Toeses

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

When my toeses hurt it's because I've been walking down hill in boots that
are too small. Could you do with a half or full size bigger?

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Mark Thompson
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

When my toeses hurt it's because I've been walking down hill in boots that
are too small. Could you do with a half or full size bigger?

Or too loosely tied .. your toes should not be able to reach the end of
the boot, no matter what you do with your feet. If they can/do reach the
end of the toebox you are asking to lose a nail, or break a toe, or
whatever.

Also pays to check your toenails are cut (the odd 1/8th of an inch can
make a big difference if you're near the limit).

Or it may be that there just isn't room in the boot for the extra
footbeds, if the OP meant 'extra' ones..

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Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

Are your boots too small? Just half a size too small and your toes
will hurt on a steep descent.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

When my toeses hurt it's because I've been walking down hill in boots that
are too small. Could you do with a half or full size bigger?

No, because the boots are actually rather a good fit. I have an idea
it's the feet that are the problem, but what to do about it...?

My main problem is that I've been doing a fair bit of field archery in
the last year and a bit, and a lot of that involves standing for a while
in uncomfortable positions with the toes downmost, trying to keep
balance whilst shooting; also walking up and down unfeasibly steep (but
mercifully short) slopes between one target and the next. After a few
hours of that (typically 5 hours at a time on two successive days) my
poor ickle toeses feel very bruised. They're not bruised; they just
feel it.
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Fran <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

Console yourself that you are in the company of giants like Beckham and
Rooney (Wayne), whose metal tarsals have also suffered.

Do you keep your toenails short?
Can you REACH your toenails?

<D & R>

PS: Of course if footballers wore football boots instead of today's
ballet shoes they wouldn't break their toses every time they kicked
grass.
--
Gordon Harris

Fran said:

pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

When my toeses hurt it's because I've been walking down hill in boots that
are too small. Could you do with a half or full size bigger?

No, because the boots are actually rather a good fit. I have an idea
it's the feet that are the problem, but what to do about it...?

My main problem is that I've been doing a fair bit of field archery in
the last year and a bit, and a lot of that involves standing for a while
in uncomfortable positions with the toes downmost, trying to keep
balance whilst shooting; also walking up and down unfeasibly steep (but
mercifully short) slopes between one target and the next. After a few
hours of that (typically 5 hours at a time on two successive days) my
poor ickle toeses feel very bruised. They're not bruised; they just
feel it.

It sounds even more like your boots are too small.

In article <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

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No, because the boots are actually rather a good fit. I have an idea
it's the feet that are the problem, but what to do about it...?

Sorry to hear of your problem Fran - you did have problem toes didn't
you? Is it the site of the op that is causing problems?

Descending can be a b****r especially when the toes hit the front of the
boots.

Can't offer much but sympathy.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon
<[email hidden]> writes

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Do you keep your toenails short?
Can you REACH your toenails?

<D & R>

Careful Gordon - she's got one hell of a left, and the right is
something to behold as well....

.........wait for meeee.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too.

I expect they felt a lot better after a good soak in the footspa in the
Travellodge, eh! ;^}

Assuming it's not that your boots are simply too small. Before you do
the laces up you should make sure that your heel is _hard_ against the
back of the boot - then do the laces up. Then, as your foot tends to
slide forwards when going downhill the arch of your foot will come in
contact with the laced portion of the boot, rather than your toes
hitting the toe.

Jim Ford

Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

I was going to say "now it's summer..." but looking at the cold,
grey, driech outside...

But anyway, if it does get nicer, don't wear solid boots becasue
then they can't bruise your toes. If you must wear them, tighten
the laces before descents to stop you sliding forward so far.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

W. D. Grey said:

Careful Gordon - she's got one hell of a left, and the right is
something to behold as well....

........wait for meeee.

It's no good running - she's got a bow and arrows!

Jim Ford

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Quoted message said:

Fran <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

Console yourself that you are in the company of giants like Beckham and
Rooney (Wayne), whose metal tarsals have also suffered.

Do you keep your toenails short?

Where possible, yes.

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Can you REACH your toenails?

<D & R>

No need to run - I'd never catch you. My days of long distance running
are long gone :-( The answer is that I can reach most of my toenails
with difficulty and I have a husband who's handy with the nail scissors.

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Fran
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

No, because the boots are actually rather a good fit. I have an idea
it's the feet that are the problem, but what to do about it...?

Sorry to hear of your problem Fran - you did have problem toes didn't
you? Is it the site of the op that is causing problems?

No, it was the fourth and fifth toes that were straightened, and they're
fine and dandy. Most of the pain now is in the tip of the big toes,
especially on steep downhills. I suppose I could just wear incredibly
thick socks, but in hot weather that wouldn't be very comfortable
either.

Quoted message said:

Descending can be a b****r especially when the toes hit the front of the
boots.

Can't it just. Rather than the boots being too small (they're not) it's
more likely that my rather low instep (almost flat) and flat bones (i.e.
not arched) are resulting in there being too much room for my feet to
move forward in. At the weekend I was feeling like a gel pad for the
front of the toe box would be a luxury.

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Can't offer much but sympathy.

I'll accept it though, because after two days of shooting I was feeling
very sorry for myself indeed :-(

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Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too.

I expect they felt a lot better after a good soak in the footspa in the
Travellodge, eh! ;^}

Oh ha ha-di ha. I was camping. In a tent. All weekend. And anyway,
uk.rec.camping is over that way ---->

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Assuming it's not that your boots are simply too small. Before you do
the laces up you should make sure that your heel is _hard_ against the
back of the boot - then do the laces up. Then, as your foot tends to
slide forwards when going downhill the arch of your foot will come in
contact with the laced portion of the boot, rather than your toes
hitting the toe.

I'll try that Jim. Assuming an almost flat foot can work like that it's
worth a go. Thanks.

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Quoted message said:

Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

I was going to say "now it's summer..." but looking at the cold,
grey, driech outside...

Fabulous over the weekend though, wasn't it! I managed to catch the sun
on my face even though I spent most of the weekend in a decidous wood.

Quoted message said:

But anyway, if it does get nicer, don't wear solid boots becasue
then they can't bruise your toes. If you must wear them, tighten
the laces before descents to stop you sliding forward so far.

Thanks - another method to try.

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Fran said:

Over the weekend I was walking up and down lots of slopes, and my poor
toeses felt extremely hard done by. By the end of the day I felt almost
as if I'd been on pointes all day - and darned painful it was too. I've
already got footbeds in my boots; however I find now that I need some
sort of protection in the toebox for my poor aching tootsies. Any
relatively cheap suggestions? Boots are Meindl, and on the flat they're
as comfy as a very comfy thing.

I'd echo what Pete and Jim said: if the toes of a normal foot are
hitting the end of the boot then (a) kick your heel back into the
boot before tying them, and (b) tighter laces will stop some slippage.

But you hinted that maybe that's not it. So how about the simple
option of jamming a block of foam in the toe end before you go
downhill?

Colin

On Tue, 2 May 2006 18:56:25 +0100, Fran wrote...

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pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said...

Quoted message said:

When my toeses hurt it's because I've been walking down hill in boots that
are too small. Could you do with a half or full size bigger?

No, because the boots are actually rather a good fit. I have an idea
it's the feet that are the problem, but what to do about it...?

Get a smaller pair of feet? :-)

Seriously, I'd go with the suggestion made by others, tying the laces
tighter and kicking your heels into the back of the boot before doing
so. On my Meindls this can make a significant difference, and they are
still comfortable. Also try retightening them after you've had them on
a little while, especially just before going down a steep slope.

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Colin MacDonald said:

But you hinted that maybe that's not it. So how about the simple option
of jamming a block of foam in the toe end before you go downhill?

I can't see that as being any fun at all. Unless the toes are
stationary then there would probably be lots of rubbing and accordingly
more than a few blisters.

The idea of a toe box is plenty of room so you don't hit the sides and
end. Toes don't do rubbing well IME, even against foam. That's just a
guess, admittedly, but if it was that easy then lots of people would do
it already...

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Fran said:

Quoted message said:

But anyway, if it does get nicer, don't wear solid boots becasue
then they can't bruise your toes. If you must wear them, tighten
the laces before descents to stop you sliding forward so far.

Thanks - another method to try.

I've also found that with a good footbed in the shoe/boot I slide less, I
suppose you sort of are stopped by the arch support.
And I have seen socks with an anti-slip pattern on the soles, but I can't
remember where... sort of thin rubber shapes.

Roos