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  1. A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

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  2. "Lovely EvilOne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    After just a few days, it's not going to be disgusting or dangerous to
    drink, but it's probably lost some quality. Cook with it, instead. Mussels
    with garlic & white wine, for instance. Or, any one of a million other
    dishes that use white wine. If it's got even a hint of a vinegar smell, toss
    it.

  3. Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    I almost never refrigerate bottles of opened wine.
    I store small to gallon bottles in the liquor cabinet.
    As long as they are used within 3 to 4 weeks and kept tightly capped,
    they seem to do fine......

    I prefer my wine at room temp., not chilled.

    Om

  4. Doug Kanter said:

    "Lovely EvilOne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    After just a few days, it's not going to be disgusting or dangerous to
    drink, but it's probably lost some quality. Cook with it, instead. Mussels
    with garlic & white wine, for instance. Or, any one of a million other
    dishes that use white wine. If it's got even a hint of a vinegar smell, toss
    it.

    Agree on all points. One thing I'd add: If a wine has developed a
    slight vinegar odor I use it in reduction sauces. Long reduction
    tends to fix this.

    --
    Reg

  5. Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    It should be okay. It is exposure to air and contaminants that make wine go
    bad, not temperature. A great wine might go downhill within a few days of
    opening, but most wine that comes in screw top bottles aren't great to begin
    with.

  6. Dave Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in
    there, that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to
    drink? It has a screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge
    delivered until Thursday. Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain
    chilled after its been opened?

    It should be okay. It is exposure to air and contaminants that make
    wine go bad, not temperature. A great wine might go downhill within a
    few days of opening, but most wine that comes in screw top bottles
    aren't great to begin with.

    Reminds me of the early 80's when my ex's sister in law moved in with us
    in L.A. She came with a 1952 Chateau Laffit Rothchild (?) bottle of red
    wine as one of her few prized possessions.

    Well, we kicked her back to Philly after a month of her binge drinking
    and she forgot the bottle.

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked that
    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd ever
    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I learned
    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside oxygen from
    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    All those years and it was a complete waste.

    Andy

  7. "Andy" <q> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked that
    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd ever
    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I learned
    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside oxygen from
    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.

    nancy

  8. Andy said:

    Reminds me of the early 80's when my ex's sister in law moved in with us
    in L.A. She came with a 1952 Chateau Laffit Rothchild (?) bottle of red
    wine as one of her few prized possessions.

    Well, we kicked her back to Philly after a month of her binge drinking
    and she forgot the bottle.

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked that
    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd ever
    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I learned
    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside oxygen from
    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    All those years and it was a complete waste.

    That's a damned shame. I have consumed enough wine over the years to learn a
    thing or two about it, but I still find it difficult to spend a lot of money
    on wine because I know I do not have a nose or palate that is trained to
    detect the nuances that make a wine great. I will leave that to people with
    more money than brains, like the guy at a wine auction a number of years ago
    who spent something like $30,000 on a bottle of wine and then dropped it on
    the steps on the way out and there went $30,000 worth of wine down the
    drain.... literally.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    It can, but there's no danger - it will just be vinegary. Taste and see.

    --
    Peter Aitken
    Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

  10. Nancy Young said:

    "Andy" <q> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked that
    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd ever
    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I learned
    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside oxygen from
    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.

    Maybe the rack was designed for port. Vintage ports have a lot of sediment, so
    they should need to be decanted, but they should not be kept on their sides
    because the higher alcohol content of port will destroy the cork.

  11. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    I almost never refrigerate bottles of opened wine.
    I store small to gallon bottles in the liquor cabinet.
    As long as they are used within 3 to 4 weeks and kept tightly capped,
    they seem to do fine......

    I prefer my wine at room temp., not chilled.

    Surely you must mean red wine. The thought of the kind of white that
    comes in gallon bottles at room temp brings back bad memories.

    Quoted message said:


    Om

    --Bryan

  12. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Nancy Young said:

    "Andy" <q> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We


    uncorked that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd


    ever

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I


    learned

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside


    oxygen from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.

    Maybe the rack was designed for port. Vintage ports have a lot of


    sediment, so

    Quoted message said:

    they should need to be decanted, but they should not be kept on their


    sides

    Quoted message said:

    because the higher alcohol content of port will destroy the cork.

    Not at all true. Ports like all other wines need to be stored on their
    sides
    so the cork remains moist. Refer to virtually any article on wine
    storage,
    http://www.cockburns-usa.com/about_port_storing.html
    is a good start.

    pavane

  13. Nancy Young said:


    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.


    Or the rack was right but the restaurant help put the bottles in wrong
    side up. ;-( -aem

  14. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    "Andy" <q> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked
    that puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd
    ever taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I
    learned to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside
    oxygen from seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.

    It's most likely that the restaurants had their racks [censored] about.
    If they turned them 'back to front' they'd be round the right way :-)

    But with the advent of Stelvin screw caps, there is no need to have the
    bottle tilted to keep the cork moist. Stelven sealed wine can be stored
    upright for their whole life.

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia

    At this spectacle even the most gentle must feel savage, and the most
    savage must weep.

    Turkish Officer
    400 Plateau
    24May1915

  15. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is ruined
    and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white wine in there,
    that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still ok to drink? It has a
    screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge delivered until Thursday.
    Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t remain chilled after its been
    opened?

    I almost never refrigerate bottles of opened wine.
    I store small to gallon bottles in the liquor cabinet.
    As long as they are used within 3 to 4 weeks and kept tightly capped,
    they seem to do fine......

    I prefer my wine at room temp., not chilled.

    I buy Carlo Rossi by the gallon bottle in cases of four.... I often
    have like 6-8 cases on hand in various flavors. I never refrigerate
    whether closed or opened... never yet had a bottle go off.... I just
    know some wise ass Thunderbird maven is gonna ask how can I tell if
    Carlo Rossi has gone off. FU!

    I don't care how much one pays for wine, but by the third glass it all
    tastes alike, and all wine pisses out exactly the same.... at least
    when I flush my terlit I'm consoled by the fact that I'm flushing away
    wine that cost me less than $10 a gallon. Carlo Rossi Pisano ain't bad
    for a dago red... I like it over ice with a wedge of lemon... suckin'
    some down right now. Hey, I deserve a good swig, finished mowing ten
    acres of grass and got my dozen blueberry bushes planted.

    Sheldon
    Sheldon

  16. "aem" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:


    Couple of restaurants I've frequented had wine racks that seemed
    to be designed to hold the bottles neck tilted up. Thought that
    was odd.


    Or the rack was right but the restaurant help put the bottles in wrong
    side up. ;-( -aem

    I thought that at first, but on further review (laugh), the thing
    (the one I'm thinking of now) was designed to have the neck
    in a narrow ... whatever ... you couldn't put the bottle in a
    different way.

    nancy

  17. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Lovely EvilOne said:

    A few days ago my refridgerator died. Naturally all my food is
    ruined and has to be tossed. I also had a large bottle of white
    wine in there, that had been opened. I`m wondering if it is still
    ok to drink? It has a screw type top. I`m not getting my new fridge
    delivered until Thursday. Does white wine spoil if it doesn`t
    remain chilled after its been opened?

    I almost never refrigerate bottles of opened wine.
    I store small to gallon bottles in the liquor cabinet.
    As long as they are used within 3 to 4 weeks and kept tightly capped,
    they seem to do fine......

    I prefer my wine at room temp., not chilled.

    I buy Carlo Rossi by the gallon bottle in cases of four.... I often
    have like 6-8 cases on hand in various flavors. I never refrigerate
    whether closed or opened... never yet had a bottle go off.... I just
    know some wise ass Thunderbird maven is gonna ask how can I tell if
    Carlo Rossi has gone off. FU!

    I don't care how much one pays for wine, but by the third glass it all
    tastes alike, and all wine pisses out exactly the same.... at least
    when I flush my terlit I'm consoled by the fact that I'm flushing away
    wine that cost me less than $10 a gallon. Carlo Rossi Pisano ain't
    bad for a dago red... I like it over ice with a wedge of lemon...
    suckin' some down right now. Hey, I deserve a good swig, finished
    mowing ten acres of grass and got my dozen blueberry bushes planted.

    Sheldon
    Sheldon

    When I lived in San Diego, my occasional houseguest (usually lived in his
    VW van), once a week Pete would give blood. He got $12. He'd come into
    the house with two gallon jugs of Carlo and Rossi sangrie and hand me one
    and a pack of marlboros. We'd walk the half blook to the beach and lay
    out and we'd smoke cigarettes and getting wasted drunk.

    Andy
    Who's slept on the beach more than once.

  18. "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I will leave that to people with
    more money than brains, like the guy at a wine auction a number of years
    ago
    who spent something like $30,000 on a bottle of wine and then dropped it
    on
    the steps on the way out and there went $30,000 worth of wine down the
    drain.... literally.

    While it is money wasted once the bottle broke, he most likely had no
    intention of ever drinking it. Like art, some winos just want to possess a
    certain wine. Same with the guy that have the wine cellars that hold 2000
    bottles. At five bottles a week, it world take 8 years to drink it all.
    But it only takes a couple of minutes to show it off to your friends.

  19. Edwin Pawlowski said:

    "Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I will leave that to people with
    more money than brains, like the guy at a wine auction a number of years
    ago
    who spent something like $30,000 on a bottle of wine and then dropped it
    on
    the steps on the way out and there went $30,000 worth of wine down the
    drain.... literally.

    While it is money wasted once the bottle broke, he most likely had no
    intention of ever drinking it. Like art, some winos just want to possess a
    certain wine.

    True enough, but he ended up possessing $30,000 worth of broken glass. And I
    confess that I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone who spends that much
    money on a bottle of wine.

    Quoted message said:

    Same with the guy that have the wine cellars that hold 2000
    bottles. At five bottles a week, it world take 8 years to drink it all.
    But it only takes a couple of minutes to show it off to your friends.

    I don't know anyone who has that many bottles of wine in their, thought I have
    a friend who may be getting close. He drinks them. He is good enough to share
    some of them with me.

  20. Andy said:

    Reminds me of the early 80's when my ex's sister in law moved in with us
    in L.A. She came with a 1952 Chateau Laffit Rothchild (?) bottle of red
    wine as one of her few prized possessions.

    Well, we kicked her back to Philly after a month of her binge drinking
    and she forgot the bottle.

    I convinced my ex to celebrate an occasion and open it. We uncorked that
    puppy and poured two glasses of quite possibly the best wine I'd ever
    taste but it had turned to vinegar and was awful. That's when I learned
    to store wine bottles cork-down on a slant to prevent outside oxygen from
    seeping through the cork and killing the vin.

    All those years and it was a complete waste.

    Andy

    That's sad. So you sent her back to Philly and cheese steaks. And cream
    cheese. And Spam?

    http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/Lafite+Rothschild/1952/-/USD/A/-/0

    That bottle is going from $120 to $900, depending on the seller, so
    that's quite a range. I wonder how many of those bottles might be
    vinegar too. Anybody know what happens when you spend $200 for a bottle
    of vinegar?

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