how often sun block?

recycled-one said:

I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

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How often do you reapply?

Pretty much never. But then I'm gifted with more melanin than the
average Anglo. I put some on when I did the one day STP, but that's
probably the only time I've bothered in the last five years or so.

Growing up, my friend Ross would step out into the sun and pretty much
burst into flame. 100% English on both sides of the family.

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I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

My daughter gets horrible rashes with anything over SPF 15, so that's what
we have in the house. I have a dim memory of the last time I was on a long
ride and it was sunny -- I think that was last year when we were in the
Rockies. Without the sunshine and therefore, without applying sunscreen, I
seem to have developed a bike tan anyway: from the short-sleeve jersey cuff
to the gloves; shorts cuff to the knee.

Usual practice is to apply in the morning; reapply at lunch.

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I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

And, if you're like me, it doesn't do one damn bit of good! The front of my
shins and the top of my arms gets darker and darker and the back of my legs
and underside of my arms stays pale. On a long ride, I used to try and
reapply sunblock, but it was like smearing mayonnaise around. My skin was
simply too wet from sweat. Somebody told me to carry alcohol wipes and
carefully wipe down my arms and legs before reapplying sunblock, but then it
takes 30 minutes for the stuff to work and what a drag all of that is!

Last week, I put some of the Blue Lizard sunblock on and it was like
varnishing my arms and legs with white spackel. It gathered in the creases
of my wrists and elbows. What was worse, it made me feel even hotter because
the sweat couldn't evaporate with a cooling feeling on my skin.

I like the gel sunblock, but even then, I doubt that it works very well.

Pat in TX

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Dane Buson said:

recycled-one <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like
there's no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how
often to reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it
is getting into early evening..

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How often do you reapply?

Quoted message said:

Pretty much never. But then I'm gifted with more melanin than the
average Anglo. I put some on when I did the one day STP, but that's
probably the only time I've bothered in the last five years or so.

Quoted message said:

Growing up, my friend Ross would step out into the sun and pretty much
burst into flame. 100% English on both sides of the family.

Be careful! While you may not "burn" as easily as some, you're just as
susceptible to skin damage and skin cancer.

I spent most of my spare time as a kid on or around the water, either
sailing or swimming or just hanging out at the beach. We never used
sunscreen. Until the 80s the danger was not widely recognized. So far
I'm safe, but many of our parents' generation, having led the same
lifestyle, are now struggling with melanoma. In fact most of them have
had some form of skin cancer. Unfortunately this is what many of them
will die of.

Nowadays I'm either covered or slathered whenever I'm in the sun.

BTW this is the worst time of year, close to the solstice, when the sun is
strongest. Late spring is misleading because it's still not so hot in
many places. But the sun is as strong in April as it is in August.

Matt O.

recycled-one said:

I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

I use a waterproof one and reapply every 4 hours or so. The waterproof
ones like Bullfrog are goopy but effective.

Matt O.

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Dane Buson said:

recycled-one <[email hidden]> wrote:

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How often do you reapply?

Quoted message said:

Pretty much never. But then I'm gifted with more melanin than the
average Anglo. I put some on when I did the one day STP, but that's
probably the only time I've bothered in the last five years or so.

Quoted message said:

Growing up, my friend Ross would step out into the sun and pretty much
burst into flame. 100% English on both sides of the family.

I'm fairly fair but not Englishman-burst-into-flames fair.

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Be careful! While you may not "burn" as easily as some, you're just as
susceptible to skin damage and skin cancer.

I spent most of my spare time as a kid on or around the water, either
sailing or swimming or just hanging out at the beach. We never used
sunscreen.

Me too. I grew up in Nova Scotia in the 1970's. For me the summer routine
was to go to the beach all day, everyday. After the first sunny day I would
burn and peel. After that I would just tan. People didn't worry about skin
cancer. Sunburns were an adjustment

A couple years ago during my physical my doc said 'You burned a lot in the
summer as a child?'

'Yup'.

Apparently that sort of exposure can mean skin cancer decades later. Not
much to do about it but keep an eye out for melanoma. At least it's one of
the most treatable forms.

Other than that I slather on the spf 45 when I go for long rides on sunny
days. On my vacation in 2004 [back to Nova Scotia for a cycle tour] did get
one bad burn. It was a hazy day and I neglected the back of my neck between
my hair line and my back pack. That was a _bad_ burn.

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How often do you reapply?

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My daughter gets horrible rashes with anything over SPF 15, so that's what
we have in the house. I have a dim memory of the last time I was on a long
ride and it was sunny

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-- I think that was last year when we were in the Rockies. Without the
sunshine and therefore, without applying sunscreen, I seem to have
developed a bike tan anyway: from the short-sleeve jersey cuff to the
gloves; shorts cuff to the knee.

I have a deep tan up to my knuckles then white fingers from where I grip
the handle bars.

recycled-one says...

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I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

I would use SPF 4 if it didn't make bugs and road grit stick to me.
Since it does, I don't use anything. But my rides are only 1.5 - 4.5
hours and I always have occasional shade in the rural areas I ride. I'm
a rather pale white guy, but that isn't much sun exposure even for me.
If I lived in a desert or other high sunshine area, I might change my
tune. Still, SPF 4 lets you stay out 4 times as long. I'd have to be
out all day for SPF 4 to be too weak.

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I would use SPF 4 if it didn't make bugs and road grit stick to me.
Since it does, I don't use anything. But my rides are only 1.5 - 4.5
hours and I always have occasional shade in the rural areas I ride. I'm
a rather pale white guy, but that isn't much sun exposure even for me.
If I lived in a desert or other high sunshine area, I might change my
tune. Still, SPF 4 lets you stay out 4 times as long. I'd have to be
out all day for SPF 4 to be too weak.

According to the news, it's not the SPF, it's the UVB that gets ya. The
story said most sunblocks can block UVA all day long but still let the UVB
go through. I don't know where you are, but it sure isn't Texas!

Pat

recycled-one said:

I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

Depends on where you live. I'm currently dealing with a fairly nasty
(for me) burn across most of my back because I forgot (again) that this
is the tropics and while my (nearly black) forearms don't give a damn
and my upper arms are mostly immune (two sleeveless jerseys) my back is
pretty pale and maybe wearing a bikini top for the first half of
Sunday's ride wasn't the best idea in the world.

I've been slathering moisturizer on it and if I'm real lucky it won't
peel. This is the third time I've done this since moving here two
years ago and only my fifth or sixth sunburn ever.

-M

recycled-one said:

Me too. I grew up in Nova Scotia in the 1970's. For me the summer routine
was to go to the beach all day, everyday. After the first sunny day I would
burn and peel. After that I would just tan. People didn't worry about skin
cancer. Sunburns were an adjustment

A couple years ago during my physical my doc said 'You burned a lot in the
summer as a child?'

'Yup'.

Apparently that sort of exposure can mean skin cancer decades later. Not
much to do about it but keep an eye out for melanoma. At least it's one of
the most treatable forms.

Very treatable if caught early. A horrible killer if not caught early.
I go to a dermatologist every 6 months because I spend a lot of time
at the beach and biking. At the beach I use the goop and a hat and
stay under an umbrella when lying around but you still can't avoid the
sun.

Matt O'Toole said:

Dane Buson said:

Pretty much never. But then I'm gifted with more melanin than the
average Anglo. I put some on when I did the one day STP, but that's
probably the only time I've bothered in the last five years or so.

Quoted message said:

Growing up, my friend Ross would step out into the sun and pretty much
burst into flame. 100% English on both sides of the family.

Be careful! While you may not "burn" as easily as some, you're just as
susceptible to skin damage and skin cancer.

Actually not true, the more melanin one has, generally the lower risk in
general you run for skin cancer and similar problems. Of course the
best protection is to limit exposure.

http://www.skincancer.org/melanoma/risk-factors.php

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Skin Coloring

The fairer the skin, the greater the risk of skin cancer. Melanin, the
substance that gives skin its color, also blocks some of the ultraviolet
energy from the sun. Nonetheless, this protection is not sufficient, and
contrary to what most people believe, dark-skinned individuals do get
skin cancer. The numbers, however, are much smaller than for those who
are naturally pale.
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I spent most of my spare time as a kid on or around the water, either
sailing or swimming or just hanging out at the beach. We never used
sunscreen.

I can only recall getting one sunburn as a child. Even now that I'm
cycling, most of cycling time is not during full sun hours (since it's
mostly back and forth to work). Evenings on the way home from work is
when I mostly get sun I suppose.

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BTW this is the worst time of year, close to the solstice, when the sun is
strongest. Late spring is misleading because it's still not so hot in
many places. But the sun is as strong in April as it is in August.

I suppose it also helps I live in Seattle, which is decidely not the
tropics.

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
BASIC is the Computer Science equivalent of `Scientific Creationism'.

recycled-one said:

I get really extreme with the sunblock: 45 spf. I also sweat like there's
no tomorrow. Even though I get the waterproof type I wonder how often to
reapply. I aim at every 90 minutes - 2 hours. Maybe less if it is getting
into early evening..

How often do you reapply?

I like this stuff:

http://www.auravita.com/products/AURA/KEYL10620.asp

Riemann P20. It's only factor 20 though - don't know if that's enough
for you.

It's a bit different in that you need to put it on at least an hour
before going out in the sun, and let it dry in. It's *no good at all*
if you use it like conventional sun block and lather it on as you go
out in the sun - no protection whatsoever, as my SO found out.

It's a clear liquid, very easy to apply and has no scent. There's no
greasy feeling on the skin once it's dried in - you wouldn't know
you're wearing it. It's selling point is that it should last all day,
is sweat and even swimming proof.

Lasts through day long rides in the sun on me, no need to reapply
despite lots of sweating - as long as you follow the instructions. If
you do, it's fire-and-forget.
I was a bit wary of it the first time I tried it, but now I'm a happy
camper. It's also a bit expensive (€20 for 200ml, I think) but you
don't need much, and you're only applying it once a day.

hth,

bookieb.

Pat in TX said:

According to the news, it's not the SPF, it's the UVB that gets ya.

Instead of spreading suntan lotion on what abt just
using proper clothing?

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Quoted message said:

According to the news, it's not the SPF, it's the UVB that gets ya.

Instead of spreading suntan lotion on what abt just
using proper clothing?

Attractive, but very costly. I just saw a white tee-shirt for $80 on the
Coolibar site.