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  1. I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious as to
    how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit of
    500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    Tim

  2. Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    If people are willing to pay for it, surely it's up to them how much they
    charge.

    I should think a fair chunk of that will go towards police marshalling (I
    believe they have closed roads for some of the course).

    If you can't afford it, ride an Audax -- much more friendly and much
    cheaper!

  3. Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious as to
    how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit of
    500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    It's a similar cost to the entry fee for L'Etape.

    There's quite alot they are providing, and it is of course a business
    venture.

    The road closures probably don't come in cheap, especially if the
    police are charging for their time like they do round my way.

    Then there's all the food and water stations, the hire of the
    electronic timing gear, and the broom wagon.

    They'll be making a good profit I would expect but not, I would say,
    one that would be considered unfair.

  4. Simon Bennett said:
    Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    If people are willing to pay for it, surely it's up to them how much
    they charge.

    I suppose so, but I'd be happier knowing that either there's a d*nm big
    post-ride goody bag or it's supporting local charities.

    Quoted message said:

    I should think a fair chunk of that will go towards police
    marshalling (I believe they have closed roads for some of the course).

    I'm not quite sure how they can close roads on that route without seriously
    inconveniencing the residents. Still, I know that these things do cost
    money to put on. It just seems rather a lot though.

    Quoted message said:


    If you can't afford it, ride an Audax -- much more friendly and much
    cheaper!

    See "First Audax report". ;-)

    Tim

  5. Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious as to
    how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit of
    500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    200 riders seem to think it is an acceptable entry fee.

    John B

  6. John B said:
    Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    200 riders seem to think it is an acceptable entry fee.

    Can't argue with that. ;-)

    Tim

  7. Tim Downie said:
    Simon Bennett said:
    Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    If people are willing to pay for it, surely it's up to them how much
    they charge.

    I suppose so, but I'd be happier knowing that either there's a d*nm big
    post-ride goody bag or it's supporting local charities.

    A fivers worth of goody bag would be nice, anything more would
    seriously exceed expectations.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I should think a fair chunk of that will go towards police
    marshalling (I believe they have closed roads for some of the course).

    I'm not quite sure how they can close roads on that route without seriously
    inconveniencing the residents. Still, I know that these things do cost
    money to put on. It just seems rather a lot though.

    There are probably more riders than residents on that route. Applecross
    when busy makes the quietest parts of the rest of the UK look like
    piccadily circus at rush hour.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    If you can't afford it, ride an Audax -- much more friendly and much
    cheaper!

    Cheaper because it is self organised. If you want a) organised timing
    b) route marshalls (instead of following the rider in front and hoping
    they know where they are going c) sag wagon and organised feed stations
    then ride a sportif like this. Otherwise do Audax.

    ...d

  8. "Simon Bennett" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Quoted message said:

    If people are willing to pay for it, surely it's up to them how much they
    charge.

    Quoted message said:

    I should think a fair chunk of that will go towards police marshalling (I
    believe they have closed roads for some of the course).

    Quoted message said:

    If you can't afford it, ride an Audax -- much more friendly and much
    cheaper!

    Audax is cheap because volunteer helpers aren't paid for their efforts.
    If all concerned were paid £5 per hour, the fees would rocket...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  9. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Tim Downie

    (') said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious
    as to how they justify and entry fee of 25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit
    of 500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    I'm charging £10 a rider for entry into 7/24, and I don't have to
    organise rolling road closures, with its attendant motor cycle
    marshalls and so on. I think £25 for Bealach Na Ba is pretty damned
    reasonable.

    People aren't making much money from this, if any. If these things
    wash their faces they're doing well.

    Hadn't thought about the rolling road closures thing. As you say, it does
    sound like it'll cost a fair bit to put on.

    Money sent off. Gotta do it now!

    Tim

  10. Tim Downie said:

    I'm quite tempted by this event
    (http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-ba/index.htm) but I'm curious as to
    how they justify and entry fee of £25.

    Given that they've got over 200 entries in already (and have a limit of
    500), that's a fairly tidy sum the organisers will be collecting!

    Is this typical for this sort of thing?

    Just going off that list they need to :

    Print 500 certificates
    Provide food for 500 people times X amount of feed stations
    Print 500 route maps
    Probably provide transport for marshals to route points.
    Probably pay for the road closures as well as I guess they'll need
    Police.
    Fuel the broom wagon.

    £25 is not unreasonable.
    --
    http://www.addict-racing.com

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