Another Dead Mountain Biker!

On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:15:07 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I thought that mountain biking was supposed to be healthful....

Mike

This info comes from Port Orchard, Washington, via NSMB.com

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05-21-2006, 02:31 PM #1
fireguy23
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Offline Eventful day

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So I was out riding today and to interesting things happened. the
first is about 2 min. into my ride on this new trail where I go I come
across two dogs. One runs back off into the bushes but the other one
follows me for the duration of my ride, a beautiful black lab named
Luca, his tags had a phone number but I'd figured I'd finish my ride
with my new riding buddy before I found his owner since there was no
one around in the first place. I came across two other guys while I
was riding one wasn't the owner and the other didn't own the dog put
did know him. He was a dog know there for hooking up with riders and
runners and keeping them company while they ride around. And his home
is on the back side of the forest, coincidently near where I found
him. That guy said he had to take him home once because Luca was
playing out on the street. With this new found knowledge when I got
back to the truck I called the owner who was a very nice lady who said
she let him out to pee before she went to pick up her kids from school
and he never came back, so she met me at the parking area and thanked
me for finding him, and ended up going on a walk with her kids and the
dog anyway, and I thanked her for having the dog along for the ride
for the afternoon.
The other story came from that first guy I came along, when I asked
him if the dog was his he said no and we got to talking, while the dog
did laps around me, and he had mentioned he had found a dead body on
the trail on Saturday. My reply was YER JOKIN RIGHT! so he told me the
story. He came across a man face down in the bushes near his bike on
one of the more well know and fairly technical trails. He checked his
vitals, there were none, the body felt slightly warm he said, so he
called 911 and they had him do CPR for about ten minutes, until some
hikers came along they continued CPR so he could go meet EMS at the
entrance and show them where they were at. The body had to be in his
50's the guy told me and in his opinion it was a heart attack since
there was no obvious trauma, the guy also said he had to file a
complete flight plan with his wife before riding today, it was kind of
funny, but understandable. Guess there's no better way to go then to
go doing what you love.
Yesterday, 02:32 PM #5
fireguy23
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Offline the area is called banner forest its in port orchard,
washington

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"Wildlife needs to have a life cycle, which includes death" Jeffrey W.
Ryan, mountain biker, [email hidden]

I guess that applies to mountain bikers also....
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Mike Vandeman said:

On Wed, 24 May 2006 02:15:07 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I thought that mountain biking was supposed to be healthful....

Mike

Quoted message said:

I guess that applies to mountain bikers also....

and you. we're waiting.

Ahhh yes....based on a forum article, Dr. Vandeman, MD, has concluded
that mountain biking was the cause.

You have examined the medical records and performed an autopsy on the
deceased, of course. He had no existing medical conditions? The
possibility of an allergic reaction has been eliminated? He had a
chemical reaction with the mountain bike that caused the cessation of
life? You are certain it would not have happened riding on the road (as
you are a proponent of that activity)? Driving in a car? Walking on a
hiking trail? Sitting down for dinner?

Should I post the article about someone who choked at a restaurant with
the title "Another dead diner!" and imply, based on the article, that
eating is bad and those who eat should stop?

Nice smoke and mirrors show, Mike.

Michael Halliwell

Mike Vandeman said:

I thought that mountain biking was supposed to be healthful....

As opposed to say...WALKING?

The following was posted to RB-MISC. Please note the mode of
transportation...

*******

Family, friends recall man killed near White Rock

08:40 AM CDT on Tuesday, May 23, 2006

By EMILY GOLDSTEIN / The Dallas Morning News

For pedestrians and bikers who frequent White Rock Lake, 63-year-old
Richard Sartain was a familiar sight. Many remember his near daily walks
that sometimes were punctuated with outbursts of dancing.

Michael Sartain said his father, a retired financial adviser and day
trader, usually circled the lake about five times a week. "He would walk
around the lake and he would stop in the parking lots and do this weird,
tribal dance," the son said Monday.
Richard W. Sartain

On Friday evening, Richard Sartain was struck by an accused drunken
driver as he walked along the shoulder in the 400 block of East Lawther
Drive. He died at the scene. Since his death, Michael Sartain said,
e-mails have been pouring in from people who recalled seeing him at the
lake.

"He just had this happiness about him," said Richard Sartain's sister,
Barbara Taylor. "When he was killed, he was doing what he loved, which
was walking around White Rock Lake."

According to Dallas police, driver Astrid Karlsson, 60, of Dallas was
northbound when Mr. Sartain was hit. Ms. Karlsson eventually lost
control of the car, causing it to overturn. She was taken to Baylor
University Medical Center, where she was in fair condition, a hospital
spokeswoman said.

Ms. Karlsson has been charged with intoxication manslaughter, failure to
stop and render aid and driving with a suspended license, police said.

Ms. Karlsson's license was suspended earlier this year for three months
ending June 4, Department of Public Safety records state. In May, she
pleaded guilty to a charge of driving while intoxicated stemming from a
November arrest, according to Dallas County criminal court records.

She could not immediately be reached for comment.

Mr. Sartain grew up in Highland Park and attended Southern Methodist
University, where his father, Aaron Q. Sartain, was a professor and dean
of the business school. His mother taught at the Dallas Country Day
School, now St. Mark's School of Texas, and at the Vickery Ward School.
Both preceded him in death.

Mr. Sartain graduated with a business degree from SMU and served as a
Peace Corps volunteer stationed in Colombia during the late 1960s.

Michael Sartain said his father became interested in national security
after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and began educating
himself about Islam. Some days, he would attend both church and a
mosque, the son said.

Through Dallas Fellowship Church, he was involved in Youth Believing In
Change, which offers after-school and summer programs for area children
and is designed to build character through a spiritual and educational
foundation.

The Rev. Vincent Gaddis said participants who loved watching him dance
came to expect Mr. Sartain's presence at the group's activities. "We
called him 'Fancy Dancer' because he always danced at our events," Rev.
Gaddis said.

A husband to Maria for 30 years and the father of two sons, Richard
Sartain belonged to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. He also
volunteered for Habitat for Humanity and Mothers Against Drunk Driving,
Ms. Taylor said.

Services were scheduled for 3 p.m. Thursday at Fellowship Dallas. The
family asked that donations be made to Habitat for Humanity.

E-mail [email hidden]

Mike Vandeman wrote:

<<nothing of consequence as usual>>

maybe with a bit of luck we'll be reading about a hiker/sudo
environmentalist dying one day too. And no little one that's not a
threat so don't go whining about it.

Michael Halliwell said:

Ahhh yes....based on a forum article, Dr. Vandeman, MD, has concluded
that mountain biking was the cause.

You have examined the medical records and performed an autopsy on the
deceased, of course. He had no existing medical conditions? The
possibility of an allergic reaction has been eliminated? He had a
chemical reaction with the mountain bike that caused the cessation of
life?

You and I both know that mountain biking is the most likely cause.
Mountain bikers are still in denial.

You are certain it would not have happened riding on the road (as

Quoted message said:

you are a proponent of that activity)? Driving in a car? Walking on a
hiking trail? Sitting down for dinner?

Should I post the article about someone who choked at a restaurant with
the title "Another dead diner!" and imply, based on the article, that
eating is bad and those who eat should stop?

Nice smoke and mirrors show, Mike.

Michael Halliwell

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Hikers are dying in droves. Just check Google News:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=hiker+killed
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=hiker+dead

You and I both know that hiking is the most likely cause.
Hikers are still in denial.

BAN DEADLY HIKING TODAY! CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN!

Hiking is the most dangerous activity on the planet! See:

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2006/05/01/news/news27.txt

DEADLY, DEADLY, DEADLY!! MURDER! RAPE! TORTURE! DEATH!

HIKING IS EVIL! BAN ALL HIKING TO PROTECT THE HIKERS!

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Quoted message said:

Hiking is the most dangerous activity on the planet! See:

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2006/05/01/news/news27.txt

DEADLY, DEADLY, DEADLY!! MURDER! RAPE! TORTURE! DEATH!

HIKING IS EVIL! BAN ALL HIKING TO PROTECT THE HIKERS!

I will admit that you have to keep your wits about you when you are hiking
or you can get into an awful lot of trouble real fast. I have seen hikers
doing things that just dumbfounded me, like sliding down snow banks in the
mountains without having any idea at all of what they might go crashing
into. I have seen hikers walk perilously close to roaring creeks where one
misstep would mean their death. Same thing around water falls and high
cliffs. Let's face it, some folks do not have the brains they were born
with. There are dozens of way to get yourself killed just from a simple walk
in the wilderness.

But still, there is nothing more dangerous than riding your bike down a
steep rocky slope in the mountains. You truly have to be crazy to want to do
that!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota