Vibration Training Update

I read that discussion and was contemplating rigging something up ...

I have a couple pairs of vibration motors (for a home theater) and
saved some bedsprings when we threw out our boxsprings when we got a
new bed.

Now all I need is motivation and time.

The vibration motors I have are the Aura "Pro Bass Shakers"
a search on "aura bass" on ebay comes up with
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=aura+bass&category0=

You would probably want the "pro" ones, model AST-2B-04, which are
stronger
I have no idea if the shakers would be strong enough, but from what I
remember from the discussion last time around, they should be more than
adequate.
There are also stronger units than the aura ones, but they are more
expensive.

Frequency and amplitude are easily adjusted using a tone generator, or
a test tones CD
In fact, there are freeware programs available that let your PC work as
a tone generator through the sound card.

If you pursue it, let me know, it was one of the more interesting
threads at the time.

Martin Bakalorz

Lee Michaels said:

We had a discussion in here a year or two ago concerning the use of
vibration training. Some of us mused on how difficult it would be to build
such a machine.

A couple unique features of this type of training is that it works the
eccentric, "shock absorbing" aspects of the muscles. The first workouts
produce lots of soreness, like any kind of new eccentric type of training.
It also increases flexibility. I have no idea why that happens.

Powerplate has come out with new vibration machines. You can see them at

http://www.powerplateusa.com/

They have a home model now for about four grand.

But what piqued my curiosity was that soloflex has entered this market. They
have their own version of this kind of device. Much cheaper at $400. They
apparently also offer the machine to convert other items into a vibrational
training device for $250. See them at

http://www.soloflex.com/

I wonder how sturdy or effective soloflex's machine is. It is a different
approach. I think it could be quite useful for certain populations. The
primary problem I see with it is, like many mass produced fitness products,
it is supposed to do many things at once. So people have to position
themselves in various ways on the product. This requires more strength and
agility than many of the markets that could most benefit from it.

I can see great potential for building a series of machines. A commercial
line would be just the ticket for many folks who are looking for something
new. The gyms could profit nicely from it. It is new. And even as a fad
item, it could get people into the gym and start exercising. The equipment
could be cheaper than many weight stack machines.

And a few home based peices could be made as well. Maybe with a vibration
unit that could be easily moved from on machine to another for the budget
conscious.

My own personal interest would to get some some the vibration motors and
build a few different units. I think they would be great for certain types
of rehab machines. It would be fun to play with. I am really curious as to
which groups and levels of fitness would respond well to this type of
training.

Lee Michaels

"Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I read that discussion and was contemplating rigging something up ...

I have a couple pairs of vibration motors (for a home theater) and
saved some bedsprings when we threw out our boxsprings when we got a
new bed.

Now all I need is motivation and time.

The vibration motors I have are the Aura "Pro Bass Shakers"
a search on "aura bass" on ebay comes up with
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=aura+bass&category0=

You would probably want the "pro" ones, model AST-2B-04, which are
stronger
I have no idea if the shakers would be strong enough, but from what I
remember from the discussion last time around, they should be more than
adequate.
There are also stronger units than the aura ones, but they are more
expensive.

Frequency and amplitude are easily adjusted using a tone generator, or
a test tones CD
In fact, there are freeware programs available that let your PC work as
a tone generator through the sound card.

If you pursue it, let me know, it was one of the more interesting
threads at the time.

Martin Bakalorz

I can't do anyting soon, but I am definitely looking at what I can do along
these lines. I think there may be some potential for strengthening some
connetive tissue with the vibrational training as well.

I am wondering if a few basic stations built from wood could be the basis of
a good little vibrational home gym. It certainly would be cheap and easy to
put together if you had the space for it.

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

We had a discussion in here a year or two ago concerning the use of
vibration training. Some of us mused on how difficult it would be to
build such a machine.

A couple unique features of this type of training is that it works the
eccentric, "shock absorbing" aspects of the muscles. The first workouts
produce lots of soreness, like any kind of new eccentric type of training.
It also increases flexibility. I have no idea why that happens.

Powerplate has come out with new vibration machines. You can see them at

http://www.powerplateusa.com/

They have a home model now for about four grand.

But what piqued my curiosity was that soloflex has entered this market.
They have their own version of this kind of device. Much cheaper at $400.
They apparently also offer the machine to convert other items into a
vibrational training device for $250. See them at

http://www.soloflex.com/

I wonder how sturdy or effective soloflex's machine is. It is a different
approach. I think it could be quite useful for certain populations. The
primary problem I see with it is, like many mass produced fitness
products, it is supposed to do many things at once. So people have to
position themselves in various ways on the product. This requires more
strength and agility than many of the markets that could most benefit from
it.

I can see great potential for building a series of machines. A commercial
line would be just the ticket for many folks who are looking for something
new. The gyms could profit nicely from it. It is new. And even as a fad
item, it could get people into the gym and start exercising. The equipment
could be cheaper than many weight stack machines.

And a few home based peices could be made as well. Maybe with a vibration
unit that could be easily moved from on machine to another for the budget
conscious.

My own personal interest would to get some some the vibration motors and
build a few different units. I think they would be great for certain types
of rehab machines. It would be fun to play with. I am really curious as
to which groups and levels of fitness would respond well to this type of
training.

Hmmm. So maybe the old Gloria Marshall Figure Salons were on the right track
with the vibrating belt machines?

This company makes a bunch of different industrial vibrators for precast
concrete, parts sorting, etc. - don't know if anything would be of use to
you.

http://www.vibco.com/

"Ranieri" <nah> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

We had a discussion in here a year or two ago concerning the use of
vibration training. Some of us mused on how difficult it would be to
build such a machine.

A couple unique features of this type of training is that it works the
eccentric, "shock absorbing" aspects of the muscles. The first workouts
produce lots of soreness, like any kind of new eccentric type of
training. It also increases flexibility. I have no idea why that happens.

Powerplate has come out with new vibration machines. You can see them at

http://www.powerplateusa.com/

They have a home model now for about four grand.

But what piqued my curiosity was that soloflex has entered this market.
They have their own version of this kind of device. Much cheaper at $400.
They apparently also offer the machine to convert other items into a
vibrational training device for $250. See them at

http://www.soloflex.com/

I wonder how sturdy or effective soloflex's machine is. It is a
different approach. I think it could be quite useful for certain
populations. The primary problem I see with it is, like many mass
produced fitness products, it is supposed to do many things at once. So
people have to position themselves in various ways on the product. This
requires more strength and agility than many of the markets that could
most benefit from it.

I can see great potential for building a series of machines. A
commercial line would be just the ticket for many folks who are looking
for something new. The gyms could profit nicely from it. It is new. And
even as a fad item, it could get people into the gym and start
exercising. The equipment could be cheaper than many weight stack
machines.

And a few home based peices could be made as well. Maybe with a vibration
unit that could be easily moved from on machine to another for the budget
conscious.

My own personal interest would to get some some the vibration motors and
build a few different units. I think they would be great for certain
types of rehab machines. It would be fun to play with. I am really
curious as to which groups and levels of fitness would respond well to
this type of training.

Hmmm. So maybe the old Gloria Marshall Figure Salons were on the right
track with the vibrating belt machines?

This company makes a bunch of different industrial vibrators for precast
concrete, parts sorting, etc. - don't know if anything would be of use to
you.

http://www.vibco.com/

Thank you. I will put the URL into my Industrial & Parts folder.

I installed a vibrator on a waterbed once. The bed was upstairs in an old
house with hollow walls. (no insulation) I essentially made the house into
a giant speaker. Absolutely gauranteed to [censored] everybody off in the house.
It was like a loud mechanical roar.

Martin said:

I have a couple pairs of vibration motors (for a home theater) and
saved some bedsprings when we threw out our boxsprings when we got a
new bed.

Now all I need is motivation and time.

Dally could use that stuff, and a 12 cylinder turbo charged engine to
power her vibrator.