expectations.

[email hidden] (Robert Grumbine) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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People who don't know the difference between Usenet and the web really shouldn't try to give
lessons.

Why do you think I don't? I know the difference quite well. I said nothing about usenet in
my post.

What's this sentence then?

I don't know anymore. I think I was trying to say that because I hadn't mentioned usenet explicitly
that it didn't mean I didn't know of and use it before the web appeared on the scene.

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My inference was that someone who thinks internet experience says anything about Usenet
experience (non-newbie-ness) doesn't know much about Usenet.

I got that part. Sorry you feel I'm being "holier than thou" by expressing a frustration I have with
this ng tending to ignore what I have experienced to be acceptable posting practice (APP). I'll
stick with running discussions here and try to unwind the posting oddities as I encounter them.

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- Mark ->
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"Mark A. Odell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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People who don't know the difference between Usenet and the web really shouldn't try to give
lessons.

I am actually John Atanasoff, so I know more about the whole damn thing than any of y'all. As such,
I hold that the only activity that goes against the grain on Usenet is top posting. Everything else
is fine by me.

John.

Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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I had my first unix shell account with a 14.4kB/s dial up modem. This predated the web. I had to
use gopher to find information. Do you remember gopher? I remember when Mosaic was first
released, do you? I'm just trying to help improve the readability of the thread content. Sorry to
have offended you so. Clearly there is no use trying to teach people how usenet works.

Hardly. The web is at least as old as common use of 9600 baud modems. But the topic at hand is
Usenet, _not_ the web. Usenet goes back to when I was primarily using a 1200 baud modem and
occasionally a 300 baud acoustically coupled modem.

People who don't know the difference between Usenet and the web really shouldn't try to give
lessons.

Your ad-hominem and your chest-beating in no way alters the fact that he does, in this case,
happen to be correct.

About which point? I agree whole-heartedly with him on all points but the implication that I do not
know the difference between the web and usenet. The chest beating is merely an attempt to date
myself. Since I enjoyed usenet newsgroups before the web was around I submit that I was, and still
am, aware that they are different.

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Anyway, I was using computers in the days where the internet was a distributed system of abucuses
interconnected by a network of smoke-signals, so there.

Well put.

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Mark A. Odell said:

I got that part. Sorry you feel I'm being "holier than thou" by expressing a frustration I
have with this ng tending to ignore what I have experienced to be acceptable posting practice
(APP). I'll stick with running discussions here and try to unwind the posting oddities as I
encounter them.

All this internet history and decorum makes me laugh like hell. I go back before computers much less
FPT, Gopher, ad barf. Top post, bottom post. middle post..I'm not sure I give a flying **ck unless
you quote the wrong person or issue and everyone is lost.

My motto, KISS, keep it simple stupid.

I think this horse is not only dead but fermenting in the damn glue bottle.

--
Doug Freese [email hidden]

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If I had a dime for every newbie that wined about being informed about now usenet news netiquette
works I'd be rich.

---I'm far from a newbie. I think etiquette would also dictate that you stay to the relevance of
the thread, which you obviously aren't so I guess I'm not the only one who can't follow the
"rules".

I had my first unix shell account with a 14.4kB/s dial up modem. This predated the web. I had to use
gopher to find information. Do you remember gopher? I remember when Mosaic was first released, do
you? I'm just trying to help improve the readability of the thread content. Sorry to have offended
you so. Clearly there is no use trying to teach people how usenet works.

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I find it odd you would claim this given you don't even know how to use a threaded newsreader, or
worse, if you do have a newsreader that supports threads that you refuse to select the correct
posting to which to reply.

---If such little things confuse you, you have bigger problems than someone else not following the
way YOU want things done.

I didn't say I couldn't understand what you did, I just found it confusing. E.g. less clear than had
you simply replied to the post you actually intended to. I don't see why you must attack me, it does
not improve my view of you.

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Maybe you have hours of time to waste going back to the original message to post (not always easy
and quick on TIN) but I have work to do.

No, but I do have a few momemts while I run large builds (compile/link). I too have much work to do.
I'm a touch typist so this only takes a momemt, not hours or even minuts. I'm sorry TIN is so
painful to use. Pan is a nice X windows based newsreader available for Linux. It may save you some
time so you can get more work done.

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This is a 3-minute luxury for me and I'm not going to waste my time trying to satisfy some
computer geeks who doesn't like the way I post. I need to get done and go home to TRAIN. Andy Hass

Have a good training. BTW, what do you train for? How fast do you run? How far? I'll start. I run 6
hilly miles a day at lunch, typically 6:45m/m to
7:15m/m. Best is 6:29m/m.

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I'm not sure I understand what you are against. Could you explain it further?

"sydenhams chorea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am actually John Atanasoff, so I know more about the whole damn

thing than

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any of y'all. As such, I hold that the only activity that goes

against the

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grain on Usenet is top posting. Everything else is fine by me.

John.

sydenhams chorea said:

I am actually John Atanasoff, so I know more about the whole damn thing than any of y'all.

It's really Gore...

--
Doug Freese [email hidden]

No.

"TenKMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I'm not sure I understand what you are against. Could you explain it further?

"sydenhams chorea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am actually John Atanasoff, so I know more about the whole damn

thing than

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any of y'all. As such, I hold that the only activity that goes

against the

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grain on Usenet is top posting. Everything else is fine by me.

John.

Please

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You

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"sydenhams chorea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am actually John Atanasoff, so I know more about the whole damn

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irritating?

~Matt

OMG! Matt's invented something worse!

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"TenKMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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You

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"sydenhams chorea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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thing than

Why

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> any of y'all. As such, I hold that the only activity that goes
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~Matt

sydenhams chorea said:

OMG! Matt's invented something worse!

Yes interposting. Then there's word Scramble posts.

"irritating why top Can explain you posting is so?"

Or my personal favorite Cryptogram posting "Asj tnz vklmsuj yct bnl lnabujd ua an uxxubsbujd?" (BTW
that was alot harder than I expected it to be)

~Matt

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"TenKMan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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> "sydenhams chorea" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Why

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In article said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

[snip]

I agree with your points about the horse being beaten enough already. Andy posts a lot of valuable
contributions to this newsgroup, and his followup to Mark but not to Mark post was really a very
minor transgression of usenet ettiquette. In the spirit of that sentiment, I'll allow the horse to
die with dignity now.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗