I need help with rain gear.

Steve Knight wrote: <snip><< looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a jacket that will
not cook in? any better ways to go?>>

That sounds about right. Get a nice waterproof/breathable jacket. Preferably with side zips. Also
medium weight polypro or wool long sleeve jersey thing.

<<I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry.>>

Full front and rear fenders are the answer.

<<what about my shoes? >>

Smartwool socks. Two pair if it's cold.

Robert

Hey Steve haven't seen much of you anymore after Neanderthal Haven shut down. Where do you guys hangout now? Due to problems at home I never had the chance to put to use those beaytiful planes I bought either. :-(

Their well stored though, because who knows what the future will bring.
George

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Full front and rear fenders are the answer.

Agreed. And don't forget the front mudflap.

Joe

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Steve Knight wrote: <snip><< looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a jacket that
will not cook in? any better ways to go?>>

That sounds about right. Get a nice waterproof/breathable jacket. Preferably with side zips. Also
medium weight polypro or wool long sleeve jersey thing.

<<I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry.>>

Full front and rear fenders are the answer.

<<what about my shoes? >>

Smartwool socks. Two pair if it's cold.

Robert

Steve-

I'll ditto everything Robert said, particularly since I'm right next door (I live in Vancouver, WA
and commute into downtown Portland). If your feet are susceptible to cold (mine are), get some
neoprene booties.

For the rest of me, I have a couple different thicknesses of Sugoi cycling jackets (1 shell, 1 with
insulation), long-sleeve jerseys, and a couple thicknesses of tights. I've never found it necessary
to wear waterproof pants when the bike has fenders on it.

(Aside: if you want to attract attention to your business, consider a set of wood fenders. Dave at
River City Bicycles makes some for his customers and a friend of mine built his own.)

Also consider that a lot of your heat regulation is through your head. I'm a little unconventional:
I wear a cotton bandana under my helmet year-round. So far it *hasn't* been cold enough that this is
uncomfortable, even in January.

See you on the road!

Jeff

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<<I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry.>>

Full front and rear fenders are the answer.

My bike is a racing bike so I can only do so much. I found some nice fenders made for a racing bike
that snap on the forks and back braces.

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<<what about my shoes? >>

Smartwool socks. Two pair if it's cold.

good. Lots to figure out for sure.

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Hey Steve haven't seen much of you anymore after Neanderthal Haven shut down. Where do you guys
hangout now? Due to problems at home I never had the chance to put to use those beaytiful planes I
bought either. :-(

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this is the place now.

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Steve Knight wrote: <snip><< looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a

jacket that

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will not cook in? any better ways to go?>>

That sounds about right. Get a nice waterproof/breathable jacket.

Preferably

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with side zips. Also medium weight polypro or wool long sleeve

jersey thing.

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<<I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry.>>

Full front and rear fenders are the answer.

<<what about my shoes? >>

Smartwool socks. Two pair if it's cold.

Robert

Steve-

I'll ditto everything Robert said, particularly since I'm right next door (I live in Vancouver, WA
and commute into downtown Portland). If your feet are susceptible to cold (mine are), get some
neoprene booties.

What a crowd from PDX!

Booties are a must-have if you ride to work because socks will not dry out before its time to go
home. Neopreme or Goretex socks may be a possibility, but I cannot get into them, or get them into
my shoes -- plus my shoes stay wet. My Sidetrack covers have worn out, and I am going to buy full
booties this time. Anyone have a recommendation?

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For the rest of me, I have a couple different thicknesses of Sugoi cycling jackets (1 shell, 1
with insulation), long-sleeve jerseys, and a couple thicknesses of tights. I've never found it
necessary to wear waterproof pants when the bike has fenders on it.

I use a Burley jacket which has lots of vents. It is more floppy than the Sugoi, which is a nice
jacket, too.

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(Aside: if you want to attract attention to your business, consider a set of wood fenders. Dave at
River City Bicycles makes some for his customers and a friend of mine built his own.)

God, what a waste of good wood those things are. No offense to River City, but art-fenders just do
not cut it on a commuter bike. Hell, by the second week of fall, I usually cannot make out the
brands of my components (although the weather this year is spectacular and the whole U.S. should be
jealous). Water-proof pants also are a waste of time. Any tights will do (pull them over the top of
your booties to avoid wicking). Do not get padded tights because they take too long to dry.

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Also consider that a lot of your heat regulation is through your head. I'm a little
unconventional: I wear a cotton bandana under my helmet year-round. So far it *hasn't* been cold
enough that this is uncomfortable, even in January.

See you on the road!

I avoid cotton anything in the rain. The OP apparently is new to town. He should go to a local shop
and get some good winter tires and a light. The Avocets are often recommended. I will probably use
Avocet 25mm tires or Conti wire bead tires when it gets really wet. Koolstop salmon pads. Disposable
chains. -- Jay Beattie.

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Here in portland oregon I am going to get rained on no matter what (G) I got this puppy off of ebay
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comes out to maybe a medium size. So hopefully I can sell it without much loss. now I need to
figure out what is right for me. I am not sure if will be

riding

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in hard rain or not. depends on how comfy I can be. in portland it can get pretty cold and be
raining. looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a jacket that will not cook in? any
better ways to go? I am debating on if I need to keep my legs

dry.

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what about my shoes?

When you bike in the rain you have a choice of getting soaked by the rain or by your sweat. None
of the waterproof jackets breath enough to keep you from getting soaked in your own sweat. You
should keep your legs dry. Some folks use a rain cape. It looks a bit funny, but it is supposed
to work well. The other options is waterproof pants of some type. A front fender will help keep
your feet dry.
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Some folks use a rain cape. It looks a bit funny, but it is supposed to work well.

I think those are a good choice. Breath better than jackets.

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The other options is waterproof pants of some type.

I wear relatively inexpensive Red Ledge DWR pants if it's raining hard.

Another option to the jacket is a cycling windbreaker washed with Nikwax. It breaths well, but I've
never tried it in heavy rain.

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A front fender will help keep your feet dry.

My front fender tended to dump water on my feet. I mostly fixed it with a tape & wire mudflap
extension.

Take a look at the Rainshield jacket at (www.rainshield.com). It is a good breathable jacket and
it's inexpensive. There are several retailers listed on the website. You can order from any of them
but Penn Cycle has the best price (about $25 plus shipping). Seems too cheap to be true but I like
mine better than the Performance Goretex jackets I've had over the years.

I bought Burley shoe covers from the Adventure Cycling store (Cyclesource I think it's called) for
about $20 and they look like they're gonna be fine. I've had them for a couple of years but I've
been lucky and have yet to test them in the rain.

Good luck,
Bob

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Here in portland oregon I am going to get rained on no matter what (G) I got this puppy off of
ebay cgi.ebay.comeBayISAPI.dllOpen ↗ but the size is way off. I bet
it comes out to maybe a medium size. So hopefully I can sell it without much loss. now I need to
figure out what is right for me. I am not sure if will be riding in hard rain or not. depends on
how comfy I can be. in portland it can get pretty cold and be raining. looks like about 140.00 is
what I need to spend for a jacket that will not cook in? any better ways to go? I am debating on
if I need to keep my legs dry. what about my shoes?

(Bob Taylor) said:

Take a look at the Rainshield jacket at (www.rainshield.com). It is a good breathable jacket and
it's inexpensive. There are several retailers listed on the website. You can order from any of them
but Penn Cycle has the best price (about $25 plus shipping). Seems too cheap to be true but I like
mine better than the Performance Goretex jackets I've had over the years.

wonder how it compares to the burley? the price is sure attractive right now.

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looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a jacket that will not cook in? any better
ways to go? I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry. what about my shoes?

Pit zips are good for ventilation.

Shimano SPD sandals and, when it cool or cold, Gortex type socks. Sealskinzs have been a better
value in the past.

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(Jeff Wills) said:

I'll ditto everything Robert said, particularly since I'm right next door (I live in Vancouver, WA
and commute into downtown Portland). If your feet are susceptible to cold (mine are), get some
neoprene booties.

not sure. here in portland it has not gotten cold in awhile (G)

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(Aside: if you want to attract attention to your business, consider a set of wood fenders. Dave at
River City Bicycles makes some for his customers and a friend of mine built his own.)

yes I have seen them they are only about 6 blocks from my shop. but I have a racing bike so I can
only use a limited selection of fenders.

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Also consider that a lot of your heat regulation is through your head. I'm a little unconventional:
I wear a cotton bandana under my helmet year-round. So far it *hasn't* been cold enough that this
is uncomfortable, even in January.

I may wear a hat with a bill so I can keep the rain off my glasses.

I am looking at this coat for the light needs days
performancebike.comProfile.cfmOpen ↗ or one like it at a local store. it seems
well vented and feels good to wear and 50.00 is not too bad of a price.

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Steve Knight said:

looks like about 140.00 is what I need to spend for a jacket that will not cook in? any better
ways to go?

You can get cold/wet from rain, get warm/wet from sweat, or buy (for rather less than L140) a
cycling cape.

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I am debating on if I need to keep my legs dry.

I see you cannot fit full mudguards. Not a chance in hell - indeed, if you cannot manage partial
mudguards the cape is unviable. Wear something that dries quickly.

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what about my shoes?

Waterproof booties.
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