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  1. Hey all,

    Went riding with my brother in the Peak District of England on Sunday.
    We were attempting to ride a 45 mile loop and for those of you that are
    not familiar with the terrain in this part of the country the general
    saying is "if you don;t like hills or rocks, don;t go to the peak
    district". If you aint going down you are going up, there is no flat!
    For me this seemed a tad overambitious, but my brother being on the
    verge of the GB rowing team insisted he had to do his training so we set
    off.

    The weather was warm but was raining lightly on and off which made me
    cold and first but was imperceptible after a while and not ata ll
    unpleasant. The ride started off with a climb of about 200m in the first
    2 miles and then became slightly easier going. This led into a nice
    relatively easy descent that led into another uphill where we came
    across a couple of women who were doing much the same circuit as us
    except that they were further along. Theyw ere also on full sussers
    whereas we were on hardtails so our riding pattern was slightly out. For
    this reason we didn't ride with them but they caught us up on the
    downhills and vice versa on the ups. After about 4 miles I realised that
    my suspension was set up way hard for the type of terrain we were
    riding. I was running 40psi on an 80mm travel fork while my brother was
    running 25 on a 100mm fork and was therefore a lot plusher. On every
    descent the bike was rattling hard and I was struggling to keep it under
    control. I was also having major problems with my front disk as the
    rotor kept coming loose and this caused massive juddering at the front end.

    15miles in, we were on a section which had a lot of gates so one of us
    was opening the gate for the other to ride through and get the next one
    ready. I had just closed the gate and was chasing after my bro pretty
    hard across undulating cross country terrain which the fork should have
    soaked up but didn't and I was getting quite badly out of shape. This
    then banked sharply into a steep downhill which I went for but didn't
    get the line quite right and was braking quite hard to try and regain
    control which caused the front to judder and the back end to slide
    (hardtails slide remember!). The downhill section had a switchback in it
    which I realised I wasn;t going to make and tried to bail out into the
    runoff/ make the bend/ stop al; at the same time. This had the effect of
    me not going for the turn or going straight on and grabbing a whole heap
    of front brake. The front hit a rock and I was gone, bye-bye, face first
    into a muddy bank strewn with rocks.

    Fortunately I had a lid on which absorbed the shock and I am quite
    surprised it didn;t crack open as it was quite an impact. The bike was
    fine apart from a slightly bent v brake lever (disk up front, vees out
    back) and I was ok apart from a bloodied knee and quite shaken up.

    We managed another 4 or so miles until I realised that given the time we
    had allowed ourselves we (I) would be struggling to make it round to the
    end and that we needed to chop around 10 miles off the loop before my
    legs packed in totally. (I thinm tiredness was also partly to blame for
    the crash as I wasn't using my legs as shock absorbers properly due to
    fatigue) We couldn;t shave 10miles off, but we decided to stick to minor
    roads and made it back to the car with time to spare, out of fluids but
    reasonably in one piece. (he managed to ride into a hedge at one point!,
    rider and bike both fine)

    In total we rode about 40miles, 20 or so of which were off road on
    pretty technical (for my ability anyway) cross country trails. We have
    already decided that if I get out a fair bit and build up my fitness we
    will have another go at the same trail later in the summer and give
    ourselves a lot longer to do it by starting out early in the morning
    rather than at lunchtime. Overall a good day just a shame that I crashed.

    The helmet is a 2 year old giro animas and will shortly be consigned to
    the bin, although I am tempted to see what giros crash replacement
    policy is like. Although the lid is still in one piece it has a fair few
    dings and must be compromised internally after that impact.
    Unfortunately I want to switch to MET helmets as they do the parachute
    which I think would suit me nicely.

  2. "David Waters" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hey all,

    Went riding with my brother in the Peak District of England on Sunday. We
    were attempting to ride a 45 mile loop and for those of you that are not
    familiar with the terrain in this part of the country the general saying
    is "if you don;t like hills or rocks, don;t go to the peak district". If
    you aint going down you are going up, there is no flat! For me this seemed
    a tad overambitious, but my brother being on the verge of the GB rowing
    team insisted he had to do his training so we set off.

    The weather was warm but was raining lightly on and off which made me cold
    and first but was imperceptible after a while and not ata ll unpleasant.
    The ride started off with a climb of about 200m in the first 2 miles and
    then became slightly easier going. This led into a nice relatively easy
    descent that led into another uphill where we came across a couple of
    women who were doing much the same circuit as us except that they were
    further along. Theyw ere also on full sussers whereas we were on hardtails
    so our riding pattern was slightly out. For this reason we didn't ride
    with them but they caught us up on the downhills and vice versa on the
    ups. After about 4 miles I realised that my suspension was set up way hard
    for the type of terrain we were riding. I was running 40psi on an 80mm
    travel fork while my brother was running 25 on a 100mm fork and was
    therefore a lot plusher. On every descent the bike was rattling hard and I
    was struggling to keep it under control. I was also having major problems
    with my front disk as the rotor kept coming loose and this caused massive
    juddering at the front end.

    15miles in, we were on a section which had a lot of gates so one of us was
    opening the gate for the other to ride through and get the next one ready.
    I had just closed the gate and was chasing after my bro pretty hard across
    undulating cross country terrain which the fork should have soaked up but
    didn't and I was getting quite badly out of shape. This then banked
    sharply into a steep downhill which I went for but didn't get the line
    quite right and was braking quite hard to try and regain control which
    caused the front to judder and the back end to slide (hardtails slide
    remember!). The downhill section had a switchback in it which I realised I
    wasn;t going to make and tried to bail out into the runoff/ make the bend/
    stop al; at the same time. This had the effect of me not going for the
    turn or going straight on and grabbing a whole heap of front brake. The
    front hit a rock and I was gone, bye-bye, face first into a muddy bank
    strewn with rocks.

    Fortunately I had a lid on which absorbed the shock and I am quite
    surprised it didn;t crack open as it was quite an impact. The bike was
    fine apart from a slightly bent v brake lever (disk up front, vees out
    back) and I was ok apart from a bloodied knee and quite shaken up.

    We managed another 4 or so miles until I realised that given the time we
    had allowed ourselves we (I) would be struggling to make it round to the
    end and that we needed to chop around 10 miles off the loop before my legs
    packed in totally. (I thinm tiredness was also partly to blame for the
    crash as I wasn't using my legs as shock absorbers properly due to
    fatigue) We couldn;t shave 10miles off, but we decided to stick to minor
    roads and made it back to the car with time to spare, out of fluids but
    reasonably in one piece. (he managed to ride into a hedge at one point!,
    rider and bike both fine)

    In total we rode about 40miles, 20 or so of which were off road on pretty
    technical (for my ability anyway) cross country trails. We have already
    decided that if I get out a fair bit and build up my fitness we will have
    another go at the same trail later in the summer and give ourselves a lot
    longer to do it by starting out early in the morning rather than at
    lunchtime. Overall a good day just a shame that I crashed.

    The helmet is a 2 year old giro animas and will shortly be consigned to
    the bin, although I am tempted to see what giros crash replacement policy
    is like. Although the lid is still in one piece it has a fair few dings
    and must be compromised internally after that impact. Unfortunately I want
    to switch to MET helmets as they do the parachute which I think would suit
    me nicely.


    Nice RR, what was he route. I'm localish to there and keep meaning to check
    it out.

    Andy H

  3. David Waters said:

    Hey all,

    Went riding with my brother in the Peak District of England on Sunday.
    We were attempting to ride a 45 mile loop and for those of you that are
    not familiar with the terrain in this part of the country the general
    saying is "if you don;t like hills or rocks, don;t go to the peak
    district".

    That's a pretty outrageous distance (at least for me)! The one really bad
    crash I've had was the result of being so worn out that I could no longer
    focus. It can be a problem...good that you made it out in one piece!

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