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  1. In this Sunday's Observer Phil Hogan's column concerned itself with the school run:

    "Car trouble"

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling all
    over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The grown-up
    ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the roads are at this time in the morning?),
    expecting you to have eyes in the back of your head as they come up on the inside or outside (or
    perhaps over the top - who knows where they are!) when you're busy second guessing whether the
    cheery old lollipop man is about to step out and send us through the windscreen. "

    Full column at:

    <URL:http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1050868,00.ht
    ml>

    Colin

  2. Colin Blackburn said:

    In this Sunday's Observer Phil Hogan's column concerned itself with the school run:

    "Car trouble"

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the roads are at this time in the
    morning?), expecting you to have eyes in the back of your head as they come up on the inside or
    outside (or perhaps over the top - who knows where they are!) when you're busy second guessing
    whether the cheery old lollipop man is about to step out and send us through the windscreen. "

    Full column at:

    <URL:http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1050868,00.ht
    ml>

    Colin

    without bothering to read the article, do the writers take into account the lack of cars in the mely
    of the town squares heaving with kids on bikes.

    --
    Pete

    interchange 12 for 21 to reply

  3. It's the male version of Polly Filler from Private Eye....

    They say life imitates art but it's sort of sad when a writer sounds that much like a parody...

    "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:MPG.19e21498cc95ba25989ce9@localhost...

    Quoted message said:

    In this Sunday's Observer Phil Hogan's column concerned itself with the school run:

    "Car trouble"

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the roads are at this time in the
    morning?), expecting you to have eyes in the back of your head as they come up on the inside or
    outside (or perhaps over the top - who knows where they are!) when you're busy second guessing
    whether the cheery old lollipop man is about to step out and send us through the windscreen. "

    Full column at:

    <URL:http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1050868,00.ht
    ml>

    Colin

  4. Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<MPG.19e21498cc95ba25989ce9@localhost>...

    Quoted message said:

    In this Sunday's Observer Phil Hogan's column concerned itself with the school run:

    "Car trouble"

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"
    amateur arithmatic snipped , expecting you to have eyes in the back of your head as they come up
    on the inside or outside (or perhaps over the top - who knows where they are!)


    .... or perhaps expecting drivers to look in their mirrors ....

    Quoted message said:

    and send us through the windscreen. " ........ or perhaps anticipate the need to brake and slow
    down early..... Full column at:

    <URL:http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1050868,00.ht
    ml>

    Colin

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    without bothering to read the article, do the writers take into account the lack of cars in the
    mely of the town squares heaving with kids on bikes.

    To be honest Phil Hogan's columns could be described as containing humour. However, as it is humour
    based on his own family life I assume there is a grain of personal truth in it and that he is as
    clueless as many when it comes to these issues.

    Colin

  6. "Pete Whelan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Full column at:

    observer.guardian.co.uk0,11913,1050868,00.html

    Quoted message said:

    without bothering to read the article, do the writers take into account the lack of cars in the
    mely of the town squares heaving with kids on


    bikes.

    I skimmed it. Mostly Bollox [tm] but the last couple of sentences made some since -- "This isn't
    1958. If it were, we'd all be catching the bus. Now there's a crazy idea."

    So in a Hoganesque eutopia some children will catch buses (what are they?) -- which will reduce his
    2.3M wobbling Raleigh's.

    Presumably some will walk and some will (still) be driven.

    So 2.3M children could break down into, say:

    1.M pedestrians .5M cyclists .5M bus passengers .3M car passengers

    (Don't hold me to the numbers -- for illustration only).

    Hardly Tiananmen Square but one hell of a lot better than the current situation.

    T

  7. Colin Blackburn said:

    In this Sunday's Observer Phil Hogan's column concerned itself with the school run:

    "Car trouble"

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the

    <SNIP>

    There is a grain of truth in all this. I've just started riding with my 7 yr old to school. As the
    roads are narrow, we can generate quite a queue behind us.

  8. "[Not Responding]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    Undoubtedly we should blame it on the Government, along with everything else ;-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the

    Quoted message said:

    There is a grain of truth in all this. I've just started riding with my 7 yr old to school. As the
    roads are narrow, we can generate quite a queue behind us.

    By the age of 8 my son was well past the wobbling stage, and those much below 7 will be on trailer
    bikes or in trailers. Or tandems.

    As usual with cagers defending their lifestyle choice this is an excuse based on prejudice, rather
    than a valid reason.

    --
    Guy

    My other .sig is amusing

  9. Not Responding said:
    Quoted message said:

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the

    <SNIP>

    There is a grain of truth in all this. I've just started riding with my 7 yr old to school. As the
    roads are narrow, we can generate quite a queue behind us.


    But if they are all heading to the same place ( school) for the same time ,then there shoudn't be
    a problem.

    --
    Marc. Please note the above address is a spam trap, use marcc to reply Printing for clubs of all
    types jaceeprint.demon.co.ukjaceeprint.demon.co.uk Stickers, banners & clothing, for clubs,teams, magazines
    and dealers.

  10. (marc) said:
    Not Responding said:
    Quoted message said:

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists, but why blame it on the parents?"

    "[...] As for cycling to school, calculations by amateur mathematicians reveal that, given the
    average family size, a million school-run cars will translate into 2.3m junior Raleighs wobbling
    all over the place, transforming peaceful market towns into Tiananmen Square twice a day. The
    grown-up ones on bikes are bad enough (don't they know how busy the

    <SNIP>

    There is a grain of truth in all this. I've just started riding with my 7 yr old to school. As
    the roads are narrow, we can generate quite a queue behind us.


    But if they are all heading to the same place ( school) for the same time ,then there shoudn't be
    a problem.

    Quite.

  11. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by -Lsqnot Respond

    BOn Fri said:
    Not Responding said:
    Quoted message said:

    "The school run certainly causes grid lock for motorists


    <SNIP>

    There is a grain of truth in all this. I've just started riding with my 7 yr old to school. As
    the roads are narrow, we can generate quite a queue behind us.


    But if they are all heading to the same place ( school) for the same time ,then there shoudn't be
    a problem.

    Quite. [/B]

    leaving aside that it is a non-issue because:
    1 there is no absolute right not to have any other road user travel slower than you wish to travel.
    2 it makes no difference to their journey time anyway since that is (almost always) determined by junction capacities.

    it is still not a fair assumption that everyone in the queue is either going to the same destination nor want to arrive at the same time

    best wishes
    james

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