Problem with boils

Paul Cassel said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what
I expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but
are painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their
duration. I'm back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

Try using "Ichthammol ointment 20%", an old fashioned "drawing salve".
Messy and nasty, but very effective. Available OTC, but you may have to
ask your pharmacist for it, as it is often kept behind the counter.

Paul Cassel said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what
I expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but
are painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their
duration. I'm back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

Sure they're not ingrown hairs from shaving your bits? ;-) Now *that*
would be embarrassing. :-P

AFAIK, there's little you can do aside from warm compresses/showers and
application of a bit of antibiotic cream.

*ouch* thanks for making the spider bit on my elbow seem a little less
crappy.

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Quoted message said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what I
expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but are
painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their duration. I'm
back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

I have found that the Tea Tree Oil you can get at the various health
suppliments stores (CNC stores for example) helps a lot at helping to heal
up boils faster.
I very tiny bit goes a long way too. it of course isn't cheap per se, but it
does come in a little tiny bottle though.
Figuring out a way to "lance" the boil so you can drain and clear it helps
to heal it a lot faster too. But you are on your own there. 🙂

Pevention is key mostly, Washing your shorts after every ride is a big plus.
Washing yourself before each ride is a big plus. Wiping down with some
"witchhazel" (similar to rubbing alcohol) is a big plus. Also using some
water soluble "chamois creme" helps a lot too. The main idea is to reduce
the bacteria population, so that if a skin pore or irritation develops it is
less likely to get infected. Don't forget to wash off after a ride as well,
as you have to get cleaned up and prevent any bacteria from getting going
from all the sweat and stuff too.

Earl Bollinger said:

I have found that the Tea Tree Oil you can get at the various health
suppliments stores (CNC stores for example) helps a lot at helping to heal
up boils faster.
I very tiny bit goes a long way too. it of course isn't cheap per se, but it
does come in a little tiny bottle though.
Figuring out a way to "lance" the boil so you can drain and clear it helps
to heal it a lot faster too. But you are on your own there. 🙂

This would be where the yoga classes come in handy. *g* Lock the
bathroom door, lest you scar somebody for life.

Paul Cassel said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what
I expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but
are painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their
duration. I'm back to washing fully.

Hmmm, I can't remember the last time I washed my shorts. Was it 2 weeks
ago or 3?

Greg

--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

what's a boil? is it a colony deadly flesh eating anerobic bacteria
sitting under thier roof of impenetrable rubber exudate complete with
holes the bacteria use to [censored] white exudate(once your tissue) into the
exterior sack you call a boil?

If you wear clothes, any clothes, and you sweat in them, why wouldn't you
throw them into the wash afterwards?
Are they your only shorts, and you need them tomorrow?
Are you a college kid?
Is soap too expensive?
Do you not have access to a washing machine?
Are you from some country where they never wash clothes? or take baths?
Do you believe everything everybody tells you? (That's why we have wars and
religions).
Are they made of wool? (Some say you can wear wool repeatedly without
washing, but I wouldn't.)
All you have to do is: when you finish a ride, take a shower, and throw all
your bike clothes into the wash or the hamper).
Hope you learned from this, and I hope you get better soon.

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Quoted message said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what I
expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but are
painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their duration. I'm
back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

no, more than that -
wash your [censored] and pudendum with triflow nonono not triflow
triclosan(check the back) Dial liquid soap -used for baby butt washing
after the baby craps all over the place at 3AM
repeat after riding.
a good start for removing the "boils" is having your girlfirend pour
h2o2 over thye bottom.
if the h2o2 doesn't bubble down to a red flesh but to a white wrinkly
tissue then you need get thee to a dermatologist caws the bacteria are
anerobic beneath the wrinkly and you're colonized:
this can be exceedingly traumatic and should be avoided.
basically what goes on is the saddle abuses butt flesh into a wide
swath of small cracks allowing penetration from the fluids oozing out
of your aforementioned [censored] and intestinals where they digest food.
once out and running they enjoy getting back in thru the cracks and
becoming a bed for other vile bacteria to grow in.

Gary Smiley said:

If you wear clothes, any clothes, and you sweat in them, why wouldn't you
throw them into the wash afterwards?
Are they your only shorts, and you need them tomorrow?
Are you a college kid?
Is soap too expensive?
Do you not have access to a washing machine?
Are you from some country where they never wash clothes? or take baths?
Do you believe everything everybody tells you? (That's why we have wars and
religions).
Are they made of wool? (Some say you can wear wool repeatedly without
washing, but I wouldn't.)
All you have to do is: when you finish a ride, take a shower, and throw all
your bike clothes into the wash or the hamper).
Hope you learned from this, and I hope you get better soon.

Thanks to all and a thanks for some email from some suggesting ways to
address this. No, I won't lance the boils as I live alone so access is
somewhat difficult.

As to why I started rinsing instead of a full wash, I figured to save
some energy. I didn't want to run the machine for a full cycle for just
shorts.

-paul

Paul Cassel said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what
I expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but
are painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their
duration. I'm back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

Another good way to prevent these is to put some triple antibiotic
ointment (Neosporin) on the area likely to be affected instead of butt
creme. This keeps the bacteria count down as well.

I usually wash shorts after long weekend rides but do normally go two
days rides at work without washing them in between. The key is to dry
them thoroughly between rides. Bacteria and fungus don't like dry
either.

Steve

Steve Sr. said:

Paul Cassel said:

First bit of bad advice I have gotten was to rinse, rather than fully
wash, my shorts after a ride. I took to this and have ended up with what
I expect are boils right where I sit the bike. These aren't serious, but
are painful enough to make riding unpleasant at least for their
duration. I'm back to washing fully.

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things? This is
pretty embarrassing, but I suspect I'm not alone in having been hit by
this problem either.

Another good way to prevent these is to put some triple antibiotic
ointment (Neosporin) on the area likely to be affected instead of butt
creme. This keeps the bacteria count down as well.

I usually wash shorts after long weekend rides but do normally go two
days rides at work without washing them in between. The key is to dry
them thoroughly between rides. Bacteria and fungus don't like dry
either.

Steve

That's nice but it's been suggested that (mostly unnecessary)
prophylactic antibiotic use leads to development of super drug resistant
bacteria. In that sense, it is not a good idea.

Anyway, you've all got it wrong. The boils don't develop from normal
skin flora, but from compromised tissues. That is, ischemia and
masseration of hypoxic tissues leads to tissue breakdown and consequent
bacterial opportunity. So, the secret is to limit the amount of
ischemia and friction your skin suffers.

Normal hygeine, chamois lube, good fitting, good quality shorts, good
bike fit, good saddle, and knowing how to get your ass off the saddle
every now and then helps ... should do the job.

Robin Hubert

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| what's a boil? is it a colony deadly flesh eating anerobic bacteria
| sitting under thier roof of impenetrable rubber exudate complete with
| holes the bacteria use to [censored] white exudate(once your tissue) into the
| exterior sack you call a boil?
|

I liked it better when I couldn't understand a word you wrote.

trg said:

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| what's a boil? is it a colony deadly flesh eating anerobic bacteria
| sitting under thier roof of impenetrable rubber exudate complete with
| holes the bacteria use to [censored] white exudate(once your tissue) into the
| exterior sack you call a boil?
|

I liked it better when I couldn't understand a word you wrote.

Yeah but after reading Gene's vivid description I went and chucked both
my pairs of cycling shorts straight into the wash ;-)
/Robert

Robin Hubert said:

That's nice but it's been suggested that (mostly unnecessary)
prophylactic antibiotic use leads to development of super drug resistant
bacteria. In that sense, it is not a good idea.

Anyway, you've all got it wrong. The boils don't develop from normal
skin flora, but from compromised tissues. That is, ischemia and
masseration of hypoxic tissues leads to tissue breakdown and consequent
bacterial opportunity. So, the secret is to limit the amount of
ischemia and friction your skin suffers.

Normal hygeine, chamois lube, good fitting, good quality shorts, good
bike fit, good saddle, and knowing how to get your ass off the saddle
every now and then helps ... should do the job.

Perhaps that's what set me up. I got a new for me mtn bike after mine
was stolen. The seat was terrible. The saddle I wanted to use was in use
on loan to my buddy. Until he got a new one and gave me my good saddle
back, I used a saddle which made me miserable. Right after is when the
problem surfaced.

OTOH, most of what I read about boils discuss them on the neck and other
non-load bearing areas so there must be more to these things than just
from bad saddles or ill fitting shorts.

-paul

nothing clears them up like soaking in a shallow tub of VERY salty, very warm water for at least 10 mins.

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Paul Cassel said:

Robin Hubert said:

That's nice but it's been suggested that (mostly unnecessary)
prophylactic antibiotic use leads to development of super drug
resistant bacteria. In that sense, it is not a good idea.

Anyway, you've all got it wrong. The boils don't develop from normal
skin flora, but from compromised tissues. That is, ischemia and
masseration of hypoxic tissues leads to tissue breakdown and
consequent bacterial opportunity. So, the secret is to limit the
amount of ischemia and friction your skin suffers.

Normal hygeine, chamois lube, good fitting, good quality shorts, good
bike fit, good saddle, and knowing how to get your ass off the saddle
every now and then helps ... should do the job.

Perhaps that's what set me up. I got a new for me mtn bike after mine
was stolen. The seat was terrible. The saddle I wanted to use was in use
on loan to my buddy. Until he got a new one and gave me my good saddle
back, I used a saddle which made me miserable. Right after is when the
problem surfaced.

OTOH, most of what I read about boils discuss them on the neck and other
non-load bearing areas so there must be more to these things than just
from bad saddles or ill fitting shorts.

-paul

Those result from ingrown hairs - a product of shaving. Different etiology.

Robin Hubert

What the hell are you talking about?? Lance Boyle was a famous racer!

When you wash your shorts, peg them up outside so the pad is in the
sun. Full sun is hostile to the creatures that inhabit dark, moist
places. This extra step seems to have eliminated a little issue I used
to get.

Donga

Paul Cassel said:

I know I can just wait them out and it'll take about 10 days to resolve.
Can anyone suggest a quicker way to get rid of these things?

If you insist on riding, a hole in the saddle underneath where the
boil is will help. Cut the saddle with a utility knife or box cutter.

JT

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