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  1. Reported on the Beeb today: ..

    news.bbc.co.uk3120558.stm

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park his bike there, so much for
    government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and taking the bus to school in
    an attempt to cut congestion.

    Rich

  2. "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reported on the Beeb today: ..

    news.bbc.co.uk3120558.stm

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park


    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and
    taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Rich


    As I've said before.... /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school
    wanted to come in on their bike!!..... /git mode off/

  3. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As I've said before.... /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school
    wanted to come


    in

    Quoted message said:

    on their bike!!..... /git mode off/

    I think it would be a very good thing - I can't imagine why there should be chaos!

    Rich

  4. "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park


    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and
    taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Same at the school our eldest will probably attend. Parents and bus drivers drive like
    tossers, solution: get everyone else off the road (i.e. don't even think about addressing the
    actual problem).

    --
    Guy
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  5. Dave said:

    "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reported on the Beeb today: ..

    news.bbc.co.uk3120558.stm

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park


    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and
    taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Rich


    As I've said before.... /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school
    wanted to come in on their bike!!..... /git mode off/

    Chaos??????

    Why? Sounds a pretty good situation to me.

    Now if every pupil came in a car...

    Whoops that's what happens now isn't it?

    John B

  6. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Dave
    As I've said before.... /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school
    wanted to come in on their bike!!..... /git mode off/ [/B]

    There will be far less chaos than if every parent took their kid to school by car!!! There would need to be suitable storage though.

    I work at a university that has very poor storage for commuters (limited and out doors).

    I am a racing cyclist and when in halls, was told that I was not allowed a bike in my room and the university couldn't provide any covered/secure space for my bike to be kept. This is a really sad situation given that I go to a university that has one of the biggest and most succesful Exercise and Sport Science Departments in it. Needless to say, I kept my three bikes in my room!!!!

  7. SO.........when his bike is stolen what then, then you would be onto the shcool for a replacement or
    hassle the shcule to get decent deterrents & they haven't even the resources to teach the children
    let alone worry about bike security

    its not 1970 its 2003......... I used to cycle to school in the 70's........wouldn't even allow my
    son to ride his bike to skooooooool unless he took the English bull terrier as the ''lock''....

    I didn't du 2 well at skuul , never got the grasp of why I was there
    !!!!!!!!

    D@vo the bigger the ring the more it hurts

    "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reported on the Beeb today: ..

    news.bbc.co.uk3120558.stm

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park


    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and
    taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Rich

  8. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Reported on the Beeb today: ..

    news.bbc.co.uk3120558.stm

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him


    park

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more


    children

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    walking, cycling and taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Rich


    As I've said before.... /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school
    wanted to


    come in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on their bike!!..... /git mode off/

    Chaos??????

    Why? Sounds a pretty good situation to me.

    Now if every pupil came in a car...

    Whoops that's what happens now isn't it?

    John B

    hence the /git mode on/ gents. Personal view, ideal situation...however, those pessimistic types
    would view 300 bikes all turning up at the same time, trying to access 300 cycle parking spaces
    etcetc as potential chaos. You've seen the TdF when they all start falling over. Just imagine it in
    the rush to leave school at the end of the day... ;-)

  9. "Davo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    SO.........when his bike is stolen what then, then you would be onto the shcool for a replacement
    or hassle the shcule to get decent deterrents & they haven't even the resources to teach the
    children let alone worry about bike security

    its not 1970 its 2003......... I used to cycle to school in the 70's........wouldn't even allow my
    son to ride his bike to skooooooool unless he took the English bull terrier as the ''lock''....

    I didn't du 2 well at skuul , never got the grasp of why I was there
    !!!!!!!!

    D@vo the bigger the ring the more it hurts


    Wow!!

  10. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Dave wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    /git mode on/ ...but just imagine the chaos if every child in the school wanted to


    come in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on their bike!!..... /git mode off/

    Chaos??????

    Why? Sounds a pretty good situation to me.

    At a secondary school? Sounds like sheer [censored]. Bad enough trying to get 800-2000 kids off the
    grounds and onto buses and pavements.

    I can only visualise it for about half a second before my brain blots it out. It'd be like a cross
    between those films of the ship yards finishing for the day and (very wobbly) massed start race,
    with punching and bag throwing involved. I'm coming to see the reasoning of it all.

    Kids should be banned (was going to add something about bikes but wont bother).

    Quoted message said:

    Now if every pupil came in a car...

    Whoops that's what happens now isn't it?

    No, plenty walking and bus too.

  11. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Chaos?????? Why?

    I think you may be infected with the W32.LiteralInterpretation virus.

    --
    Guy
    ===

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  12. In message <[email hidden]>, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    "Richard Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In brief: Father wants son to cycle to school, school won't let him park


    his

    Quoted message said:

    bike there, so much for government's 'new initiative' to get more children walking, cycling and
    taking the bus to school in an attempt to cut congestion.

    Same at the school our eldest will probably attend. Parents and bus drivers drive like tossers,
    solution: get everyone else off the road (i.e. don't even think about addressing the actual
    problem).


    Indeed. I like the bit in the report where it says that there are possible plans for cyclists to be
    able to leave their bikes at a local leisure centre and walk the rest of the way (i assume it isn't
    that much of a walk.)

    If the vehicles make the road so dangerous. Surely the sensible course of action would be for the
    buses and cars to drop off at the leisure centre and leave the road for people to safely cycle and
    walk down???
    --
    Chris French, Leeds

  13. Just zis Guy said:

    "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Chaos?????? Why?

    I think you may be infected with the W32.LiteralInterpretation virus.

    Nah, I'm all Mac :-)

    John B

  14. "chris French" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Indeed. I like the bit in the report where it says that there are possible plans for cyclists to
    be able to leave their bikes at a local leisure centre and walk the rest of the way (i assume it
    isn't that much of a walk.)

    I suggest a new policy: "Carelessly driven motor vehicles are the leading cause of death in school
    children in the UK, so regrettably the school cannot allow students to be brought to school by car.
    Ample secure cycle parking is provided, and there is an excellent and frequent bus service. We have
    made arrangements with the Council to allow those parents who insist on using cars to drop their
    children at the station bus stop, which is approximately ten minutes' walk from the school and
    served by a bus every eight minutes during peak periods"

    Dream on...

    --
    Guy
    ===

    WARNING: may contain traces of irony. Contents may settle after posting.
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  15. In article <[email hidden]>, no- [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    hence the /git mode on/ gents. Personal view, ideal situation...however, those pessimistic types
    would view 300 bikes all turning up at the same time, trying to access 300 cycle parking spaces

    300 spaces? 300 bikes trying to access 299 spaces would be more fun.

    Colin

  16. W K said:

    At a secondary school? Sounds like sheer [censored]. Bad enough trying to get 800-2000 kids off
    the grounds and onto buses and pavements.

    The difference is that if they are going on the bus, they _have_ to get to the bus at a certain
    time. If they are going by bike, they leave whenever they are ready, which will give a much
    wider departure window; so you wouldn't get quite the same chronic situation. It would also help
    if the school located several cycle storage units around the site, rather than having them all
    in one place.

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  17. Quoted message said:

    300 spaces? 300 bikes trying to access 299 spaces would be more fun.

    But only when the music stops

    Richard Webb

  18. (RJ Webb) said:

    But only when the music stops

    Beat me to it.

    The problem, IMO, lies with the parents. Little Johnny falls over little Billy's bike and grazes his
    knee. Johnny's mother sues the school for umpteen thousand pounds. "He'll be ... like ... damaged
    for life, he will," said Johnny's shell-suit wearing, chain-smoking mother. Johnny's father could
    not be found.

    Billy's parents are also considering legal action. They saw a bandwagon and jumped.

    As much as I dislike it, I can see why schools ban the use of bikes on their property.

    End of social commentary.

    James

    --
    "Sorry mate, I didn't see you" is not a satisfactory excuse.

  19. "James Hodson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As much as I dislike it, I can see why schools ban the use of bikes on their property.

    And yet many schools provide space for the storage of mobile death greenhouses.

    --
    Guy
    ===

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  20. On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:42:14 +0100 someone who may be James Hodson
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    As much as I dislike it, I can see why schools ban the use of bikes on their property.

    I can't. It is only bikes that they pick on. Other things that "shell-suit wearing, chain-smoking
    mothers" could sue over are not banned. I question the double standards, especially when the most
    likely cause of danger is teachers driving their cars into school.

    --
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