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  1. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bill said:
    Quoted message said:

    The answer is simple: since the damned road is so bicycle-hostile,
    then JUST DON'T RIDE ON IT! Some roads are truly unridable, and
    that's one of the facts of life that we just have to accept.

    If that's the only road you've got, it's nobody else's fault
    that you've chosen to live near a gravel pit.

    cheers, & "I like bashing my thumb with a hammer because it
    feels so good when I stop,"
    Tom

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    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And,
    As I have stated before I have no other way into the higher


    mountains because of that God damned Beale AFB in the way. The base is
    about ten miles on a side and I have even been detained by base FEDs and
    sent home in a sheriff's car. I didn't choose to live near a gravel pit
    and even if I lived in the next town (or 2) over that pit and friggin
    base would still be there. If I want to do some mountain work that road
    is the ONLY way to get there. Why don't you try to call my bluff and
    Google it so you can try to say I am lying. Everyone else likes to nit
    pick everything I say so join the group.

    Quoted message said:


    Bill, you misunderstand me. I believe you, that this road is so
    bicycle-hostile. I just question the wisdom of your decision to
    ride on it (in whatever manner) anyways.

    If it's so bad, I think you should just leave it alone, and find
    other [a]venues. There are roads & streets that I don't dare set
    wheel upon, like Vancouver's East 1st Avenue, or New Westminster's
    Stewardson Way.

    If you don't have other roads available -- that's just the way
    it is. I'd love to do some deep-sky optical astronomy, but I
    live in a light-polluted city. That's just the way it is.
    What can be done about either of our plights?

    There actually is NO alternative to this one road and that is a big
    thanks to Beale AFB being so damned big and right between me and the
    mountain roads I like to get to. The main problem with the base is that
    they own all the land around it and act as if it was area 51 or
    something. It covers about 100 square miles, most of which is nothing,
    would be good farmland, but they keep it as a buffer zone so you can't
    get close enough to see the main runway and hangar area. I think there
    are still some 'Black-ops' going on there. Hence, I have to live with
    this big roadblock in my way.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I ride for survivability (Mine).

    Well, I think a big part of surviving while riding is selecting
    routes that are less likely to kill ya.

    There are others but they are all flat and if I use them to get to the
    mountains I have just put about 15 extra miles on my legs before I get
    to a decent climb.

    And I'm not picking

    Quoted message said:

    on you. I just don't want you getting ran-over by a stoopid
    gravel truck. Y'know what else gravel trucks are bad for?
    They get these big, egg-sized/shaped rocks stuck in between
    their rear tires, and then randomly fling them off. I wouldn't
    want you or anyone else getting clobbered that way, either.
    Gravel trucks are good things to avoid. Hell, big chunks of
    bark flying off loaded logging trucks cam be another,
    similar hazard.

    One of my flat roads has it's own set of hazards in the way of farm
    machinery. There have been a few times when I have had to stop and
    dismount so I could get me and the bike almost into a ditch to void a
    tractor pulling some huge field plowing equipment about 15 feet wide. I
    don't know if it could be folded up or not but he had to drive down the
    middle of the road so as not to take out mailboxes on either side of the
    street.

    Quoted message said:


    I think you should just leave this road alone. But if you
    won't, don't complain or brag about it.

    cheers,
    Tom


    It doesn't do any good either way, the road is still there and the Air
    Force base isn't going away anytime soon either. The road is good on
    Sundays only since the trucks are running every Saturday.
    Compromises.
    Bill Baka

  2. You guys are *still* going on about this?

    Geeze, Bill isn't going to change how he does things; you aren't
    going to convince him, and he's not going to convince you. Why not just
    let it rest?

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  3. Chris BeHanna said:

    You guys are *still* going on about this?

    What guys? Going on about what?

    Quoted message said:

    Geeze, Bill isn't going to change how he does things; you aren't
    going to convince him, and he's not going to convince you. Why not
    just let it rest?

    Funny, the one who kept the thread alive seems to be you.

    HTH, BS

  4. Bill said:

    As I have stated before I have no other way into the higher
    mountains because of that God damned Beale AFB in the way. The base is
    about ten miles on a side and I have even been detained by base FEDs and
    sent home in a sheriff's car.

    Excellent. Security did their job. _You_ know you aren't a terrorist or
    disgruntled former base employee but _they_ do not know this and cannot afford
    to muck about in an effort to be kind to people who get too close.

    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    There actually is NO alternative to this one road and that is a big
    thanks to Beale AFB being so damned big and right between me and the
    mountain roads I like to get to.

    If you love those mountain so much, mebbe move mid-way between them and your
    work place?

    Quoted message said:

    The main problem with the base is that
    they own all the land around it and act as if it was area 51 or
    something.

    In the days when USSR was the main threat to U.S., Beale was the home of our
    strategic reconn. aircraft, SR-71, the biggest, fastest, highest-flying,
    keenest-eyed birds in the world. Whatever the missions of the various current
    Beale tenants, letting pedestrians, cyclists, weekend rubber-neckers, and
    what-have-you get close to that sensitive area would be Very Bad.

    Quoted message said:

    It covers about 100 square miles, most of which is nothing,
    would be good farmland, but they keep it as a buffer zone so you can't
    get close enough to see the main runway and hangar area. I think there
    are still some 'Black-ops' going on there.


    (snip)

    Maybe. But that's none of our business.

  5. Michael said:
    Bill said:

    As I have stated before I have no other way into the higher
    mountains because of that God damned Beale AFB in the way. The base is
    about ten miles on a side and I have even been detained by base FEDs and
    sent home in a sheriff's car.

    Excellent. Security did their job.

    It is a public road.

    _You_ know you aren't a terrorist or

    Quoted message said:

    disgruntled former base employee but _they_ do not know this and cannot afford
    to muck about in an effort to be kind to people who get too close.

    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    There actually is NO alternative to this one road and that is a big
    thanks to Beale AFB being so damned big and right between me and the
    mountain roads I like to get to.

    If you love those mountain so much, mebbe move mid-way between them and your
    work place?

    No Internet?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The main problem with the base is that
    they own all the land around it and act as if it was area 51 or
    something.

    In the days when USSR was the main threat to U.S., Beale was the home of our
    strategic reconn. aircraft, SR-71, the biggest, fastest, highest-flying,
    keenest-eyed birds in the world. Whatever the missions of the various current
    Beale tenants, letting pedestrians, cyclists, weekend rubber-neckers, and
    what-have-you get close to that sensitive area would be Very Bad.

    My daughter has dated some guys from Beale and rumor has it that they
    still have operational Blackbirds. One guy I know who retired told me
    that the official 2,134 MPH that was published was a joke, since that
    was the fuel conserving speed to go cross country without having to slow
    down for a KC-135. He said 3,500 MPH was closer to what they could do to
    outrun a missile, explaining why one was never shot down. Another point
    is that the road I was on only has a view of the small strip that the
    airplane commuters land and park their Cessna's on.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It covers about 100 square miles, most of which is nothing,
    would be good farmland, but they keep it as a buffer zone so you can't
    get close enough to see the main runway and hangar area. I think there
    are still some 'Black-ops' going on there.


    (snip)

    Maybe. But that's none of our business.

    It is our tax money, but I am pretty sure about the 'Black-ops' since I
    have been questioned by guys from Homeland Security just for stopping at
    the end of a road that used to be a gate way back when. Something is
    still going on for them to be that touchy.

    As far as the wrong way riding, I just think there are some people here
    who have never done country / farmland riding and would be lost without
    painted bike lanes and stop lights to guide them. Some roads are one
    lane both directions and if 2 cars meet one has to pull over, so there
    really is no right or wrong side.
    'Nuff said.
    Bill Baka

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