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  1. For 25 years I've had a blue Bottecchia sitting around my apartment,
    inherited from a family friend who used it something like three times.

    It has all the original equipment on it, including the original
    hand-sewn tires and brown, un-broken-in Brooks saddle. It has
    'Professional Hand Made' painted on it, as well as a sticker that says
    'Campione Del Mondo 1966' and 'Campione Italiano 1964-65-66-67'

    Years ago someone pointed out where it was imprinted '1973' on the steel
    of the pedal assembly, I think (I haven't looked lately), and he told me
    that indicated the year of manufacture.

    I live in New York City and took the bike around 6-8 years ago to the
    Toga Bike Shop, a racing-oriented shop where the bike's owner used to go
    and may even have bought the bike. When I went there I asked if they
    could give me an estimate on the value of the bike and no one would or
    could, although they dangled the offer of a trade for an unspecificed
    new bike.

    The Bottecchia is only gathering dust in my apartment and I'm finally
    thinking of selling it but have no idea what the value is. I tried
    various internet searches but didn't really come up with anything too
    useful.

    Can anyone suggest any printed or online references, or any other way I
    can figure out a fair value for this bicycle?

    Note: I've got a 30-year-old Raleigh Super Course I used for my periodic
    street rides and don't need anything else for myself, so don't try to
    convince me to spruce up the Bottecchia and use it. :-)

  2. Quoted message said:

    Can anyone suggest any printed or online references, or any other way I
    can figure out a fair value for this bicycle?

    eBay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottecchia-Bike-Complete-w-Fenders-Rack-Bell_W0QQitemZ7245203495QQihZ015QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    or try rec.bicycles.marketplace

    jeremy

  3. "jeremy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone suggest any printed or online references, or any other way I
    can figure out a fair value for this bicycle?

    eBay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottecchia-Bike-Complete-w-Fenders-Rack-Bell_W0QQitemZ7245203495QQihZ015QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    or try rec.bicycles.marketplace

    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.

  4. "jeremy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone suggest any printed or online references, or any other way I
    can figure out a fair value for this bicycle?

    eBay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottecchia-Bike-Complete-w-Fenders-Rack-Bell_W0QQitemZ7245203495QQihZ015QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    or try rec.bicycles.marketplace

    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.

  5. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.


    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  6. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.


    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  7. Jack Maars said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.


    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


    Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

  8. Jack Maars said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a better
    deal for $50.


    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


    Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

  9. in message <[email hidden]>,

    jeremy (') said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone suggest any printed or online references, or any other way
    I can figure out a fair value for this bicycle?

    eBay:


    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Bottecchia-Bike-Complete-w-Fenders-Rack-Bell_W0QQitemZ7245203495QQihZ015QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Putting a rack on that bike is sacrilege!

    Having said that, OP, you are not sitting on a gold mine. It's a
    beautiful bike and it would be a tragedy for it to get scrapped, but the
    number of people who want good classic bikes is pretty limited, and the
    amount of space those people have to store classic bikes, is limited.

    So while I think US$168 is a disappointing price, it isn't a very
    surprising price.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; Generally Not Used
    ;; Except by Middle Aged Computer Scientists

  10. "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jack Maars said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a
    better deal for $50.


    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


    Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:

    Atala World Championship CX (converted for touring)
    Basso Loto
    Basso Gap
    Colnago Super
    Colnago C40
    Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1
    Eddy Merckx Ex Pro
    Fuji Newest
    Look KG241
    Look (don't know the model number since it's a steel bike)
    Raleigh Team CX
    Santa Cruz Superlight
    Pinarello CX
    Vitus 979

    I also have a couple extra frames and a lot of other stuff like wheels and
    whatnot.

    Whats in your garage?

  11. Tom Kunich said:

    "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jack Maars said:

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a
    >better deal for $50.
    >
    >

    Yea Tom we know.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:

    Atala World Championship CX (converted for touring)
    Basso Loto
    Basso Gap
    Colnago Super
    Colnago C40
    Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1
    Eddy Merckx Ex Pro
    Fuji Newest
    Look KG241
    Look (don't know the model number since it's a steel bike)
    Raleigh Team CX
    Santa Cruz Superlight
    Pinarello CX
    Vitus 979

    I also have a couple extra frames and a lot of other stuff like wheels and
    whatnot.

    Whats in your garage?

    Calling me out, are you?
    In the order I think of them:

    Giant TCR1
    Kestrel Talon
    K2 Mod 5
    Bridgestone T700
    Schwinn Sierra 700
    early 80's Fuji Del Rey single speed
    Late 80's Peugeot Versailles
    Late 80's Pinarello Treviso
    Montague folding bike
    1983 Trek 560 with S&S couplers installed
    Diamondback Patrol full suspension thing

    3 more frames on the wall and sufficient parts to build at least 2 of
    them the way they ought to be built. 4 big rubbermaid containers full
    of misc. parts (mostly [censored]). I don't know what else.

    I think your collection has mine beat, but we both pretty obviously have
    issues we ought to be working through that we instead choose to
    sublimate by typing newsgroup inanities and collecting too many bikes.

  12. Carlo Coggi said:

    For 25 years I've had a blue Bottecchia sitting around my apartment,
    inherited from a family friend who used it something like three times.

    I still have, and ride on all terrains, my 30+ years old racing bikes.
    Bring it back to this side of the pond, where it should belong, and it
    will be mine.

    Sergio
    Pisa

  13. "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Jack Maars wrote:

    >"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a
    >>better deal for $50.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Yea Tom we know.
    >
    >http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:

    Atala World Championship CX (converted for touring)
    Basso Loto
    Basso Gap
    Colnago Super
    Colnago C40
    Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1
    Eddy Merckx Ex Pro
    Fuji Newest
    Look KG241
    Look (don't know the model number since it's a steel bike)
    Raleigh Team CX
    Santa Cruz Superlight
    Pinarello CX
    Vitus 979

    I also have a couple extra frames and a lot of other stuff like wheels
    and whatnot.

    Whats in your garage?

    Calling me out, are you?
    In the order I think of them:

    Giant TCR1
    Kestrel Talon
    K2 Mod 5
    Bridgestone T700
    Schwinn Sierra 700
    early 80's Fuji Del Rey single speed
    Late 80's Peugeot Versailles
    Late 80's Pinarello Treviso
    Montague folding bike
    1983 Trek 560 with S&S couplers installed
    Diamondback Patrol full suspension thing

    3 more frames on the wall and sufficient parts to build at least 2 of them
    the way they ought to be built. 4 big rubbermaid containers full of misc.
    parts (mostly [censored]). I don't know what else.

    I think your collection has mine beat, but we both pretty obviously have
    issues we ought to be working through that we instead choose to sublimate
    by typing newsgroup inanities and collecting too many bikes.

    Maybe if you didn't collect so much scrap iron your issues wouldn't be so
    prevailent. FUJI DEL RAY??? SCHWINN SIERRA? BRIDGESTONE ANCHOR?

  14. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Carlo Coggi said:

    For 25 years I've had a blue Bottecchia sitting around my apartment,
    inherited from a family friend who used it something like three times.

    I still have, and ride on all terrains, my 30+ years old racing bikes.
    Bring it back to this side of the pond, where it should belong, and it
    will be mine.

    I just sold my 1990 Bottecchia ADR painted bike a year ago because I simply
    didn't have the room. It was sort of heavy but it rode almost perfectly. It
    had "old fashion" geometry and you could ride it down the worst roads
    without it trying to beat you to death.

    There were a lot of Bottecchias made from less than stellar tube sets (mine
    was Aelle) but they still rode very nicely. These days you can still find
    older Pinarellos which were very similar - they rode great no matter what
    the materials were.

  15. Tom Kunich wrote:

    Tom, let me have a valid address to reach you and I'll send you a shot
    taken a couple of weeks ago.

    Sergio
    Pisa

  16. Tom Kunich said:

    "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    > Jack Maars wrote:
    >
    >> "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >>> Someone was pretty generous with their bidding there. I just got a
    >>> better deal for $50.
    >>>
    >>>
    >> Yea Tom we know.
    >>
    >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pink-Motorless-MINI-BIKE-bicycle-Excellent-Gift-FUN_W0QQitemZ7251008553QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2904QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    > Yeah, but his says COLNAGO on the downtube.

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:

    Atala World Championship CX (converted for touring)
    Basso Loto
    Basso Gap
    Colnago Super
    Colnago C40
    Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1
    Eddy Merckx Ex Pro
    Fuji Newest
    Look KG241
    Look (don't know the model number since it's a steel bike)
    Raleigh Team CX
    Santa Cruz Superlight
    Pinarello CX
    Vitus 979

    I also have a couple extra frames and a lot of other stuff like wheels
    and whatnot.

    Whats in your garage?


    Calling me out, are you?
    In the order I think of them:

    Giant TCR1
    Kestrel Talon
    K2 Mod 5
    Bridgestone T700
    Schwinn Sierra 700
    early 80's Fuji Del Rey single speed
    Late 80's Peugeot Versailles
    Late 80's Pinarello Treviso
    Montague folding bike
    1983 Trek 560 with S&S couplers installed
    Diamondback Patrol full suspension thing

    3 more frames on the wall and sufficient parts to build at least 2 of them
    the way they ought to be built. 4 big rubbermaid containers full of misc.
    parts (mostly [censored]). I don't know what else.

    I think your collection has mine beat, but we both pretty obviously have
    issues we ought to be working through that we instead choose to sublimate
    by typing newsgroup inanities and collecting too many bikes.

    Maybe if you didn't collect so much scrap iron your issues wouldn't be so
    prevailent. FUJI DEL RAY??? SCHWINN SIERRA? BRIDGESTONE ANCHOR?


    You are such a Kunich. Don't you know that the measure of a true Fred is
    in how hung up he is on thing he's riding.

    I actually LIKE riding crappy old bikes sometimes. Just last week I
    chased down a guy on a Merlin Cielo. Asked him about all the stuff he
    had hanging off of it (Campy Record). All on my old Bridgestone anchor.

    Also, I work in a crappy part of town. If an early 80's Fuji gets
    stolen by one of the meth heads, I'm not really out anything.

    The Schwinn IS an awful piece of [censored], though. You are right about that
    one. I ride that when my wife gets out her Rodriguez and wants me to
    ride with her. I've got to work to get that thing to move at all.

  17. Tom Kunich said:

    "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:

    Atala World Championship CX (converted for touring)
    Basso Loto
    Basso Gap
    Colnago Super
    Colnago C40
    Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1
    Eddy Merckx Ex Pro
    Fuji Newest
    Look KG241
    Look (don't know the model number since it's a steel bike)
    Raleigh Team CX
    Santa Cruz Superlight
    Pinarello CX
    Vitus 979

    I also have a couple extra frames and a lot of other stuff like wheels
    and whatnot.

    Whats in your garage?

    Calling me out, are you?
    In the order I think of them:

    Giant TCR1
    Kestrel Talon
    K2 Mod 5
    Bridgestone T700
    Schwinn Sierra 700
    early 80's Fuji Del Rey single speed
    Late 80's Peugeot Versailles
    Late 80's Pinarello Treviso
    Montague folding bike
    1983 Trek 560 with S&S couplers installed
    Diamondback Patrol full suspension thing

    3 more frames on the wall and sufficient parts to build at least 2 of them
    the way they ought to be built. 4 big rubbermaid containers full of misc.
    parts (mostly [censored]). I don't know what else.

    I think your collection has mine beat, but we both pretty obviously have
    issues we ought to be working through that we instead choose to sublimate
    by typing newsgroup inanities and collecting too many bikes.

    Maybe if you didn't collect so much scrap iron your issues wouldn't be so
    prevailent. FUJI DEL RAY??? SCHWINN SIERRA? BRIDGESTONE ANCHOR?

    Hey Kunich,

    Posting a catalogue raisonne of one's bike collection to rbr
    is a sign of missing the point, or a nouveau-riche lack of
    class, or just bad taste. But, hey, at least when Tim is out
    riding his Bridgestone Anchor, he has a psychological
    excuse for sucking. You have an impressive collection
    of bikes, and you still suck. What's your excuse?

    Ben
    I don't need an excuse to suck at riding,
    I have a natural talent for it

  18. "Tim Lines" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I actually LIKE riding crappy old bikes sometimes. Just last week I
    chased down a guy on a Merlin Cielo. Asked him about all the stuff he had
    hanging off of it (Campy Record). All on my old Bridgestone anchor.

    We won't mention that the T700 was repainted and rebadged as the RB-1

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I work in a crappy part of town. If an early 80's Fuji gets stolen
    by one of the meth heads, I'm not really out anything.

    You ride a bike to work in a bad part of town? OK. I worked with a guy that
    rode from Hayward to west Oakland every day to work. Once I laughed at him
    and he said that he'd race me to the Cycle Stop motorcycle shop on High St.
    in east Oakland. I drove down the freeway and parked back of the shop and
    talked with the mechanics for about a half hour. As I wandered out into the
    front of the shop he came in and was convinced he'd beat me there. From that
    time on every time he'd see me he'd mention that he beat my car with his
    bicycle. That's the sort of guy who rides a bicycle into a bad neighborhood.

    Quoted message said:

    The Schwinn IS an awful piece of [censored], though. You are right about that
    one. I ride that when my wife gets out her Rodriguez and wants me to ride
    with her. I've got to work to get that thing to move at all.

    Actually that wasn't a bad MTB when it was made. But 20 years later it's a
    bit dated not to mention heavy.

  19. Tom Kunich said:

    My bike collection in alphabetical order:


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    Basso Loto


    ....

    You have a Basso Loto?! I hear that they climb like an eagle, do flats
    like a Mercedes and descend like they are on rails. Can this possibly
    all be true?

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2D32145D

    Bret

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