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16 Week Marathon training plan?

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  1. I ran my first marathon last Oct (Chicago). My time was around 4:20. I felt
    like I certainly had more in me at the end, but being my first, I just
    wanted to finish...

    In any case, I am training again. When I compare my training log now to that
    of last year I can see that I am clearly a stronger runner (i.e. running 4-6
    miles at 7:30 pace fairly easily, whereas last year it took me months to run
    at that pace). I certainly don't think I can get a Boston qualifying time my
    2nd marathon, but I want to train as though that is my goal. But I just
    don't know what sort of pace I should be doing training runs at. Also, my
    training is complicated by the fact that I am simultaneously training to
    climb Mt Rainier in July (a very tough endurance climb). One of the climbing
    guides said to not do my long weekend runs til after the climb. He said he
    has run several marathons and finds that to be a good rule.

    So given that I won't be starting my long runs (as in 12 miles plus) til 3rd
    week of July, what sort of plan should I be on? I have a way better base
    than last year. Right now I am running around 10 miles a week. I know that
    is well under the recommended base of 20-25 miles a week the month before
    training. But all the hiking I have been doing has my legs in very good
    shape (usually 1 10 mile, 6-8 hour hike per weekend, at good enough pace to
    keep my heart rate around 160 the entire time; and with 45 lb backpack) Any
    help is appreciated!

    thanks,

    brian

  2. Quoted message said:

    I ran my first marathon last Oct (Chicago). My time was around 4:20. I
    felt like I certainly had more in me at the end, but being my first, I
    just wanted to finish...

    In any case, I am training again. When I compare my training log now
    to that of last year I can see that I am clearly a stronger runner
    (i.e. running 4-6 miles at 7:30 pace fairly easily, whereas last year
    it took me months to run at that pace). I certainly don't think I can
    get a Boston qualifying time my 2nd marathon, but I want to train as
    though that is my goal. But I just don't know what sort of pace I
    should be doing training runs at.

    Have you recently run any shorter races? A 10K would be good just to see
    how far away you are from realistically shooting for a Boston qualifier.
    That's sort of how I did. But I didn't even think about it until I was
    running some 10K times that were in line with a BQ. Once you run your
    10K, plug the time into this web site:
    http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/rununiv/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm
    It will tell you what your marathon time would be, assuming you trained
    appropriately for it. You can also see what you get for the various
    training paces - long runs, easy runs, tempo runs, VO2 workouts, etc.

    --
    Phil M.


  3. Quoted message said:

    Have you recently run any shorter races? A 10K would be good just to see
    how far away you are from realistically shooting for a Boston qualifier.
    That's sort of how I did. But I didn't even think about it until I was
    running some 10K times that were in line with a BQ. Once you run your
    10K, plug the time into this web site:
    http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/rununiv/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm
    It will tell you what your marathon time would be, assuming you trained
    appropriately for it. You can also see what you get for the various
    training paces - long runs, easy runs, tempo runs, VO2 workouts, etc.


    Nice link, thanks

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Phil M.

  4. Brian Huether said:

    I ran my first marathon last Oct (Chicago). My time was around 4:20. I felt
    like I certainly had more in me at the end, but being my first, I just
    wanted to finish...

    In any case, I am training again. <snip>

    I'm training for the Chicago Marathon this year myself--first time! (C:
    The most helpful site I've found, both for training plans and for
    advice, is Hal Higdon's site:

    http://www.halhigdon.com/

    Hal is the author of "Marathon: The Ultimate Training Guide". His site
    has a lot of training plans and advice on it, plus there are great
    interactive forums:

    http://www.trainingpeaks.com/halforumslogin.asp

    The audience there is very knowledgable, very encouraging, and since
    Hal moderates the forums, there are no spam/off topic/offensive posts!
    (C:

    Hope this helps, and best of luck!

    Jim


  5. Quoted message said:

    So given that I won't be starting my long runs (as in 12 miles plus) til 3rd
    week of July, what sort of plan should I be on? I have a way better base
    than last year. Right now I am running around 10 miles a week.

    I hope you talking about a 2008 Chicago marathon with that kind of
    base.
    I'd work the next two years, running year round, to get the base up to
    40 to 60 miles a week, then start working in the long runs.

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