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  1. It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Last year we did use leftover pasta after I used the first two chicken
    breast halves to make stuffed chicken parmesan in a tomato sauce. The
    remaining two chicken breast halves were used with artichoke hearts, etc. to
    prepare a second meal a couple of nights later with the leftover pasta. It
    worked out very well.

    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a kitchen
    provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides, this isn't a
    hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open. And now I'm not
    talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked frozen shrimp. Not
    like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your opinion, given I dreamt
    about this last night:

    Saute some broccoli florets in olive oil until tender-crisp. Throw in lots
    of garlic (I'm picturing 4-6 cloves, slivered) and maybe some sliced
    mushrooms. Continue to saute until garlic is lightly browned and mushrooms
    are tender. Deglaze the pan with a splash of white wine or squeeze a small
    lemon into the pan. Add medium-sized cooked frozen peeled deveined shrimp.
    Add half & half and simmer until the shrimp are heated through and the sauce
    has reduced. Season with salt & pepper, perhaps some Italian flat-leaf
    parsley (I don't want to go heavy on or buy a lot of herbs). Serve on a bed
    of pasta.

    And there's always hamburgers. He and I both love mushroom swiss burgers.

    The whole point of this is not to impress but to save money. We could go
    out for a steak dinner and spend $75, or we could make use of the kitchen in
    the room and spend about $15-20 for the same dinner. He's bringing the wine
    🙂 We could go to an Italian restaurant and spent $50 on a shrimp and pasta
    dinner, or (again) make a similar dinner in our room.

    NOTE: I'm not trying to nay-say any ideas but I *will* say I'm not carrying
    cooked food with me on the plane LOL I'm just trying to get a little
    creative without having to spend a fortune eating out for six days, four of
    which we'll be tired from working at the art show.

    Jill

  2. On Tue, 16 May 2006 14:12:38 -0500, in rec.food.cooking, "jmcquown"
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Last year we did use leftover pasta after I used the first two chicken
    breast halves to make stuffed chicken parmesan in a tomato sauce. The
    remaining two chicken breast halves were used with artichoke hearts, etc. to
    prepare a second meal a couple of nights later with the leftover pasta. It
    worked out very well.

    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a kitchen
    provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides, this isn't a
    hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open. And now I'm not
    talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked frozen shrimp. Not
    like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your opinion, given I dreamt
    about this last night:

    *snip rest of erratic ramblings for sanity's sake

    So it sounds like you have you mind already made up on the subject, so
    why the elongated brainfart to Usenet?

    Please spare us your errant thoughts, in short:

    Go blow a goat.

  3. jmcquown said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Saute some broccoli florets in olive oil until tender-crisp. Throw in lots
    of garlic (I'm picturing 4-6 cloves, slivered) and maybe some sliced
    mushrooms. Continue to saute until garlic is lightly browned and mushrooms
    are tender. Deglaze the pan with a splash of white wine or squeeze a small
    lemon into the pan. Add medium-sized cooked frozen peeled deveined shrimp.
    Add half & half and simmer until the shrimp are heated through and the sauce
    has reduced. Season with salt & pepper, perhaps some Italian flat-leaf
    parsley (I don't want to go heavy on or buy a lot of herbs). Serve on a bed
    of pasta.


    If you're concerned about stinking out other guests, then lose both the
    broccoli and the garlic. Both of those are very strong smelling.

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

    --Bryan

  4. jmcquown said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Last year we did use leftover pasta after I used the first two chicken
    breast halves to make stuffed chicken parmesan in a tomato sauce. The
    remaining two chicken breast halves were used with artichoke hearts, etc. to
    prepare a second meal a couple of nights later with the leftover pasta. It
    worked out very well.

    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a kitchen
    provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides, this isn't a
    hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open. And now I'm not
    talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked frozen shrimp. Not
    like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your opinion, given I dreamt
    about this last night:

    Saute some broccoli florets in olive oil until tender-crisp. Throw in lots
    of garlic (I'm picturing 4-6 cloves, slivered) and maybe some sliced
    mushrooms. Continue to saute until garlic is lightly browned and mushrooms
    are tender. Deglaze the pan with a splash of white wine or squeeze a small
    lemon into the pan. Add medium-sized cooked frozen peeled deveined shrimp.
    Add half & half and simmer until the shrimp are heated through and the sauce
    has reduced. Season with salt & pepper, perhaps some Italian flat-leaf
    parsley (I don't want to go heavy on or buy a lot of herbs). Serve on a bed
    of pasta.

    And there's always hamburgers. He and I both love mushroom swiss burgers.

    The whole point of this is not to impress but to save money. We could go
    out for a steak dinner and spend $75, or we could make use of the kitchen in
    the room and spend about $15-20 for the same dinner. He's bringing the wine
    🙂 We could go to an Italian restaurant and spent $50 on a shrimp and pasta
    dinner, or (again) make a similar dinner in our room.

    NOTE: I'm not trying to nay-say any ideas but I *will* say I'm not carrying
    cooked food with me on the plane LOL I'm just trying to get a little
    creative without having to spend a fortune eating out for six days, four of
    which we'll be tired from working at the art show.

    I can sympathize. I'm married to a Scout leader who loves outdoor
    cooking. Last year when we were forced to spend more days in a motel
    than we had anticipated while waiting for a ferry, I bemoaned the fact
    that we hadn't rented a housekeeping unit since it would be nice to
    have a home-cooked meal instead of blowing more of our budget on
    restaurants. I was reading a good book so didn't pay much attention
    when DH said he was going for a drive.

    I heard him return but he didn't come in to the room. After a while,
    getting curious, I looked out to see him sitting on a folding chair by
    the car. He had his one burner stove going and was cooking us supper:
    Salmon poached in a court bouillon, new potatoes, fresh green & yellow
    beans. It was delicious and a heck of a lot cheaper than we could have
    purchased in a restaurant.

    Gabby

  5. On 16 May 2006 12:43:24 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, "Food Snob"
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    If you're concerned about stinking out other guests, then lose both the
    broccoli and the garlic. Both of those are very strong smelling.

    As are your Jockey shorts, I'm sure.

  6. I guess I feel if I found it necessary to cook while traveling, I probably
    wouldn't go. A big part of travel for me is doing nothing I do at home,
    including cooking. I suppose for those who don't mind, it's fine.

    --

    Wayne Boatwright
    _____________________________________________________________

    "How can a nation be great if it's bread taste like Kleenex?"

    Julia Child

  7. Wayne Boatwright said:

    I guess I feel if I found it necessary to cook while traveling, I
    probably wouldn't go. A big part of travel for me is doing nothing I
    do at home, including cooking. I suppose for those who don't mind,
    it's fine.

    It's a paycheck, Wayne. Also an opportunity for me to see my long lost love
    again for the first time since February. It was my idea to cook in the
    room. I hate exhorbitant restaurant prices and often restaurant food, not
    to mention the suite with the kitchen is very nice.

    Jill

  8. On Tue 16 May 2006 01:21:27p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it jmcquown?

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne Boatwright said:

    I guess I feel if I found it necessary to cook while traveling, I
    probably wouldn't go. A big part of travel for me is doing nothing I
    do at home, including cooking. I suppose for those who don't mind,
    it's fine.

    It's a paycheck, Wayne. Also an opportunity for me to see my long lost
    love again for the first time since February. It was my idea to cook in
    the room. I hate exhorbitant restaurant prices and often restaurant
    food, not to mention the suite with the kitchen is very nice.

    Then for you, at this juncture, it makes perfect sense. I realize the trip
    is for business apart from the opportunity to be together. My situation
    for travel would simply be different.

    It should be an interesting challenge, nonetheless, and I'm sure you'll to
    a great job of it.

    --

    Wayne Boatwright
    _____________________________________________________________

    "How can a nation be great if it's bread taste like Kleenex?"

    Julia Child

  9. projectile vomit chick said:

    On 16 May 2006 12:43:24 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, "Food Snob"
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    If you're concerned about stinking out other guests, then lose both the
    broccoli and the garlic. Both of those are very strong smelling.

    As are your Jockey shorts, I'm sure.

    Commando.

    --Bryan

  10. jmcquown said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Just watch out for the hotel smoke detectors. Even a little smoke
    (sometimes just a little vapor) from normal cooking can set them off.
    Have a towel ready to wave in front of it to fan the smoke away. The
    hotels also tend to provide real thin pans. It's easy to overheat them.

    Don't ask me how I know. But I know. ;-)

    Rusty

  11. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves
    filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told
    him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Last year we did use leftover pasta after I used the first two chicken
    breast halves to make stuffed chicken parmesan in a tomato sauce. The
    remaining two chicken breast halves were used with artichoke hearts, etc.
    to
    prepare a second meal a couple of nights later with the leftover pasta.
    It
    worked out very well.

    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a kitchen
    provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides, this isn't a
    hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open. And now I'm not
    talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked frozen shrimp. Not
    like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your opinion, given I dreamt
    about this last night:

    Saute some broccoli florets in olive oil until tender-crisp. Throw in
    lots
    of garlic (I'm picturing 4-6 cloves, slivered) and maybe some sliced
    mushrooms. Continue to saute until garlic is lightly browned and
    mushrooms
    are tender. Deglaze the pan with a splash of white wine or squeeze a
    small
    lemon into the pan. Add medium-sized cooked frozen peeled deveined
    shrimp.
    Add half & half and simmer until the shrimp are heated through and the
    sauce
    has reduced. Season with salt & pepper, perhaps some Italian flat-leaf
    parsley (I don't want to go heavy on or buy a lot of herbs). Serve on a
    bed
    of pasta.

    And there's always hamburgers. He and I both love mushroom swiss burgers.

    The whole point of this is not to impress but to save money. We could go
    out for a steak dinner and spend $75, or we could make use of the kitchen
    in
    the room and spend about $15-20 for the same dinner. He's bringing the
    wine
    🙂 We could go to an Italian restaurant and spent $50 on a shrimp and
    pasta
    dinner, or (again) make a similar dinner in our room.

    NOTE: I'm not trying to nay-say any ideas but I *will* say I'm not
    carrying
    cooked food with me on the plane LOL I'm just trying to get a little
    creative without having to spend a fortune eating out for six days, four
    of
    which we'll be tired from working at the art show.

    It sounds good, but honestly, if I was cooking in a hotel room, and it was
    very short-term, and I was planning on being exhausted, I'd probably opt for
    things that didn't require much from me at all. It's not like this is a
    lifestyle, so if it's a little unbalanced, what difference does it make?

    And I wouldn't want to end up buying ingredients that I had to use up or
    throw away before I left, unless it was so cheap that I didn't care. Burger
    buns come in 8-packs...do you use condiments? Want pickles? Things you take
    for granted at home, you won't find in the hotel fridge. You're stuck buying
    everything from salt and pepper to butter and oil, all of which adds up. And
    if you forget something, you're not going to want to run out and get it at
    the last minute.

    Rotisserie chicken, bagged salad, some kind of nuked veggie or potato. That
    would be fine. Buy some pasta and a good jarred sauce, if you know there's
    one you like. Couple of steaks is simple.

    Find out if there's a good local deli and pick stuff up there. Pizza. Sub
    sandwiches. If this was a 3-week thing, cooking more complicated food might
    be worthwhile, but for a couple of days, I'd be eating stuff I don't eat
    much at home.

    By the way, what kind of art show is this? You mentioned Olathe...is there
    anything else in Colorado?

    Donna

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:


    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a kitchen
    provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides, this isn't a
    hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open. And now I'm not
    talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked frozen shrimp. Not
    like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your opinion, given I dreamt
    about this last night:

    Jill

    My kitchen vent fan vents to the outside. My kitchen windows open. You
    can still smell the strong smells after a bit. Do what you will --
    because you will anyway, right? :-) Cooked frozen shrimp? I'd be
    making shrimp creole - but that's just me - and my opinion. Have a good
    trip.

    --
    -Barb
    <http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 5/14/2006, Visit #17 to Mount
    Calvary.
    "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

  13. jmcquown said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Don't forget the shallots and shrooms. I'd prefer a ribeye, but I
    wouldn't turn up my nose at any good steak.

    Quoted message said:


    Saute some broccoli florets in olive oil until tender-crisp. Throw in lots
    of garlic (I'm picturing 4-6 cloves, slivered) and maybe some sliced
    mushrooms. Continue to saute until garlic is lightly browned and mushrooms
    are tender. Deglaze the pan with a splash of white wine or squeeze a small
    lemon into the pan. Add medium-sized cooked frozen peeled deveined shrimp.
    Add half & half and simmer until the shrimp are heated through and the sauce
    has reduced. Season with salt & pepper, perhaps some Italian flat-leaf
    parsley (I don't want to go heavy on or buy a lot of herbs). Serve on a bed
    of pasta.

    Sounds good to me. In fact, I'm kinda hungry now...

    Quoted message said:

    The whole point of this is not to impress but to save money. We could go
    out for a steak dinner and spend $75, or we could make use of the kitchen in
    the room and spend about $15-20 for the same dinner. He's bringing the wine
    🙂 We could go to an Italian restaurant and spent $50 on a shrimp and pasta
    dinner, or (again) make a similar dinner in our room.

    For me, the money saving works like this : Go to the store, and find a
    way to cook what's on sale. This means I'm usualy the idiot walking
    around the store in the unorthodox order. I hit the meat dept first,
    then go back to the produce. If I don't want to be an idiot, I'll read
    the flyers, but they don't always have the complete list of what's on
    sale.

    Dean G.

  14. jmcquown wrote on Tuesday, May 16, 2006:

    Quoted message said:

    It's a paycheck, Wayne. Also an opportunity for me to see my long lost love
    again for the first time since February. It was my idea to cook in the
    room. I hate exhorbitant restaurant prices and often restaurant food, not
    to mention the suite with the kitchen is very nice.

    Well, scatter some peanut shells on the floor and it will feel like
    you're in a
    restaurant. (or not)

  15. KevinS said:

    jmcquown wrote on Tuesday, May 16, 2006:

    Quoted message said:

    It's a paycheck, Wayne. Also an opportunity for me to see my long
    lost love again for the first time since February. It was my idea
    to cook in the room. I hate exhorbitant restaurant prices and often
    restaurant food, not to mention the suite with the kitchen is very
    nice.

    Well, scatter some peanut shells on the floor and it will feel like
    you're in a
    restaurant. (or not)

    Only if I can sue if I hurt my leg! LOL

  16. Rusty said:
    jmcquown said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He
    loves filet minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip.
    Heck, I even told him I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Just watch out for the hotel smoke detectors. Even a little smoke
    (sometimes just a little vapor) from normal cooking can set them off.
    Have a towel ready to wave in front of it to fan the smoke away. The
    hotels also tend to provide real thin pans. It's easy to overheat
    them.

    Don't ask me how I know. But I know. ;-)

    Rusty

    True, but when I cooked there last year it wasn't a problem. And the
    windows *do* open, for which I'm grateful. I like fresh air 🙂 As for the
    cookware, yes, it's thin, cheap stuff. If they provided top of the line
    imagine how much of it would walk out the door!

    Jill

  17. D.Currie said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It's two weeks until the trip and I've had a couple more thoughts.

    It was mentioned, and I'm leaning towards pan-fried steaks. He loves
    filet
    minon; I'd go with either that or pan-fried NY strip. Heck, I even
    told him
    I'd nuke "baked potatoes" LOL

    Last year we did use leftover pasta after I used the first two
    chicken breast halves to make stuffed chicken parmesan in a tomato
    sauce. The remaining two chicken breast halves were used with
    artichoke hearts, etc. to
    prepare a second meal a couple of nights later with the leftover
    pasta. It
    worked out very well.


    It sounds good, but honestly, if I was cooking in a hotel room, and
    it was very short-term, and I was planning on being exhausted, I'd
    probably opt for things that didn't require much from me at all. It's
    not like this is a lifestyle, so if it's a little unbalanced, what
    difference does it make?


    Well, for John it *is* a lifestyle. The poor guy generally stays in a
    campground and eats tuna-fish or grilled cheese sandwiches. LOL

    Quoted message said:

    And I wouldn't want to end up buying ingredients that I had to use up
    or throw away before I left, unless it was so cheap that I didn't
    care. Burger buns come in 8-packs...do you use condiments? Want
    pickles? Things you take for granted at home, you won't find in the
    hotel fridge. You're stuck buying everything from salt and pepper to
    butter and oil, all of which adds up. And if you forget something,
    you're not going to want to run out and get it at the last minute.


    True, but he carries basic stuff like mayo, mustard and pickles, even butter
    and olive oil in his insulated cooler in the truck (he empties and puts in
    fresh bags of ice every day). He has salt & pepper, stuff like that. We
    didn't spend much money on food last year and I didn't cook anything that
    would leave us with leftovers to discard unused. The hamburger buns might
    be a problem, you have a point there...

    Quoted message said:

    Rotisserie chicken, bagged salad, some kind of nuked veggie or
    potato. That would be fine. Buy some pasta and a good jarred sauce,
    if you know there's one you like. Couple of steaks is simple.

    If this was a 3-week thing, cooking more complicated
    food might be worthwhile, but for a couple of days, I'd be eating
    stuff I don't eat much at home.


    Heh, I don't eat like this at home. It's only rare occasions I cook
    anything like I'd expect to find in a restaurant 🙂 My home cooking tends
    to be pretty simple fare.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, what kind of art show is this? You mentioned Olathe...is
    there anything else in Colorado?

    Donna

    It's an outdoor fine arts show, although you'll find a few people who sell
    "crafts" things there. John is a freelance oil painter (all originals).
    There is also generally a lot of hand-blown glass, hand-made jewelry,
    pottery, stuff like that. The mention of Olathe is another show in Kansas
    (I can't remember the name of the park where they hold it). John doesn't
    work outside of the mid-west. It's too much effort to make the drive,
    especially now with gas prices the way they are. He's in a 22 ft. box van
    which he calls "home" when he's on the road unless I'm with him, then we
    find a hotel to stay in.

    Jill

  18. Hi, Jill,
    So glad you're going to see your sweetie. Chicken breasts stuffed with
    ham and spinach would work well, I would think. And a fabulous dessert
    (bought at the bakery) would be good. I hope you'll have a fabulous
    time!
    Cheers,
    Nancree

  19. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:


    Anyway, last night I had a dream about this. You fish nay-sayers may
    criticize all you wish, but I would think a hotel room that has a
    kitchen provides some sort of relief from cooking scents. Besides,
    this isn't a hermetically sealed suite; the windows actually open.
    And now I'm not talking about fish, I'm talking about already cooked
    frozen shrimp. Not like I'll be boiling cabbage. So I'd like your
    opinion, given I dreamt about this last night:

    Jill

    My kitchen vent fan vents to the outside. My kitchen windows open.
    You can still smell the strong smells after a bit. Do what you will
    -- because you will anyway, right? :-) Cooked frozen shrimp? I'd be
    making shrimp creole - but that's just me - and my opinion. Have a
    good trip.

    Thank you for your opinion and the good wishes. Actually, poor John has
    problems with things like shrimp creole. Anything more than a little black
    pepper and his mouth is burning. But you've given me another idea. Shrimp
    and sausage jambalaya (using the Zatarain's mix). I can use mild sausage
    for him and spice mine up in the bowl! Thanks!

  20. "Food Snob" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1147812389.623123.160540
    @j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:


    projectile vomit chick said:

    On 16 May 2006 12:43:24 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, "Food Snob"
    <[email hidden]> hit the crackpipe and declared:

    Quoted message said:

    >
    If you're concerned about stinking out other guests, then lose both


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    broccoli and the garlic. Both of those are very strong smelling.

    As are your Jockey shorts, I'm sure.

    Commando.

    --Bryan

    The *only* way to go :-)

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia

    At this spectacle even the most gentle must feel savage, and the most
    savage must weep.

    Turkish Officer
    400 Plateau
    24May1915

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