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  1. I just got the M5 S-Works FSR frameset and built it up. My S-Works M4 was pretty nicely equipped
    with XT and XTR stuff, 517's, SRAM 9.0 cassette, and a Manitou Black Elite Air (80 mm) so I put all
    of those pieces on the new frame (with a couple of new ones, like the Strongarm II crankset & XT
    splined BB). The end result was a 26 pound bike. Not bad for a FS. It's hard for me to give up a
    few pounds coming from my weight-weenie background, but this seems like a reasonable trade. After
    six rides I think I can make a reasonable assessment of it. Initially the bike seemed much more
    laid back, angle-wise, than my old XC hardtail. It felt pretty good to be back a little more on the
    bike. Not as twitchy as being up over the head tube like I was before. Climbing still feels very
    solid and I can't tell if I've lost any technical responsiveness (so if I have it's insignificant).
    No problems keeping the front wheel down on steep stuff and the traction is also very good. I like
    the lower top tube position too. I would always bang my knee on my old top tube on technical
    ascents. I haven't hit the new bike's top tube once. On the first real ride, I was definitely
    noticing the suspension. Landing a jump on the back wheel felt so nice. The bike just sticks on a
    landing. The Brain shock seems to work just like they said it would. When I stand up and crank on
    it, it feels just like a hardtail. No lateral slop or bobbing. Very solid. Then, when I'd hit some
    chop or a bump it would immediately be sucking them up and significantly taking the edge off. I
    couldn't notice any lag between hardtail mode and FS mode. Rolling up on an obstacle I could bunny
    hop it with a hardtail takeoff and then get a FS landing. It felt a little strange at first but I'm
    already pretty used to
    it. It still feels light and responsive, which was something I was afraid I might loose going to a
    heavier bike with rear suspension. My only complaint is the slight rattling sound that the brain
    makes from contact with the frame. When the bike was being built, the guy at the shop noticed
    this as well and thought it was a loose mount or something along those lines. It's actually part
    of how the brain works (according to Specialized) and it's supposed to do that. We ended up
    gluing a little piece of inner tube on the part of the frame that makes contact (inside the rear
    triangle). This has deadened the sound significantly and it's much better now. It's much softer
    than the sound of chain-slap and I'm already having to listen for it if I'm trying to isolate
    that sound. Once spring sets in up here I'll be (hopefully) getting out a lot more. That will
    give me a chance to give a follow-up longer term evaluation. Overall I'm very happy with it and
    have no major complaints.

    Matt

  2. "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got the M5 S-Works FSR frameset and built it up. My S-Works M4 was pretty nicely
    equipped with XT and XTR stuff, 517's, SRAM 9.0


    cassette,

    Quoted message said:

    and a Manitou Black Elite Air (80 mm) so I put all of those pieces on the new frame (with a couple
    of new ones, like the Strongarm II crankset & XT splined BB). The end result was a 26 pound bike.
    Not bad for a FS. It's


    hard

    Quoted message said:

    for me to give up a few pounds coming from my weight-weenie background,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    this seems like a reasonable trade. After six rides I think I can make a reasonable assessment of
    it. Initially the bike seemed much more laid back, angle-wise, than my old XC hardtail. It felt
    pretty good to be back a little more on the bike. Not as twitchy as being up over the head tube
    like I was before. Climbing still feels very solid and I can't tell if I've lost any technical


    responsiveness

    Quoted message said:

    (so if I have it's insignificant). No problems keeping the front wheel


    down

    Quoted message said:

    on steep stuff and the traction is also very good. I like the lower top


    tube

    Quoted message said:

    position too. I would always bang my knee on my old top tube on technical ascents. I haven't hit
    the new bike's top tube once. On the first real ride, I was definitely noticing the suspension.
    Landing a jump on the back wheel felt so nice. The bike just sticks on a landing. The Brain shock
    seems to work just like they said it would. When


    I

    Quoted message said:

    stand up and crank on it, it feels just like a hardtail. No lateral slop


    or

    Quoted message said:

    bobbing. Very solid. Then, when I'd hit some chop or a bump it would immediately be sucking them
    up and significantly taking the edge off. I couldn't notice any lag between hardtail mode and FS
    mode. Rolling up on


    an

    Quoted message said:

    obstacle I could bunny hop it with a hardtail takeoff and then get a FS landing. It felt a little
    strange at first but I'm already pretty used to
    it. It still feels light and responsive, which was something I was afraid


    I

    Quoted message said:

    might loose going to a heavier bike with rear suspension. My only complaint is the slight rattling
    sound that the brain makes


    from

    Quoted message said:

    contact with the frame. When the bike was being built, the guy at the shop noticed this as well
    and thought it was a loose mount or something along those lines. It's actually part of how the
    brain works (according to Specialized) and it's supposed to do that. We ended up gluing a little


    piece

    Quoted message said:

    of inner tube on the part of the frame that makes contact (inside the rear triangle). This has
    deadened the sound significantly and it's much better now. It's much softer than the sound of
    chain-slap and I'm already having


    to

    Quoted message said:

    listen for it if I'm trying to isolate that sound. Once spring sets in up here I'll be (hopefully)
    getting out a lot


    more.

    Quoted message said:

    That will give me a chance to give a follow-up longer term evaluation. Overall I'm very happy with
    it and have no major complaints.

    Matt

    Nice, thanks for the honest review...keep us updated for the long term...

    - CA-G

    Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

  3. "Carla A-G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Nice, thanks for the honest review...keep us updated for the long term...

    - CA-G

    Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

    Sure. This was the AM-B review. On MTBR I'll post the following:

    The Epic is the bestest bike everrrrr!!!!!!!!! I know it's better than all other full suspension
    bikes because it is #1!!!!!! Yeah, baby!!! iT'S PERFECT FOR ALL TERRAIN AND i KNOW THIS EVUN BEFORE
    i HAVE RIDDEN ALL TERRAIN.

    mAtT

  4. Cool review. How was it on fast terrain that only had "little" bumps? Did the Brain absorb them?

    --
    - Zilla (Remove XSPAM)

    "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got the M5 S-Works FSR frameset and built it up. My S-Works M4 was pretty nicely
    equipped with XT and XTR stuff, 517's, SRAM 9.0


    cassette,

    Quoted message said:

    and a Manitou Black Elite Air (80 mm) so I put all of those pieces on the new frame (with a couple
    of new ones, like the Strongarm II crankset & XT splined BB). The end result was a 26 pound bike.
    Not bad for a FS. It's


    hard

    Quoted message said:

    for me to give up a few pounds coming from my weight-weenie background,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    this seems like a reasonable trade. After six rides I think I can make a reasonable assessment of
    it. Initially the bike seemed much more laid back, angle-wise, than my old XC hardtail. It felt
    pretty good to be back a little more on the bike. Not as twitchy as being up over the head tube
    like I was before. Climbing still feels very solid and I can't tell if I've lost any technical


    responsiveness

    Quoted message said:

    (so if I have it's insignificant). No problems keeping the front wheel


    down

    Quoted message said:

    on steep stuff and the traction is also very good. I like the lower top


    tube

    Quoted message said:

    position too. I would always bang my knee on my old top tube on technical ascents. I haven't hit
    the new bike's top tube once. On the first real ride, I was definitely noticing the suspension.
    Landing a jump on the back wheel felt so nice. The bike just sticks on a landing. The Brain shock
    seems to work just like they said it would. When


    I

    Quoted message said:

    stand up and crank on it, it feels just like a hardtail. No lateral slop


    or

    Quoted message said:

    bobbing. Very solid. Then, when I'd hit some chop or a bump it would immediately be sucking them
    up and significantly taking the edge off. I couldn't notice any lag between hardtail mode and FS
    mode. Rolling up on


    an

    Quoted message said:

    obstacle I could bunny hop it with a hardtail takeoff and then get a FS landing. It felt a little
    strange at first but I'm already pretty used to
    it. It still feels light and responsive, which was something I was afraid


    I

    Quoted message said:

    might loose going to a heavier bike with rear suspension. My only complaint is the slight rattling
    sound that the brain makes


    from

    Quoted message said:

    contact with the frame. When the bike was being built, the guy at the shop noticed this as well
    and thought it was a loose mount or something along those lines. It's actually part of how the
    brain works (according to Specialized) and it's supposed to do that. We ended up gluing a little


    piece

    Quoted message said:

    of inner tube on the part of the frame that makes contact (inside the rear triangle). This has
    deadened the sound significantly and it's much better now. It's much softer than the sound of
    chain-slap and I'm already having


    to

    Quoted message said:

    listen for it if I'm trying to isolate that sound. Once spring sets in up here I'll be (hopefully)
    getting out a lot


    more.

    Quoted message said:

    That will give me a chance to give a follow-up longer term evaluation. Overall I'm very happy with
    it and have no major complaints.

    Matt

  5. "MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Sure. This was the AM-B review. On MTBR I'll post the following:

    The Epic is the bestest bike everrrrr!!!!!!!!! I know it's better than all other full suspension
    bikes because it is #1!!!!!! Yeah, baby!!! iT'S PERFECT FOR ALL TERRAIN AND i KNOW THIS EVUN
    BEFORE i HAVE RIDDEN ALL TERRAIN.

    mAtT

    Call me shallow, but I quite like this one.

    Westie

  6. "Zilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cool review. How was it on fast terrain that only had "little" bumps? Did the Brain absorb them?

    --
    - Zilla (Remove XSPAM)

    Thanks. If the small bumps are jarring enough it activates the shock. I was riding this ridge-top
    near my house on Sunday that gets a lot of exposure. The sun and cross wind had shaped the snow into
    something similar to that texture they put on roads to warn you you're too close to the edge. It was
    also very hard (I had been riding this crust like it was slickrock where the shapes were smoother).
    Cruising along on it at a good clip I could tell the texture was there, but the shock just ate it
    up. It felt very smooth. It was good and it made me happy. Now, weather or not that qualifies as a
    "little" bump to you, I do not know. The overall feel of the bike is the shock is active when it
    needs to be. Just like the advertising hype, it "knows".

    Matt

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