EMS

Nicholas Anthony said:

Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they work,
and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or building.
Thanks.

Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
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Nicholas Anthony said:

Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they work,
and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or building.
Thanks.

Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post op.
My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost allot of
muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes the pain
worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this may possibly
work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the muscle and feel
good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am in pain management
and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox injections. Anyway if
anyone can help please. Thanks!

Nicholas Anthony said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote

Quoted message said:

Nicholas Anthony said:

Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they work,
and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or building.
Thanks.

Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post op.
My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost allot of
muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes the pain
worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this may possibly
work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the muscle and feel
good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am in pain management
and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox injections. Anyway if
anyone can help please. Thanks!

I've read Ari's in a tight spot, but what scares me more than death
almost is what you're dealing with - pain that does not go away. What
does your pain management involve? OxyContin in there anywhere?

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Nicholas Anthony said:

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Quoted message said:

Nicholas Anthony said:

Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they work,
and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or building.
Thanks.

Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post op.
My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost allot of
muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes the pain
worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this may possibly
work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the muscle and feel
good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am in pain management
and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox injections. Anyway if
anyone can help please. Thanks!

These units might help prevent full atrophy during immobilisation of
joints, but (and hopefully someone will correct me with a recent peer
reviewed publication if I'm wrong) they won't help you build muscle.
You're going to need to work with someone experienced in sports medicine
and weight training if you want to regain size and strength in the
atrophied areas without injuring yourself. I've had to work through this
and it takes a while to learn to do things in the gym without
exacerbating problems. I've also considered a TENS unit for the
paralysis I have in my right vastus lateralis.

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

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Nicholas Anthony said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote

Quoted message said:

Nicholas Anthony wrote:
> Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they
> work,
> and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or
> building.
> Thanks.
>
> Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post
op.
My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost allot of
muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes the pain
worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this may
possibly
work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the muscle and
feel
good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am in pain management
and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox injections. Anyway if
anyone can help please. Thanks!

I've read Ari's in a tight spot, but what scares me more than death
almost is what you're dealing with - pain that does not go away. What
does your pain management involve? OxyContin in there anywhere?

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Hi Curt thanks for responding. I am on two types of oxycodine. One 5mg that
I take 8 a day is supposed to be instant and the other is 30mg (3pills*10)
timed release every 8hrs 3x a day. I also take Fentynal patches of 150mcg,
Motrin varies cut back from an ulcer, botox injections, and trigger point
injections. I was using a heating pad so often that I burnt the bloodvessels
in my skin causing a strange dark brownish look to a considerable part of my
back. I no longer use it although it helped the muscle pain. Lidodcaine
patches helped me sleep at times but the V-A no longer issues them so now I
am back to many sleepless nights. I am scheduled for acupuncture and
anesthesia pain management next month. I don't know what else to do this is
going on 3 years post op and 3.5yrs since the actual injury, oh and anti
depressants from all this so at least now I am a happier person with
excruciating chronic pain lol.

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Nicholas Anthony said:

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Quoted message said:

Nicholas Anthony wrote:

>Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they
>work,
>and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or building.
>Thanks.
>
>Nick

Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post
op. My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost
allot of muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes
the pain worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this
may possibly work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the
muscle and feel good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am
in pain management and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox
injections. Anyway if anyone can help please. Thanks!

These units might help prevent full atrophy during immobilisation of
joints, but (and hopefully someone will correct me with a recent peer
reviewed publication if I'm wrong) they won't help you build muscle.
You're going to need to work with someone experienced in sports medicine
and weight training if you want to regain size and strength in the
atrophied areas without injuring yourself. I've had to work through this
and it takes a while to learn to do things in the gym without exacerbating
problems. I've also considered a TENS unit for the paralysis I have in my
right vastus lateralis.

Regards,

Ari

--
spammage trappage: remove the underscores to reply

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Hi Ari ty for responding. I am getting atrophy in my left trap as well as my
arms shrinking in size. I asked my Doctor today who was injecting the botox
if the EMS will build muscle and he said no. I would be happy if it would at
least preserve what I have. Anyway if I learn more on my own I will try to
post it. So far all I get is advertisements and not clinical studies from
the search engines. Hope all is well.

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Quoted message said:

Hi Curt thanks for responding. I am on two types of oxycodine. One 5mg that
I take 8 a day is supposed to be instant and the other is 30mg (3pills*10)
timed release every 8hrs 3x a day. I also take Fentynal patches of 150mcg,
Motrin varies cut back from an ulcer, botox injections, and trigger point
injections. I was using a heating pad so often that I burnt the bloodvessels
in my skin causing a strange dark brownish look to a considerable part of my
back. I no longer use it although it helped the muscle pain. Lidodcaine
patches helped me sleep at times but the V-A no longer issues them so now I
am back to many sleepless nights. I am scheduled for acupuncture and
anesthesia pain management next month. I don't know what else to do this is
going on 3 years post op and 3.5yrs since the actual injury, oh and anti
depressants from all this so at least now I am a happier person with
excruciating chronic pain lol.

Christ, Nick. What was the injury? I mean, if you don't mind that line
of inquiry. And kudos to you on maintaining a sense of humor despite
your situation.

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Nicholas Anthony said:

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Nicholas Anthony said:

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote

>Nicholas Anthony wrote:
>
>>Hi I was wondering if anyone is using an EMS machine, how well they
>>work,
>>and which one is the best to look into for retaining muscle or
>>building.
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Nick
>
>Are you paralysed? Have an injury that needs physio?

I had surgery on my neck ACDF (anterior cervical disectomy with fusion,
titanium brace) c5-7. Cords were compressed on two levels deforming it on
one level. I am still in allot of pain and its been almost 3 years post
op.
My posture is getting worse as my back is getting weaker. I lost allot of
muscle size and wish I could hit the gym. Physical therapy makes the pain
worse as did osteo treatment. I was hoping a machine like this may
possibly
work. I have the TENS unit but all that does is massagge the muscle and
feel
good for perhaps 10-20mins then the pain comes on. I am in pain management
and as a matter of fact tomorrow getting more botox injections. Anyway if
anyone can help please. Thanks!

I've read Ari's in a tight spot, but what scares me more than death
almost is what you're dealing with - pain that does not go away. What
does your pain management involve? OxyContin in there anywhere?

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Hi Curt thanks for responding. I am on two types of oxycodine. One 5mg that
I take 8 a day is supposed to be instant and the other is 30mg (3pills*10)
timed release every 8hrs 3x a day. I also take Fentynal patches of 150mcg,
Motrin varies cut back from an ulcer, botox injections, and trigger point
injections. I was using a heating pad so often that I burnt the bloodvessels
in my skin causing a strange dark brownish look to a considerable part of my
back. I no longer use it although it helped the muscle pain. Lidodcaine
patches helped me sleep at times but the V-A no longer issues them so now I
am back to many sleepless nights. I am scheduled for acupuncture and
anesthesia pain management next month. I don't know what else to do this is
going on 3 years post op and 3.5yrs since the actual injury, oh and anti
depressants from all this so at least now I am a happier person with
excruciating chronic pain lol.

Some antidepressants can actually help chronic pain and are used in its
treatment. There are several usenet support groups, and you might want
to poke your head into alt.support.arthritis as we often get people
there who have had various and assorted spinal fusion surgeries as well
as degenerative disc diseases and spinal stenosis problems. There's a
wealth of experience over there. I have bad reactions to oxy*
painkillers and fentanyl (ever have every muscle in your body cramp up
from the xyphoid process down while dealing with a dozen fractures
around or below that level? not the sort of thing one does twice hehe)
and other opiate painkillers cause less severe reactions which can lead
to other complications, so I can really only take a couple of tylenol
(called panadol over here) a day mixed with a low grade synthetic
painkiller that I don't have bad reactions to yet. One of the first
things they'll ask over at alt.support.arthritis is 'what doctors are
you seeing?', as in are you seeing a doctor for pain management other
than a surgeon? They'll also ask if you've gotten a second (or third)
opinion about treatment and if they were all in accord. Also regarding
the antidepressants, there are some that can be used to assist sleeping,
too. I wonder if there's a common one that can be used for all three:
sleep, depression, and pain management?

Back to the topic of the EMS, I'm sure you already know this but do be
careful if you plan on using this on your trapezius muscle. It's
attachments are around the area of your injuries, and I'd be worried
about making a bad situation worse without proper supervision to start
out with (and a pain journal to watch for increasing pain associated
with ongoing use of the machine).

Regards,

Ari

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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/