Rolf Vector Comp wheels (problem)

"Ariel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I really
like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the downstroke of both
feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted through the pedals. It's
only marginally worse when climbing but I can make it creak if I just alternately press down on
the drops, side-to-side.

I've had the bike to the LBS several times. They've lubed the hub, replaced the bearings and lubed
the hub, (almost completely) trued it. And it seems to be fine for maybe 60-100 miles, and the
creak is back. It's driving me NUTS!! The fact that it gets better for a while would seem (to ME)
to indicate that the problem is in the wheel.

I'm a pretty big guy (6'4/210lbs) and I thought that I was causing the bike to flex--or womething.
The ride is fine. Maybe I need a new wheelset. (HA!! MAYBE, I need a NEW bike with a carbon frame.
YUP!! That'll teach it to creak! :-))

Anybody have any ideas?

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Ariel

I'm 6', 180lbs, and have noticed something similar on my Trek 5200. Mine is more of a metallic click
than a creak, however.

My LBS thinks it's just the tube stem rubbing a bit against the hole in the wheel. To test for this,
you can screw on the little nut to secure the stem in place. Or, put a rubber "sleeve" around the
stem prior to mounting it in the tire. I don't have either in place currently, and haven't noticed
the problem for a while, so maybe it's related to the brand of tube.

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Quoted message said:

OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I really
like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the downstroke of both
feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted through the pedals. It's
only marginally worse when climbing but I can make it creak if I just alternately press down on
the drops, side-to-side.

You quick release. Try borrowing one of the old-style quick releases (the

what happens. Or, to test things out without a different quick release, just put a bit of grease on
the area where the axle interfaces with the dropout and see if that "cures" it.

While the older-style QRs work better, you may still be able to use your current one if you lube the
cam area (the part where the lever rotates on the shaft). This will make it considerably smoother
and allow more force. Do keep in mind that it takes a fair amount of pressure to properly secure a
wheel... rarely do I see bikes come in for service with the quick releases properly tightened.

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"Ariel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I really
like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the downstroke of both
feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted through the pedals. It's
only marginally worse when climbing but I can make it creak if I just alternately press down on
the drops, side-to-side.

I've had the bike to the LBS several times. They've lubed the hub, replaced the bearings and lubed
the hub, (almost completely) trued it. And it seems to be fine for maybe 60-100 miles, and the
creak is back. It's driving me NUTS!! The fact that it gets better for a while would seem (to ME)
to indicate that the problem is in the wheel.

I'm a pretty big guy (6'4/210lbs) and I thought that I was causing the bike to flex--or womething.
The ride is fine. Maybe I need a new wheelset. (HA!! MAYBE, I need a NEW bike with a carbon frame.
YUP!! That'll teach it to creak! :-))

Anybody have any ideas?

--
Ariel

Quoted message said:

OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I really
like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the downstroke of both
feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted through the pedals. It's
only marginally worse when climbing but I can make it creak if I just alternately press down on
the drops, side-to-side.

I've had the bike to the LBS several times. They've lubed the hub, replaced the bearings and lubed
the hub, (almost completely) trued it. And it seems to be fine for maybe 60-100 miles, and the
creak is back. It's driving me NUTS!! The fact that it gets better for a while would seem (to ME)
to indicate that the problem is in the wheel.

I'm a pretty big guy (6'4/210lbs) and I thought that I was causing the bike to flex--or womething.
The ride is fine. Maybe I need a new wheelset. (HA!! MAYBE, I need a NEW bike with a carbon frame.
YUP!! That'll teach it to creak! :-))

Anybody have any ideas?

Are you sure it's the wheel? Ive had the same problem and got rid of the creaks by greasing the area
where the bar is fixed to the stem. Try loosen the bar, pull it slightly to one side and grease it.
Push it back and retighten the bar. Worked for me. Hjalmar

In article <[email hidden]>, Hjalmar Duklæt

Quoted message said:

Are you sure it's the wheel? Ive had the same problem and got rid of the creaks by greasing the
area where the bar is fixed to the stem. Try loosen the bar, pull it slightly to one side and
grease it. Push it back and retighten the bar. Worked for me. Hjalmar

That was the first thing they tried. It had no effect.

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Ariel

In article <[email hidden]>, Mike Jacoubowsky

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Quoted message said:

OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I really
like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the downstroke of both
feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted through the pedals. It's
only marginally worse when climbing but I can make it creak if I just alternately press down on
the drops, side-to-side.

You quick release.

The tech said that tightening this helped quite a lot, but also that something around the bearings
became un-Locktite-d. So, we'll see how long this fix lasts... I may have to learn how to do this
myself! Something about also lubing the cones.

Meanwhile, I tried on a 60cm Orbea (carbon/Ultegra/$2500). I like the longer reach. I supposedly
measure out at 59cm; it may have been a mistake to take the smaller-sized bike. With the seat all
the way back and a 13cm stem, I'm only ALMOST comfortable. (Or am I only trying to justify the new
bike! :-)) For some reason, though, I like Trek, probably the 5200 (I don't need Dura-Ace).

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Ariel

"Ariel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>, Mike Jacoubowsky

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

OK, so I've had this Trek 2300 (58cm) with these wheels (700x23) for about 1-1/2 years. I
really like the bike, except for the wheels. Well, the front wheel. It creaks on the
downstroke of both feet whenever I'm up off the saddle. I don't feel anything transmitted
through the pedals. It's only marginally worse when climbing but I

can

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make it creak if I just alternately press down on the drops, side-to-side.

You quick release.

The tech said that tightening this helped quite a lot, but also that something around the bearings
became un-Locktite-d. So, we'll see how long this fix lasts... I may have to learn how to do this
myself! Something about also lubing the cones.

Meanwhile, I tried on a 60cm Orbea (carbon/Ultegra/$2500). I like the longer reach. I supposedly
measure out at 59cm; it may have been a mistake to take the smaller-sized bike. With the seat all
the way back and a 13cm stem, I'm only ALMOST comfortable. (Or am I only trying to justify the new
bike! :-)) For some reason, though, I like Trek, probably the 5200 (I don't need Dura-Ace).

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Ariel

FWIW, I love my 5200. This summer, on a trip to Colorado, it helped get me to the top of Mt. Evans
(the highest paved road in America, at 14,200 feet), and also helped me set a new personal best top
speed (55.4 mph).

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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:48:29 -0700, "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> from Posted via

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FWIW, I love my 5200. This summer, on a trip to Colorado, it helped get me to the top of Mt. Evans
(the highest paved road in America, at 14,200 feet), and also helped me set a new personal best top
speed (55.4 mph).

My top speed is 37.5. I sprinted to it on a flat. I'd love to try a big descent.

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7:39:25 PM 1 October 2003

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]/\/\> wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:48:29 -0700, "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> from Posted via

Supernews said:

FWIW, I love my 5200. This summer, on a trip to Colorado, it helped get

me

Quoted message said:

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to the top of Mt. Evans (the highest paved road in America, at 14,200

feet),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and also helped me set a new personal best top speed (55.4 mph).

My top speed is 37.5. I sprinted to it on a flat. I'd love to try a big

descent.

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dismal tissue
7:39:25 PM 1 October 2003

Holy [censored]...that's pretty %$#@! fast on the flats!

As for descending...I love it. When you get near 50, the wind makes an awesome tearing fabric kind
of noise, and I get an intense sense of being in the moment (at those speeds...you'd better be!).

My biggest rush this year in Colorado was not, however, the 55.4. Coming down the west side of
Loveland pass, I caught up with a semi loaded down with Cadildoac SUV's. I could have passed him on
the outside of a very sharp right-hand switchback, but decided that wasn't such a good idea. About
200 meters later, we were approaching a sharp left-hand switchback. He was only going about 25, but
looking down the road about 250 meters, I could see another semi approaching (coming slow up the
hill). I sprinted for the inside of the switchback which was the steepest part, and accelerated from
25 to 45 in no time at all. With less than 100 meters to spare, I cleared the semi and cut back in.
Talk about a rush!! And after that, I had no traffic at all for the next 6 miles of sweet Rocky
Mountain downhill. Ahhh...the good life.

BTW - don't tell my fiance or my mom about this...some things are best kept in the locker room <g>.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Kevan Smith
<[email hidden]/\/\> says...

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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:48:29 -0700, "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> from Posted via

Supernews said:

FWIW, I love my 5200. This summer, on a trip to Colorado, it helped get me to the top of Mt.
Evans (the highest paved road in America, at 14,200 feet), and also helped me set a new personal
best top speed (55.4 mph).

My top speed is 37.5. I sprinted to it on a flat. I'd love to try a big descent.

That's moving on the flat. My best is probably about 27 or 28 on the flats (though I've never really
tried to see just how fast I could go on a flat). I've hit 42 on a hill when spinning out my 52x11
before I ran out of hill.

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In article <[email hidden]>, garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com says...

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"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]/\/\> wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:48:29 -0700, "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> from Posted

via Supernews said:

FWIW, I love my 5200. This summer, on a trip to Colorado, it helped get

me

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to the top of Mt. Evans (the highest paved road in America, at 14,200

feet),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and also helped me set a new personal best top speed (55.4 mph).

My top speed is 37.5. I sprinted to it on a flat. I'd love to try a big

descent.

Quoted message said:

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tissue
7:39:25 PM 1 October 2003

Holy [censored]...that's pretty %$#@! fast on the flats!

As for descending...I love it. When you get near 50, the wind makes an awesome tearing fabric kind
of noise, and I get an intense sense of being in the moment (at those speeds...you'd better be!).

My biggest rush this year in Colorado was not, however, the 55.4. Coming down the west side of
Loveland pass, I caught up with a semi loaded down with Cadildoac SUV's. I could have passed him
on the outside of a very sharp right-hand switchback, but decided that wasn't such a good idea.
About 200 meters later, we were approaching a sharp left-hand switchback. He was only going about
25, but looking down the road about 250 meters, I could see another semi approaching (coming slow
up the hill). I sprinted for the inside of the switchback which was the steepest part, and
accelerated from 25 to 45 in no time at all. With less than 100 meters to spare, I cleared the
semi and cut back in. Talk about a rush!! And after that, I had no traffic at all for the next 6
miles of sweet Rocky Mountain downhill. Ahhh...the good life.

With the adrenalin rush from messing with the semi's, you could probably have sprinted to 45 even on
the flats!

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BTW - don't tell my fiance or my mom about this...some things are best kept in the locker
room <g>.

Indeed!

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