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  1. First off, the flight left from a terminal I'd never seen before,
    I gather it's an international terminal as there were special
    hallways directing people through customs. Before I knew
    that I found they have much better stores there! Nice.

    Wanted to grab a bite to eat, we were looking around, there
    was a Gallagher's Steak House. Supposed to be a good place
    in Manhattan, I have never been. In the window hung meat.
    Rib roasts. Aging. Now ... maybe it's me, but dried out old
    looking meat, it just didn't whet my appetite. More like, ew,
    don't go in there. Hanging right there next to the menu.

    That's okay, I'm here for a flight, not for a big meal. Split some
    kind of cheese steak and fries.

    Got there, it was late. Late for me if it was real time, probably
    7:30 or so. Late for me as in eating dinner. Of course in real
    time it was 10:30 at night. Better get used to it.

    Went to the Venetian. Looking for a good meal, but not like
    a $300 meal, you know how those casino restaurants can be.
    Dinner. First food place we hit, a food court. No, nancy hardly
    does food courts at all, I'm sure not grabbing something from a
    chain and eating it at some icky table. Nancy is a snob. Yes.

    So we asked at some information desk just past the food court,
    is there some place not super expensive, you know ... she looks
    as us ... and points back to the food court. That's not expensive.
    No, not what I had in mind. She pointed in the general direction
    one might find a sit down restaurant.

    Let's try here. Grand Lux Cafe. Huh ... looks pretty nice. Table
    for 2? Sure. Holy Crow! What a nice looking place! Even the
    ceilings were gorgeous. Nothing wrong with the Venetian, they even
    have a Guggenheim museum for pete's sake.

    Ron ordered the short ribs, I ordered Mongolian beef. Didn't really
    know what to expect. Italian waiter (as in from Italy) asked Ron how
    he wanted the ribs done. Uh. Well ... (thinking) they are slow roasted,
    aren't they already well done? Okay, I'll take them well done. Oh, the
    disappointed waiter said, they'll be crunchy and dry. I give up, you
    order them the best way.

    Turns out the guy thought he'd ordered something else, who knows what,
    so all was well.

    Wow, what a dinner. SO good. Couldn't believe it. The food, the
    service, the decor, it had the whole package. Had dessert, dulce la
    leche cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory (note: I think they might
    own the restaurant), after all we ate, we were just being piggy.

    That was just the first night. What's not to like?

    nancy

  2. On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:48:28 -0400, "Nancy Young"
    <[email hidden]> rummaged among random neurons and opined:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Went to the Venetian. Looking for a good meal, but not like
    a $300 meal, you know how those casino restaurants can be.
    Dinner. First food place we hit, a food court. No, nancy hardly
    does food courts at all, I'm sure not grabbing something from a
    chain and eating it at some icky table. Nancy is a snob. Yes.

    <snip>

    If you want a really, really, really good steak, hop over to the Hard
    Rock Casino and AJ's steak house. OMG, you'll swear you'd never really
    eaten a good steak before in your life.

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
    AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "Most vigitaryans I iver see looked enough like their food to be
    classed as cannybals."

    Finley Peter Dunne (1900)

    To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

  3. Nancy Young said:

    [snip]
    That was just the first night. What's not to like?


    Vegas is a hoot, and there's more to like now than ever. Far more
    variety of things to do than in the old days. There's even a
    developing Chinatown out a couple of miles on Spring Mountain Road,
    complete with a Ranch 99 market (major Asian market chain) and a Sam
    Woo's Barbecue. I haven't checked out the restaurants there, but the
    Chinese population has grown enough now that I expect that there are
    some good ones.

    I've been to the Gallaghers in the NYNY casino, with the hanging/aging
    beef that turned you off, and the steak I had was outstanding. That
    casino also has a branch of the Il Fornaio chain, which isn't bad for
    mainstream Italian.

    Do you any tips for playing craps? -aem

  4. aem said:

    [snip]

    Do you any tips for playing craps? -aem

    Sorry for the typo omission. Now that I look at it, it could be
    either, 'do you need any tips?' or 'do you have any tips?'.

    Did you know that the only bet in Vegas where you are paid the true
    odds is at craps? -aem

  5. "aem" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do you any tips for playing craps? -aem

    Sorry for the typo omission. Now that I look at it, it could be
    either, 'do you need any tips?' or 'do you have any tips?'.

    Heh, I didn't even notice.

    Quoted message said:


    Did you know that the only bet in Vegas where you are paid the true
    odds is at craps?

    That's interesting. I'm not a better (bettor?), it's not the money but
    that you *know* they're just ripping you off. Blatantly. I lost my
    share of money in the poker slots, at least I had fun, what card
    to keep, etc. Otherwise I can't believe people play the slots.
    Hey, if they have fun, not for me to say.

    Blackjack looks like something I'd like. Never once considered
    craps, I don't even know how to play. Maybe I should have.

    nancy

  6. "aem" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1146161745.087716.238780
    @t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:


    aem said:

    [snip]

    Do you any tips for playing craps? -aem

    Sorry for the typo omission. Now that I look at it, it could be
    either, 'do you need any tips?' or 'do you have any tips?'.

    Did you know that the only bet in Vegas where you are paid the true
    odds is at craps? -aem

    Never bet on the come-out roll and no field bets. Just the Place bets.
    Take down winnings after every pay! Never let it ride!!! Dice have no
    memory.

    Wear earplugs (helps cut down the noise distractions) to concentrate.

    Don't gamble drunk. You'll bet stupid and not care.

    And remember, you can't win 'em all, most of the time.

    Imho,

    Andy
    $1.00 chance on Powerball >$100 Million. (Down $100.00+) Proving you
    don't have to be drunk to be stupid.

  7. aem said:

    Did you know that the only bet in Vegas where you are paid the true
    odds is at craps? -aem

    Not quite. Casinos wouldn't be offering ti if they didn't make
    any money at it. Mnay people don't play the free odds, which the
    casinos like, but you had to place a regular bet to get into that
    position in the first place.

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    -sw

  8. Nancy Young wrote:
    Wow, what a dinner. SO good. Couldn't believe it. The food, the
    service, the decor, it had the whole package. Had dessert, dulce la
    leche cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory (note: I think they might
    own the restaurant), after all we ate, we were just being piggy.

    That was just the first night. What's not to like?

    nancy

    nancy, I love the Venetian and the Grand Lux Cafe is a good mid priced
    restaurant. We ate there a couple of times, but the most wonderful meal
    was in The Bellagio, a place caled " Sensi " Beautiful place, with
    different kinds of Granite, an open kitchen , water etc. But the really
    wonderful part was the steak we had there.l It was the besst I have
    ever eaten, I could not eat the whole thing and I almost cried, the
    service was excellent, and the soups and sides were all wonderful.. My
    fvavorite place, and in Las Vegas there are so many great places.
    Rosie

  9. Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    In Amsterdam, Holland, at the Holland Casino in Leidesplein, they use
    never-ending automatic shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible, but
    they asked me if I knew how to count cards for some reason (maybe because
    I've beat the casino every time)!?!?

    Andy

  10. Andy said:

    Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    In Amsterdam, Holland, at the Holland Casino in Leidesplein, they use
    never-ending automatic shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible

    I'm surprised more casino's don't do that rather than trying to
    detect and eject the counters. I guess it's a PR thing.

    -sw

  11. rosie said:

    in The Bellagio, a place caled " Sensi "

    Where in the Bellagio? Did it replace Prime? Or Olives?

    --Blair

  12. "rosie" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Nancy Young wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    Wow, what a dinner. SO good. Couldn't believe it. The food, the
    service, the decor, it had the whole package. Had dessert, dulce la
    leche cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory (note: I think they might
    own the restaurant), after all we ate, we were just being piggy.

    That was just the first night. What's not to like?

    Quoted message said:

    nancy, I love the Venetian and the Grand Lux Cafe is a good mid priced
    restaurant.

    Oh, I'm so happy to hear from someone who's been there.
    Actually, we took some people there a few nights later, sort
    of a family thing. Everyone raved about their food, so I'm happy
    we went there. Hey, when you're taking people you don't want
    to take a chance on a place you don't know.

    For one thing, we ordered this appetizer, it was a whole
    bunch of different things, it was excellent. Came on 4 dishes
    that they lined up in the middle. Nice presentation.

    Quoted message said:

    We ate there a couple of times, but the most wonderful meal
    was in The Bellagio, a place caled " Sensi " Beautiful place, with
    different kinds of Granite, an open kitchen , water etc. But the really
    wonderful part was the steak we had there.l It was the besst I have
    ever eaten, I could not eat the whole thing and I almost cried, the
    service was excellent, and the soups and sides were all wonderful.. My
    fvavorite place, and in Las Vegas there are so many great places.

    If I'd known I would have gone there, and to the Hard Rock as
    Terry said. I did have one meal in LV that wasn't worth it, I sure
    would prefer to have gone somewhere good. When my salad arrived,
    I'd ordered caesar salad, Ron instantly said, that's an unusual
    interpretation. He doesn't go around saying stuff like that. (laugh)
    I knew it was not going to be a good night. Don't interpret my food.

    Four romaine leaves, whole, lined up across the plate, with an
    anchovy filet draped just so over them. A fried flat thing about
    the size of a softball stood in for the crouton. Fine.

    I got a chicken dish. Pieces of chicken sauteed, placed around
    a mound some something purple and mashed. I would say potato,
    but I can't say it tasted like a potato or was good. It oozed all
    over everything. The other vegetables, don't especially know what
    they were, either, not happy about that.

    Anyway, that was my one strike out on the whole trip.

    nancy

  13. Nancy Young said:

    [snip] .... I did have one meal in LV that wasn't worth it, I sure
    would prefer to have gone somewhere good. When my salad arrived,
    I'd ordered caesar salad, Ron instantly said, that's an unusual
    interpretation. He doesn't go around saying stuff like that. (laugh)
    I knew it was not going to be a good night. Don't interpret my food.
    [ snip ]

    Where was this, so I know where to avoid? -aem

  14. Nancy Young said:

    Four romaine leaves, whole, lined up across the plate, with an
    anchovy filet draped just so over them. A fried flat thing about
    the size of a softball stood in for the crouton. Fine.

    That's a fairly common (relative term) presentation. I assume it
    had some dressing drizzled over the center or ends of each leaf?

    -sw

  15. Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Andy said:

    Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    In Amsterdam, Holland, at the Holland Casino in Leidesplein, they use
    never-ending automatic shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible

    I'm surprised more casino's don't do that rather than trying to
    detect and eject the counters. I guess it's a PR thing.

    -sw

    Steve,

    Not only is it smart, it's a time-saver. There's never a dull moment
    while the dealer shuffles 8 decks of cards while you sit and wait. Plus
    there's less eye-in-the-sky security required. Holland is described as a
    "highly evolved democracy". We, in the US are backwards to a point in
    that regard.

    Imho,

    Andy

  16. "aem" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    [snip] .... I did have one meal in LV that wasn't worth it, I sure
    would prefer to have gone somewhere good. When my salad arrived,
    I'd ordered caesar salad, Ron instantly said, that's an unusual
    interpretation. He doesn't go around saying stuff like that. (laugh)
    I knew it was not going to be a good night. Don't interpret my food.
    [ snip ]

    Where was this, so I know where to avoid? -aem

    I can't think of the name, it was an Italian restaurant on the casino
    floor of Treasure Island.

    nancy

  17. "Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    Four romaine leaves, whole, lined up across the plate, with an
    anchovy filet draped just so over them. A fried flat thing about
    the size of a softball stood in for the crouton. Fine.

    That's a fairly common (relative term) presentation. I assume it
    had some dressing drizzled over the center or ends of each leaf?

    It's a presentation I hadn't seen before and hope not to again.
    It didn't quell my salad craving. Just me. I will give them this,
    and this is a very good thing, each leaf was beautifully and
    evenly dressed.

    nancy

  18. Blair P. Houghton said:
    rosie said:

    in The Bellagio, a place caled " Sensi "

    Where in the Bellagio? Did it replace Prime? Or Olives?

    --http://www.gayot.com/restaurants/restaurantissue/risingchefs/2005/martinheierling.htmlon

    I think it is one the main entry floor, it did not replace Prime, but
    it is the newest rest., in the Bellagio. It is very simply the best.

    Quoted message said:

    From the understated decor, the excellent service to the lat ny not


    least supurb food, it is the best Test I have eatedn in , in the USA.

    Go, take a look.
    Rosie

  19. Steve Wertz said:
    Andy said:

    Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    In Amsterdam, Holland, at the Holland Casino in Leidesplein, they use
    never-ending automatic shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible

    I'm surprised more casino's don't do that rather than trying to
    detect and eject the counters. I guess it's a PR thing.


    Or maybe just availability and getting customers/players accustomed to
    it. I saw those machines in use at all the major casinos I visited on
    my last trip. Typically a busy room will have a table or two single or
    double deck, some tables with a shoe and manual shuffling, some with a
    shoe and a mechanical shuffler, and some with the continuous automatic
    shuffler. -aem

  20. "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Steve Wertz <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Blackjack is the only game where you can gain an edge over the
    house, by card counting.

    In Amsterdam, Holland, at the Holland Casino in Leidesplein, they use
    never-ending automatic shuffling machines. Card counting is impossible,
    but
    they asked me if I knew how to count cards for some reason

    (maybe because

    Quoted message said:

    I've beat the casino every time)!?!?

    Andy

    Andy, do you expect anyone to believe this? Ha ahahahaha.
    Dee Dee

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