? about tire that I can't get on!

Aman,

I have never used these specific tires, but I have some Bontragers who
are also quite the pain to get on! I once got blisters on my thumbs,
when they were brand new. You can actually purchase levers to gain a
bit of advantage to pull that bead up over the rim.

That said, with time and miles your tire should loosen up a bit, making
it easier to use the thumbs

David

Aman said:

Hi,

I'm setting up a wheel-set to do light touring on.
I just got a pair of Continental Top Touring 2000 tires,
28mm and foldable. So far I have been trying to get one on
my rim for about an hour without pinch flatting the
tube. I have almost worn my fingers raw. My question is
that if I do get the tire on will it be this hard to get
it back on? Like when I get a flat inevitably. Is the tire
supposed to be nearly impossible to get on? Anybody had
a similar experience with these tires?

Thanks for any input, Alex

Aman said:

Hi,

I'm setting up a wheel-set to do light touring on.
I just got a pair of Continental Top Touring 2000 tires,
28mm and foldable. So far I have been trying to get one on
my rim for about an hour without pinch flatting the
tube. I have almost worn my fingers raw. My question is
that if I do get the tire on will it be this hard to get
it back on? Like when I get a flat inevitably. Is the tire
supposed to be nearly impossible to get on? Anybody had
a similar experience with these tires?

Thanks for any input, Alex

Some tires are like that, but many times the problem can be eased by
changing to a thinner rim strip. This will give you more slack to pry
the tire bead over the rim. In extreme cases, substituting
fiberglass-reinforced packing tape in needed- it's much thinner than
just about of the usual rim strips.

Jeff

Jeff

Aman said:

Hi,

I'm setting up a wheel-set to do light touring on.
I just got a pair of Continental Top Touring 2000 tires,
28mm and foldable. So far I have been trying to get one on
my rim for about an hour without pinch flatting the
tube. I have almost worn my fingers raw. My question is
that if I do get the tire on will it be this hard to get
it back on? Like when I get a flat inevitably. Is the tire
supposed to be nearly impossible to get on? Anybody had
a similar experience with these tires?

I had that with some Conti 4000's I got last winter. I never did get
them on even with packing tape rim stripping. I bought the wheels /
tires into an LBS where much cursing ensued. Eventually, and many tubes
later, they got them on using a large machine.

I've got > 1,000 miles on them w/o a flat. I figure if they flat and are
tough to change out, I'll have to switch tires because I can't see this
as a reasonable fix in the field. Of course, they may stretch out some.
I don't really know.

-paul

Paul Cassel said:

Quoted message said:

I had that with some Conti 4000's I got last winter. I never did get
them on even with packing tape rim stripping. I bought the wheels /
tires into an LBS where much cursing ensued. Eventually, and many tubes
later, they got them on using a large machine.

I've got > 1,000 miles on them w/o a flat. I figure if they flat and are
tough to change out, I'll have to switch tires because I can't see this
as a reasonable fix in the field. Of course, they may stretch out some.
I don't really know.

-paul

I had a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires that I struggled with the
back, gave up, and had the LBS install.
When I flatted 400 miles later, I had no trouble replacing the tube
and the tire went back on the rim, with little trouble.

Later, I found out about the following tools.

For the first install, I think the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack is the
answer.
http://koolstop.com/brakes/accessories.html
Scroll down, to see.

It's a little big to carry though. For that, if using a 700x23, then
the Easy Hand fits the need.
http://www.thebiketool.com/en/

The few times that I have flatted, I think the adrenaline of the
situation, makes getting that tire on, just a little easier.

How do you like the Conti 4000s, otherwise?

Life is Good!
Jeff

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff Starr

() said:

Paul Cassel said:

Quoted message said:

I had that with some Conti 4000's I got last winter. I never did get
them on even with packing tape rim stripping. I bought the wheels /
tires into an LBS where much cursing ensued. Eventually, and many tubes
later, they got them on using a large machine.

I've got > 1,000 miles on them w/o a flat. I figure if they flat and are
tough to change out, I'll have to switch tires because I can't see this
as a reasonable fix in the field. Of course, they may stretch out some.
I don't really know.

-paul

I had a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires that I struggled with the
back, gave up, and had the LBS install.
When I flatted 400 miles later, I had no trouble replacing the tube
and the tire went back on the rim, with little trouble.

Later, I found out about the following tools.

For the first install, I think the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack is the
answer.
http://koolstop.com/brakes/accessories.html
Scroll down, to see.

It's a little big to carry though. For that, if using a 700x23, then
the Easy Hand fits the need.
http://www.thebiketool.com/en/

The few times that I have flatted, I think the adrenaline of the
situation, makes getting that tire on, just a little easier.

How do you like the Conti 4000s, otherwise?

I commend unto The Panel the VAR tyre lever:

<URL:http://www.bikeplus.co.uk/graphics/Var_Tyre_Lever_Instructions.jpg>

The Schwalbe Marathon Slicks on my trike are absolute sods to get on and
off, but when the P+nct+r+ Fairy visited on the Spurn Head 400 a couple
of weeks ago, application of the VAR had the tyre back on in ten seconds
flat.

Getting it off, OTOH, was a PITA as the valve stem was so coated with
Skog(tm) it took ten minutes of swearing to unscrew the knurled ring...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

search to 'DIY tire repair 3'

Hi,

I got it on, mostly with my hands and the very last bit with
a plastic tire lever. No pinch flat! The rim strip is quite
thick which may have made it so hard. It seems like a good
quality tire so I'm gonna keep it.

Thanks for the help, Alex

Hopefully the rim strip will seat and the tire will stretch a bit
so that if I get a flat I won't have to curse up a storm, again.

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff Starr

() said:

Paul Cassel said:

>
>
I had that with some Conti 4000's I got last winter. I never did get
them on even with packing tape rim stripping. I bought the wheels /
tires into an LBS where much cursing ensued. Eventually, and many tubes
later, they got them on using a large machine.

I've got > 1,000 miles on them w/o a flat. I figure if they flat and

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tough to change out, I'll have to switch tires because I can't see this
as a reasonable fix in the field. Of course, they may stretch out some.
I don't really know.

-paul

I had a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires that I struggled with the
back, gave up, and had the LBS install.
When I flatted 400 miles later, I had no trouble replacing the tube
and the tire went back on the rim, with little trouble.

Later, I found out about the following tools.

For the first install, I think the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack is the
answer.
http://koolstop.com/brakes/accessories.html
Scroll down, to see.

It's a little big to carry though. For that, if using a 700x23, then
the Easy Hand fits the need.
http://www.thebiketool.com/en/

The few times that I have flatted, I think the adrenaline of the
situation, makes getting that tire on, just a little easier.

How do you like the Conti 4000s, otherwise?

I commend unto The Panel the VAR tyre lever:

<URL:http://www.bikeplus.co.uk/graphics/Var_Tyre_Lever_Instructions.jpg>

The Schwalbe Marathon Slicks on my trike are absolute sods to get on and
off, but when the P+nct+r+ Fairy visited on the Spurn Head 400 a couple
of weeks ago, application of the VAR had the tyre back on in ten seconds
flat.

Getting it off, OTOH, was a PITA as the valve stem was so coated with
Skog(tm) it took ten minutes of swearing to unscrew the knurled ring...

I love the VAR tire lever. In the US, it can be found here:

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=728339185246&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Ti
re%20and%20Tube&tc=Tire%20Levers&item_id=VR-425

Jeff Starr said:

I had a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires that I struggled with the
back, gave up, and had the LBS install.
When I flatted 400 miles later, I had no trouble replacing the tube
and the tire went back on the rim, with little trouble.

Later, I found out about the following tools.

For the first install, I think the Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack is the
answer.
http://koolstop.com/brakes/accessories.html
Scroll down, to see.

It's a little big to carry though. For that, if using a 700x23, then
the Easy Hand fits the need.
http://www.thebiketool.com/en/

The few times that I have flatted, I think the adrenaline of the
situation, makes getting that tire on, just a little easier.

How do you like the Conti 4000s, otherwise?

Thanks Jeff. I'll look at those. My Crank bros tool isn't up to the task
of putting these on / off.

I like the 4000's fine, but I'm so new to the is entire riding of
bicycles that my opinion should carry almost no weight.

-paul

Dave Larrington said:

I commend unto The Panel the VAR tyre lever:

<URL:http://www.bikeplus.co.uk/graphics/Var_Tyre_Lever_Instructions.jpg>

The Schwalbe Marathon Slicks on my trike are absolute sods to get on and
off, but when the P+nct+r+ Fairy visited on the Spurn Head 400 a couple
of weeks ago, application of the VAR had the tyre back on in ten seconds
flat.

Getting it off, OTOH, was a PITA as the valve stem was so coated with
Skog(tm) it took ten minutes of swearing to unscrew the knurled ring...

Sods? P+nct+r+ Fairy? Skod? Two countries separated by a common
language, it seems.

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Cassel

() said:

Sods? P+nct+r+ Fairy? Skod? Two countries separated by a common
language, it seems.

Sod: Disagreeable or stubborn person or object.

P+nct+r+ Fairy: Supernatural being responsible for dispensing p+nct+r+s
to the innocent. The word must /never/ be written in full, coz that's
ASKING for it.

Skog(tm): That mixture of mud, grit, water, leaves, grass and cowshit
which accumulates in the centre of the traditional BRITISH lane, usually
from October to May. Gums up moving parts a treat, often contains
little gifts from the P+nct+r+ Fairy.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
I am now returned from both the seventeenth century and the Post Office.

Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Cassel

() said:

Sods? P+nct+r+ Fairy? Skod? Two countries separated by a common
language, it seems.

<snop>

Quoted message said:

Holy cats, that actually made sense. Now if I can only figure out why
Dave likes Mexican beer...

Jeff

In article <[email hidden]>,

JeffWills () said:

Dave Larrington said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Cassel

() said:

Sods? P+nct+r+ Fairy? Skod? Two countries separated by a common
language, it seems.

<snop>

Quoted message said:

Holy cats, that actually made sense. Now if I can only figure out why
Dave likes Mexican beer...

The limited number of /drinkable/ alternatives available in Battle
Mountain probably has something to do with it...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Like Kant, it is my wish to create my own individual epistemology. But I
also wish to find out what is for pudding.