Re: High iron levels were found / chronic daily headache

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question for iron justice:

If a patient is suffering from "iron deficiency anemia"--do you believe

the doctor should or should not prescribe a medication that contains
iron? <<

Contrary to popular belief there is NO .. 'iron' .. deficiency in the
world.

The body stores seven months worth of iron and this iron is NEVER
depleted.

The only time this iron is depleted is if one is bleeding internally.

This bleeding internally will be recognized by blood coming out of an
orifice.

The body CANNOT .. 'deplete' the iron stores .. gradually.

The body treats iron as if it were gold. The body would simply not
absorb it if it doesn't NEED iron.

Soooo .. depleting the iron STORES is .. impossible.

Any 'anemia' you may run into is DEFINITELY .. not .. iron ..
deficiency.

Low iron diet / iron restricted diet / vegetablefruitdairy .. diet is
now being recommended for malaria , tuberculosis and hookworm infection
because the above diet .. no blood diet .. leads to control .. of the
above.

The latest study has the researcher stating the REASON the tuberculosis
can .. run / proliferate in the host is DUE TO .. the BUILDUP of ..
iron.

NOW the pathogen .. in this case .. tuberculosis .. can NOW .. with
increased iron levels .. ACCESS this .. iron and NOW .. kill you.

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Do a google search or read a medical book and you will find this term:
iron deficiency anemia
Please do the search if you disagree with me.
Believe it or not, some people that have various types of kidney
problems need to take medications that contain iron since they
develop iron deficiency anemia.

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Ok.. since iron gets depleted only when there is bleeding or in cases
of iron restricted diet which is true.. so this will definately lead to
iron deficiency anemia..

and here i would like to point out that iron supplements are being
given as prophylaxis together with folic acid in cases of pregnancy
especially in women who are at additional risk of iron deficiency such
as poor diet. Prophylaxis is also used in cases of menorrhagia, after
partial gastrectomy and in some low birth weight infants, such as
premature twins.

In regards of giving iron to patients with kidney disease.. i'll be
replying on it later.. since its getting late here and i have to go to
bed..

hope that the above was useful..

good night,
Dalia Murad

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Dalia said:

Ok.. since iron gets depleted only when there is bleeding or in cases
of iron restricted diet which is true.. so this will definately lead to
iron deficiency anemia..

and here i would like to point out that iron supplements are being
given as prophylaxis together with folic acid in cases of pregnancy
especially in women who are at additional risk of iron deficiency such
as poor diet. Prophylaxis is also used in cases of menorrhagia, after
partial gastrectomy and in some low birth weight infants, such as
premature twins.

In regards of giving iron to patients with kidney disease.. i'll be
replying on it later.. since its getting late here and i have to go to
bed..

hope that the above was useful..

good night,
Dalia Murad

Dalia,
I was referring to some types of kidney disease. According to Dr. Walser
(a kidney specialist), "iron deficiency is seen in about a third of
predialysis patients whether anemia is present or not..." pg. 110 of his
book.
I am sure that doctors check the level of iron in the blood prior to
prescribing tablets of ferrous sulfate.
Jason

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Quoted message said:

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Do a google search or read a medical book and you will find this term:

iron deficiency anemia
Please do the search if you disagree with me.
Believe it or not, some people that have various types of kidney
problems need to take medications that contain iron since they
develop iron deficiency anemia<<

It seems you are / were .. very .. sure about anemia .. iron deficient
anemia .. BEFORE .. you asked this question ..

So .. why .. DID you ask this question .. ?

To get your .. opinion .. in .. ?

You seem to .. agree .. with the rest of the .. folks as to .. iron
deficiency ..

So .. according to YOUR .. 'opinion' .. you TOO would have given iron
to the people with malaria .. which killed / kills .. them ..

So .. me .. deaths .. zilch .. YOU .. death .. millions ..

Of course .. YOU .. with your millions of deaths to your .. credit ..
SHOULD be listened .. to ..

Eh ..

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ok.. since iron gets depleted only when there is bleeding or in cases

of iron restricted diet which is true.. so this will definately lead to

iron deficiency anemia..<<

The KEY .. word here is .. depleted ..
The iron STORES are .. never .. 'depleted' .. naturally ..

The body upregulates the absorption of iron WHEN NEED BE .. and the
seven months worth of iron is NEVER .. depleted ..

UNLESS you have internal .. bleeding .. and at a high rate ..

Contrary to what the medical profession would have you believe people
... women SPECIFICALLY .. do NOT .. 'bleed to death' ..

They are and do upregulate iron when need be and the seven months worth
of iron is NEVER .. depleted.

The little kid in Africa who is starving to death is NOT .. iron
deficient ..

He STILL has the iron his mom give him.

It is recycled ..

If his iron stores are depleted .. he is dead .. simply BECAUSE he has
seven months worth of iron in his body and to deplete this iron he must
starve for seven months OR have high bleeding or . a combination of the
above but he is NEVER depleted.

Any 'anemia' to be seen is either nutritional .. lack of antioxidants
... or .. iron withholding mechanism / anemia of chronic disease in
which the body withholds iron from an invader in order to starve and
kill it.

There is no iron 'deficiency' in our .. world.

EVIDENCED by .. millions of deaths by malaria attributed to iron
supplementation in those considered to be .. iron deficient.

Evidence based medicine in which MILLIONS .. die ..

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Tom

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ok.. since iron gets depleted only when there is bleeding or in cases

of iron restricted diet which is true.. so this will definately lead to

iron deficiency anemia..<<

The KEY .. word here is .. depleted ..
The iron STORES are .. never .. 'depleted' .. naturally ..

The body upregulates the absorption of iron WHEN NEED BE .. and the
seven months worth of iron is NEVER .. depleted ..

UNLESS you have internal .. bleeding .. and at a high rate ..

Contrary to what the medical profession would have you believe people
.. women SPECIFICALLY .. do NOT .. 'bleed to death' ..

They are and do upregulate iron when need be and the seven months worth
of iron is NEVER .. depleted.

The little kid in Africa who is starving to death is NOT .. iron
deficient ..

He STILL has the iron his mom give him.

It is recycled ..

If his iron stores are depleted .. he is dead .. simply BECAUSE he has
seven months worth of iron in his body and to deplete this iron he must
starve for seven months OR have high bleeding or . a combination of the
above but he is NEVER depleted.

Any 'anemia' to be seen is either nutritional .. lack of antioxidants
.. or .. iron withholding mechanism / anemia of chronic disease in
which the body withholds iron from an invader in order to starve and
kill it.

There is no iron 'deficiency' in our .. world.

EVIDENCED by .. millions of deaths by malaria attributed to iron
supplementation in those considered to be .. iron deficient.

Evidence based medicine in which MILLIONS .. die ..

Who loves ya.
Tom

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ironjustice,
I suggest that you do a google search for iron deficiency anemia. All
doctors know about this disorder. People that have some types of kidney
disease have to take tablets of ferrous sulfate (iron) to treat this
disorder.
Jason

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