strict definition: You've been paid to unicycle in the past year.
Less of us would qualify.

IUF-type definition: You make at least half your income from performing
(or unicycle riding). Performers must do "a lot" of unicycling in their
shows, not just an end act or one small part. Almost none of us would
qualify.

Very strict definition: You make all of your income from unicycling.
Hardly anyone in the world would qualify. The only example I can think
of offhand is Peter Rosendahl.

But there are other types of unicycling you may be involved in. Kris
Holm, for example, designs unicycles and spends countless hours working
out products with companies around the world to provide us with a
higher standard of unicycles and components. That, to me, doesn't make
him a professional unicyclist, but it makes him a member of the
"unicycle industry," which is a pretty small group as well.

Other people sell unicycles, such as the Drummond family, Roger Davies,
David Mariner and others. They might not be performers at all, but
their profession is unicycles (not necessarily unicycling).

Others do a combination. Sem & Teresa Abrahams perform, teach, build
and sell unicycles. They are professional unicyclists *and* are in the
unicycle business.

But there are other definitions. Darren Bedford has just "clouded the
waters" of what defines a pro with his new Pro Rider Series of
T-shirts. Featuring cartoon images of Zack Baldwin, Irene Genelin,
Shaun Johanssen and others, these are top-level riders who might not
ever get paid to unicycle. Probably all of them have at least a little
bit, but they may not aspire to do it for a living. In
unicycle-language we might call them experts. So the Pro Rider Series
definition is more about recognition of top riders than it is about
money or business.

Another way to define "professional" is as an attitude. Someone who
takes their activity seriously (though perhaps not too seriously),
respects it, and tries to make theirself and their activity better by
doing it. That one works for me as well.

Lastly, I'll add the definition of someone who used to do it for a
living, more or less, but now only gets paid occasionally (me). I guess
that makes me a part-time pro.

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I got my way paid to go to NAUCC by my sponsor. I've gotten several free
unicycles. And next month I'll get paid to do several trials demo's at
the state fair. So basicly, ALL of my income for this whole 2006 year
is from unicycling. Does that make me a "pro"? Nahh. Were did the idea
that you had to be paid to be a professional come from?

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johnfoss said:

That definition broke it down as someone who makes at least 50% of their
annual income from performing, where that performing contained a
significant amount of unicycling.

...a rule that applies to poeple who have a income and so spend (often
a lot of) time on working...
...and so have less time to practise, compare to a let's say student.
Besides that making a living out of performances that (wether partly or
not) contains unicycling sais not that much about the level of that
rider. And so all "pro's" I spoke think it's a useless and even unfair
rule. If you want to reach a certain level you'll have to work for it.
Regardless of being paid or not.

johnfoss said:

The only example I can think of offhand is Peter Rosendahl.

In the past he used to be another good example of a performer who make
money sec on unicycling. But after having children he started working
in a sport school, teaching some fighting sport.

In today's economy it became harder to make a living of unicycling.
Shows make less profit, and the budgets of companies seeking promotion
on events are simply spend different than 10 years ago.
So if you want unicycling as your occupation for the rest of your life,
then rather consider getting a decent job with a more stable income
like debt-collector, undertaker, banjo-seller, streetlight
bulb-replacer, engineering databases of a cereal factory,
insurance-representitive, or webdesigner.

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