Just had a text off Phil Cook. He and Martin Richardson have just reached the summit of Ben More on Mull. Congrats to Martin for completing the Munro tick list.
However, as he didn't actually stand atop those boulders that sit on the summit of the Inn Pin, can he really claim to have completed the Munro round?? I'm not trying to stir up trouble, merely invite debate!
In message <[email hidden]>, Judith <[email hidden]> writes
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I count the ones where I wave to someone at the top (while I'm about half way down).
Judith
I've counted ones where I've used the ski lift for most of the ascent. I reckon it balances out the ones where I've spent hours slogging up scree and loose stone and sliding back one step for every two I walk.
Current Munro total incidentally is probably in low double figures (I don't keep a record as such). Chances of finishing them all in this lifetime - as close to zero as makes no difference.
However, as he didn't actually stand atop those boulders that sit on the summit of the Inn Pin, can he really claim to have completed the Munro round?? I'm not trying to stir up trouble, merely invite debate!
You rotten borough! Didn't he go back and do it again just for fun?
In message <[email hidden]>, Graham Seed <[email hidden]> writes
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"Ian Dainty" <[email hidden]> wrote
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However, as he didn't actually stand atop those boulders that sit on the summit of the Inn Pin, can he really claim to have completed the Munro round?? I'm not trying to stir up trouble, merely invite debate!
You rotten borough! Didn't he go back and do it again just for fun?
Graham
Yes - I have been up the In Pin twice and I think as long as your head is above the summit you have done it - so there, Mr Dainty. -- Martin Richardson 520/1554 Marilyns - 67% to go 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
Yes - I have been up the In Pin twice and I think as long as your head is above the summit you have done it - so there, Mr Dainty.
Oh, I've climbed Snowdon, so does that mean I've bagged all the summits in Wales?
In fact, I've been up in an aeroplane too, so can I claim Everest as well?
IMO there's not much point having your head above the summit if you're at different x,y coordinates, but I suppose if you're close enough it might count. Am not familiar with the situation you're talking about so I can't comment on that, but I certainly wouldn't claim Corn Du on the basis of standing on top of Pen y Fan.
Yes - I have been up the In Pin twice and I think as long as your head is above the summit you have done it - so there, Mr Dainty.
Oh, I've climbed Snowdon, so does that mean I've bagged all the summits in Wales?
In fact, I've been up in an aeroplane too, so can I claim Everest as well?
IMO there's not much point having your head above the summit if you're at different x,y coordinates, but I suppose if you're close enough it might count. Am not familiar with the situation you're talking about so I can't comment on that, but I certainly wouldn't claim Corn Du on the basis of standing on top of Pen y Fan.
Sometimes Paul, I wish you would "do a Saunders" again. :-\
Here, have a smiley >:-) -- Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> writes
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Martin Richardson said:
Yes - I have been up the In Pin twice and I think as long as your head is above the summit you have done it - so there, Mr Dainty.
Oh, I've climbed Snowdon, so does that mean I've bagged all the summits in Wales?
In fact, I've been up in an aeroplane too, so can I claim Everest as well?
IMO there's not much point having your head above the summit if you're at different x,y coordinates, but I suppose if you're close enough it might count. Am not familiar with the situation you're talking about so I can't comment on that, but I certainly wouldn't claim Corn Du on the basis of standing on top of Pen y Fan.
I believe SOTA have a rule of 25 metres from the top - which is too far away for my round my rules as Richard said. On very pointy tops, iIf I can touch the top with my hand and my head is above the summit, that'll do me - and I suspect most others. On flat (or tussocky) tops where it is difficult to be sure exactly where the top is I am satisfied by criss-crossing a couple of times that I have done it. After all, in most cases, the accomplishment is gaining the other 2999+ feet.
-- Martin Richardson 520/1554 Marilyns - 67% to go 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go 61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go
I believe SOTA have a rule of 25 metres from the top - which is too far away for my round my rules as Richard said. On very pointy tops, iIf I can touch the top with my hand and my head is above the summit, that'll do me - and I suspect most others. On flat (or tussocky) tops where it is difficult to be sure exactly where the top is I am satisfied by criss-crossing a couple of times that I have done it. After all, in most cases, the accomplishment is gaining the other 2999+ feet.
I agree. In the past I often had a sense of "being on the top" even if I wasn't standing on the exact high point - there's a certain "zone" that "feels" like "the top", which varies depending on shape.
I think that tick lists and grid refs, and especially GPS has tended to make baggers somewhat obsessive about where the exact top actually is, but as you say, most of the accomplishment is in getting to the top, so what difference does a few metres here or there make? If you feel that you've reached "the top" then that's probably good enough.
Anyway, congrats again. Is there any list you haven't completed yet?