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South Pole diet

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  1. Reading about Amundsen's expedition, I've found out that the daily
    rations were:
    Men:

    * Biscuits (40 biscuits): 380 g (13.4 ounces)
    * Men's pemmican: 350 g (12.34 ounces)
    * Chocolate: 40 g (1.4 ounces)
    * Milk powder: 60 g (2.1 ounces)

    Dogs:

    * Dogs' pemmican: 500 g (1.1 pounds)

    They were on this diet for 99 days, while driving sledges through 1860
    miles.

    I wonder, how adecuate was this diet? Approximately, how many calories
    did they ingest daily? I cannont find info on the kind of biscuits and
    pemmican they ate, but I think that there are ways of guesstimate,
    aren't they?
    Also, the men did not get scurvy; where was the C vitamin, maybe in the
    pemmican?

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    Javi

  2. If they boiled an animal down to make pemmican and it was a healthy
    animal this is probably decent food, but the powdered milk would be too
    rich in oxidized cholesterol, and the chocolate may have been made with
    it too. No way to know what was in the biscuit, aside from some sort
    of flour and probably a lot of sugar. Remember that if they were
    healthy to begin with, the body can deal with a lousy diet for a while,
    but it's not necessarily something you want to do for many years.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Remember that if they were
    healthy to begin with, the body can deal with a lousy diet for a while,
    but it's not necessarily something you want to do for many years.

    Yeah! Monty is speaking from experience.

    Monty started out sick. And, has followed a Pacific Coconut Oil
    vegetable free diet for many years. Now, he is just mentally
    deficient.

    You have my condolences, Monty.

  4. Quoted message said:

    If they boiled an animal down to make pemmican and it was a healthy
    animal this is probably decent food,

    Pemmican is basically buffalo or beef jerky (smoked and/or dried meat)
    pounded to a pulp and mixed with loads of added fat and some dried and
    pounded berries. All dependent on availability and season. No boiling
    involved.

    This mixture, pretty much by itself, helped open up the entire Canadian
    Central, North and West regions by nourishing the Coureurs de Bois, the
    frenchmen who paddled large 10 or 12 person canoes up and down every
    river in central and western Canada to trade for furs. No scurvy was
    ever reported by these people who were on the road for much of the year
    when the rivers were not frozen.

    TC

  5. I know that some early settlers boiled down an entire animal and cut
    the pieces up as a sort of "energy bar," but I don't remember the name
    they called this. I though it was what some called pemmican. The good
    thing about boiling the animal down is that the amino acid profile is
    not skewered, as it is for those who only eat muscle meats - you also
    don't oxidize the cholesterol and unsaturated fatty acids.

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