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  1. Tried this vegan recipe from the Washington Post

    1 1/2 cups flour
    1/3 cup cocoa powder
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1 cup sugar
    1/2 cup vegetable oil
    1 cup cold water or cold brewed coffee
    2 teaspoons vanilla extract
    2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar

    Preheat the oven to 375 degrees.

    Sift together dry ingredients (flour, cocoa powder, baking soda, salt
    and sugar) into an ungreased 8-inch-square or 9-inch-round cake pan. In
    a small bowl, mix the oil, water or coffee, and vanilla extract. Gently
    shake the pan to level the dry ingredients. Pour the liquid ingredients
    into the baking pan with the dry ingredients and mix together until the
    batter is smooth. Add the vinegar, which will create pale streaks in
    the batter. Stir until the streaks are evenly distributed. Bake for
    25-30 minutes and set aside to cool.

    Damn tasty, for a vegan cake. So?

    One problem with this recipe is the absence of eggs to bind the cake
    together makes the cake looser and crumblier than I would like. So,
    figuring the gluten in bread flour would toughen it up a little, I
    substituted bread flour. That did indeed firm it up to my satisfaction.

    The problem is, I can't keep the damn thing from falling. The first
    time, it seemed to rise a little less, then collapse rather
    dramatically. The edges are okay (pan is 8" square). It's the center
    that falls...too much to cover up with frosting. The center still
    tastes okay, but it's embarassing.

    I thought it might be overrising, so I remade it with LESS baking
    powder and vinegar (3/4 tsp. baking powder and 1 1/2 tbsp. vinegar).
    Took it out of the oven 10 minutes ago....looks flatter, but not
    perfect. I might settle for this recipe, if the taste and texture is
    right. But what's going on here? Chemists, get out your Sherlock Holmes
    hats!

    One issue: the bread flour is old (ummm....maybe 5 - 10 years old). It
    was stored in an airtight container. The all purpose flour used the
    first time was fresh, however. Thoughts?

    Art

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    Tried this vegan recipe from the Washington Post

    1 1/2 cups flour
    1/3 cup cocoa powder
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1 cup sugar
    1/2 cup vegetable oil
    1 cup cold water or cold brewed coffee
    2 teaspoons vanilla extract
    2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar

    Preheat the oven to 375 degrees.

    Sift together dry ingredients (flour, cocoa powder, baking soda, salt
    and sugar) into an ungreased 8-inch-square or 9-inch-round cake pan. In
    a small bowl, mix the oil, water or coffee, and vanilla extract. Gently
    shake the pan to level the dry ingredients. Pour the liquid ingredients
    into the baking pan with the dry ingredients and mix together until the
    batter is smooth. Add the vinegar, which will create pale streaks in
    the batter. Stir until the streaks are evenly distributed. Bake for
    25-30 minutes and set aside to cool.

    Damn tasty, for a vegan cake. So?

    One problem with this recipe is the absence of eggs to bind the cake
    together makes the cake looser and crumblier than I would like. So,
    figuring the gluten in bread flour would toughen it up a little, I
    substituted bread flour. That did indeed firm it up to my satisfaction.

    The problem is, I can't keep the damn thing from falling. The first
    time, it seemed to rise a little less, then collapse rather
    dramatically. The edges are okay (pan is 8" square). It's the center
    that falls...too much to cover up with frosting. The center still
    tastes okay, but it's embarassing.

    I thought it might be overrising, so I remade it with LESS baking
    powder and vinegar (3/4 tsp. baking powder and 1 1/2 tbsp. vinegar).
    Took it out of the oven 10 minutes ago....looks flatter, but not
    perfect. I might settle for this recipe, if the taste and texture is
    right. But what's going on here? Chemists, get out your Sherlock Holmes
    hats!

    One issue: the bread flour is old (ummm....maybe 5 - 10 years old). It
    was stored in an airtight container. The all purpose flour used the
    first time was fresh, however. Thoughts?

    Art

    This is also known as Wacky cake. I've been making it for a really long
    time using almost the identical recipe. I always use all purpose flour.
    Did you use baking soda or baking powder? That might make a bit of a
    difference. I've always found this cake to be very moist and not crumbly at
    all. It almost always falls a little bit though. Make sure your oven is
    preheated to the full temp when you put it in and that helps the falling
    some. This cake is also better the next day after the flour has had time to
    absorb the oil. I never put frosting on them either.

    Ms P

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